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Simon Mignolet

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The defending on that corner was abysmal but yes it was another big error. But what do we expect? We've known for years he's not good enough. And whats the point of putting Karius in? He's been equally appalling. The GK situation is one big cluster fuck.
 
If every there was a player who represented the saying, form is temporary, class is permanent, it would be Ming
 
What we have here on SCM, is where the post content fits inline to actually describe the Poster himself... 😱

Only messing @binomial

*actually I'm not*
 
There's no fixing the keepers, we are where we are. We've got to hope somehow the defence can save their asses and stop them facing and shots for the rest of the season.
I've never seen anything like it, I think we've conceded the opponents first shot for the last 4 or 5 games or have I imagined that?
 
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Karius isnt worse then Ming. Karius had a poor spell for about 3 weeks but has been pretty good after that.
Ming has been shite for years.
Sell him and buy a new keeper.
 
No but i don't see what that's got to do with anything?

Sakho was sacked off because of his behaviour, allegedly. If you have disruptive insubordinate influences in the team they simply have to go, for glaringly obvious reasons. With players going through bad form or who can be worked with, it's totally different. Yes, there needs to be a degree of ruthlessness, but it's not the same.
 
Karius isnt worse then Ming. Karius had a poor spell for about 3 weeks but has been pretty good after that.
Ming has been shite for years.
Sell him and buy a new keeper.

Karius is a non-entity, we don't know whether he's better or worse and can only really go off the evidence thus far. It's irrelevant what he did in Germany because it's a different league and team, so there's no way you can categorically say he isn't worse. When he has played he's been poor more than he's been good, he wasn't that great against Southampton, but had a couple of games previous to that in the cups where he was ok, before that when he was in the first team he was indecisive, sloppy and he cost us points. A few games in the cups, largely against minor opposition with minimal work to do, ultimately proves nothing.

This is Klopp's team now, he bought in two centre backs and converted Milner to a left back, he brought in his own keeper who has been a disaster, so much so that the main area of concern is still there, because we've reverted back to using the player was the problem in the first place. He's ultimately brought in or converted 4 or 5 players out of the back line that's played fairly regularly this season (Karius, Matip, Klavan, and then Milner and Lucas who have been converted to defenders). And we still continue to look vulnerable whenever a team gets in our half or has a corner/freekick.

That's completely on Klopp, we can't defend and don't deserve to have a huge amount of progress this season, because teams that can't defend and fail to do so in such an amateur fashion, don't deserve to win stuff.

It starts with the keeper, I don't think he was particularly well protected for the goal, but that's where you earn you crust, as the last line of defence he should have just punched it and if that meant taking out their player in the process, then so be it, it's as much about dominance in this league, playing in key defensive areas, and we have too many soft touches in these key roles, we have no one who stamps their authority on matches and defines the teams hunger.
 
Karius is a non-entity, we don't know whether he's better or worse and can only really go off the evidence thus far. It's irrelevant what he did in Germany because it's a different league and team, so there's no way you can categorically say he isn't worse. When he has played he's been poor more than he's been good, he wasn't that great against Southampton, but had a couple of games previous to that in the cups where he was ok, before that when he was in the first team he was indecisive, sloppy and he cost us points. A few games in the cups, largely against minor opposition with minimal work to do, ultimately proves nothing.

This is Klopp's team now, he bought in two centre backs and converted Milner to a left back, he brought in his own keeper who has been a disaster, so much so that the main area of concern is still there, because we've reverted back to using the player was the problem in the first place. He's ultimately brought in or converted 4 or 5 players out of the back line that's played fairly regularly this season (Karius, Matip, Klavan, and then Milner and Lucas who have been converted to defenders). And we still continue to look vulnerable whenever a team gets in our half or has a corner/freekick.

That's completely on Klopp, we can't defend and don't deserve to have a huge amount of progress this season, because teams that can't defend and fail to do so in such an amateur fashion, don't deserve to win stuff.

It starts with the keeper, I don't think he was particularly well protected for the goal, but that's where you earn you crust, as the last line of defence he should have just punched it and if that meant taking out their player in the process, then so be it, it's as much about dominance in this league, playing in key defensive areas, and we have too many soft touches in these key roles, we have no one who stamps their authority on matches and defines the teams hunger.

Cracking post
 
Karius is a non-entity, we don't know whether he's better or worse and can only really go off the evidence thus far. It's irrelevant what he did in Germany because it's a different league and team, so there's no way you can categorically say he isn't worse. When he has played he's been poor more than he's been good, he wasn't that great against Southampton, but had a couple of games previous to that in the cups where he was ok, before that when he was in the first team he was indecisive, sloppy and he cost us points. A few games in the cups, largely against minor opposition with minimal work to do, ultimately proves nothing.

This is Klopp's team now, he bought in two centre backs and converted Milner to a left back, he brought in his own keeper who has been a disaster, so much so that the main area of concern is still there, because we've reverted back to using the player was the problem in the first place. He's ultimately brought in or converted 4 or 5 players out of the back line that's played fairly regularly this season (Karius, Matip, Klavan, and then Milner and Lucas who have been converted to defenders). And we still continue to look vulnerable whenever a team gets in our half or has a corner/freekick.

That's completely on Klopp, we can't defend and don't deserve to have a huge amount of progress this season, because teams that can't defend and fail to do so in such an amateur fashion, don't deserve to win stuff.

It starts with the keeper, I don't think he was particularly well protected for the goal, but that's where you earn you crust, as the last line of defence he should have just punched it and if that meant taking out their player in the process, then so be it, it's as much about dominance in this league, playing in key defensive areas, and we have too many soft touches in these key roles, we have no one who stamps their authority on matches and defines the teams hunger.

He was MOTM away to Soton and kept us in the tie, that was surely a more than ok performance?

Even if we defended poorly for the corner, the goal is obviously down to Ming. It looks worse each time you see it.
So soft and undecisve.

Klopp has got a lot to do to sort this mess out.
I dont really agree that its "his" team yet. Yesterday saw 2 of his signings starting. Should have been 3 with Gini but thats another matter.
It will take a few more transfer windows before it is. Its his responsibility mind.

So it shows that its several of the same soft lads still in the team and making the same mistakes that they've made since Rodgers was here.
Hopefully Klopp will let them go this summer and realize that some of them wont succeed.

Fwiw I dont think its that your either with Klopp or against him, I think its we want him to sort it out asap and move on camp people are mostly in.
 
How many transfer windows does klopp need before we can say it's his team. Klopp has decided that these players are good enough. most of the current team were part of the same team that bottled it to villa in that fa cup semi final, hence its no real surprise that when faced with pressure of the recent weeks, the players crumble.
 
Fwiw I dont think its that your either with Klopp or against him, I think its we want him to sort it out asap and move on camp people are mostly in.

I want him to succeed and he needs time to, but I'm concerned he's doing absolutely nothing week on week to change his approach, it's like he's only got one method and he's determined to make it succeed, sometimes you have to have other tactics and ideas up your sleeve. Instead we're persisting with three attacking midfielders as a strike force, the same flat midfield, the same poor defense and the same predictable timing and choices for substitutions. No wonder our opponents have sussed us out, because there's absolutely no element of thought going into games, other than to get out there and hope our gen gen press works and that we keep the opposition out of our half, because if we don't, you just know we're going to concede.
 
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