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Share Liverpool Ready For Next Move - RAWK Not Happy

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themn

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article7145764.ece


Moves to turn Liverpool into the first Barclays Premier League club owned by their own supporters have taken a step forward after the board of ShareLiverpoolFC confirmed it has the funds in place to underwrite a full share issue.

With dissension over the ownership regime of Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr reaching new heights in recent weeks after Liverpool’s debt levels rose to an unprecedented £351million, ShareLiverpool is hoping to turn the tangible discord into a credible collective effort by supporters to buy a stake in the club.

The bid, which has the backing of a number of former Liverpool players including John Aldridge and John Barnes, had been in danger of failing in its infancy because of an inability to put together the six-figure sum necessary to underwrite it. However, funding has been provided to ensure that it can move to the next stage, which will involve fans being asked to commit to investing a minimum of £500 a share in the not for profit scheme.

ShareLiverpool officials believe that there are more than 4 million Liverpool fans in the UK and Ireland and are looking to tap into the huge interest that exists in the Merseyside club at home and abroad.

“I’m delighted ShareLiverpoolFC is now able to push on and issue the share offer,†Aldridge, who is on the board of the fans group, said. “We’ll need a tremendous response from the fans but I think millions of them are desperately worried about the current situation both on and off the field. At last, they’ve got a chance to actually to do something about it. Our fans have brought us ‘back from the dead’ in matches many times before: think only of the ‘miracle’ of Istanbul.

“They can do it again – this time at the heart of the club itself.â€

The aim of the scheme is to emulate the model of European clubs such as Bayern Munich, where supporters own 80 per cent of the club. “ShareLiverpoolFC board will now look to specify a date for a share issue later this summer,†Dr Rogan Taylor, a founder member, said.

“This is a serious and rigorously professional undertaking and we believe our core aspiration is both desirable and deliverable. This is our time. It presents the best – and perhaps the only chance – of fans gaining control or at the very least a significantequity stake in the club they love and support.â€
 
The RAWKites are seeing this as a tactic to undermine SOS.

Aldo better be careful !
 
I'm fully behind this, but not exactly hopeful they'll succeed in their main objective.

Good on them for getting this far
 
if I could ask them organisers questions it would be

1. if you did manage to buy the club, how would you fund transfers?
2. how would you build the stadium?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40518.msg1115505#msg1115505 date=1275994094]
if I could ask them organisers questions it would be

1. if you did manage to buy the club, how would you fund transfers?
2. how would you build the stadium?
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Going back on what I previously said....


http://www.shareliverpoolfc.co.uk/index.php/faqs
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40518.msg1115502#msg1115502 date=1275993784]
I'm fully behind this, but not exactly hopeful they'll succeed in their main objective.

Good on them for getting this far
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+1
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=40518.msg1115498#msg1115498 date=1275993369]
The RAWKites are seeing this as a tactic to undermine SOS.

Aldo better be careful !
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oh FFS. At least they're doing something that has a crediblity about it & doesn't embarrass the club in the process.
 
Im really pleased to see this idea gathering some momentum however at £350m bidding price I dont see them being successful in a takeover attempt much as I would love to see it, the more time that elapses the larger the debt grows making a move like this progressively more risky so if they are going to push through with this then it has to be done soon I reckon, good luck to them at least its positive fans with initiative trying to help the club and offer an inclusive democratic style of ownerwship rather than just starting trouble and praying for Sheik to come to our rescue
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40518.msg1115511#msg1115511 date=1275995164]
SoS are just pissed off it's not called Shares of Shankly and have a burning US flag as the logo is all.
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And that Share Liverpool have rejected a merger with SOS
 
This looks a interesting proposition, wish i had 500quid spare to do so. The only concern is that should the absolute worst case ever happen of administration/bankruptcy happen (doubt and hope it ever will) how does this affect the shareholders then what would they be liable for!
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=40518.msg1115526#msg1115526 date=1275997385]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40518.msg1115511#msg1115511 date=1275995164]
SoS are just pissed off it's not called Shares of Shankly and have a burning US flag as the logo is all.
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And that Share Liverpool have rejected a merger with SOS
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very wise! We dont need so kind of knee jerk reaction movemement involved in what could be one of the best things to ever happen to the club.
 
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=40518.msg1115530#msg1115530 date=1275997650]
This looks a interesting proposition, wish i had 500quid spare to do so. The only concern is that should the absolute worst case ever happen of administration/bankruptcy happen (doubt and hope it ever will) how does this affect the shareholders then what would they be liable for!
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lose your 500 notes and walk away, if you buy 1 ordinary share in Northern Rock and it goes tits up owing abillion quid to some japanese bank then you are not indebted to them personally you lose the value of your share and nothing else
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=40518.msg1115526#msg1115526 date=1275997385]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40518.msg1115511#msg1115511 date=1275995164]
SoS are just pissed off it's not called Shares of Shankly and have a burning US flag as the logo is all.
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And that Share Liverpool have rejected a merger with SOS
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It's really most unbecoming, the wailings emanating from them about that.

I was curious as to why they turned down SOS last week, it must have been that they

A: didnt want people to think they cannot do it themselves (bit of an ego trip)
B: have sufficient funds, much more than we all thought, or they let on
C: ive no idea what C is, but im sure there are other reasons, but at 4am, i cannot think of any

It stinks of being a shameless spoiler

Couldn't agree more, where have they campaigned, rallied sought any form of cohesion with the fans. I'm not swapping one crippling dicatorship for another.

SL rejected SOS' approach not the other way around. I find it quit funny that SL announce this now just after SOS announced their scheme a few days ago. SL split more then they unite. Let us all get in full force behind SOS. We need one strong group.

This is a disgraceful spoiler to the SOS scheme which only came about because Share Liverpool have been so totally inactive. Trying to appear as if they are ready to go when they own nothing. This is more important than Rogan Taylor's Ego

They really are quite an egotistical and self-obsessed little bunch, aren't they?

Rather than support a group of fans that has the same overall aim as them, they've got the hump because they wouldn't play with them
 
I'd buy one too.

There's still going to have to be a significant amount of debt involved because £350m isn't enough.
 
would be worth rbs forcing the club into adminstration, hicks forced to accept a deal for what the club is worth and share liverpool taking over the club. fans of lfc would never fuck liverpool over...


*cough* except moores and parry *cough*
 
at £500 a pop you only need 900,000 buy to get £450 million.

Surely that is doable.

I'll deffo have a few of those shares, so that only another 899,996 left to sell easy.

If buying it for circa 350-450 million wiped out the debt and then we put debt back on to build the stadium, I think everyone would be happy with that as the stadium would more than cover the payments of the loan, especially if you factor in a stadium naming rights for circa 150 million we would only need to find another 200-250 million in loans.
 
I would be incredibly proud to own a share in Liverpool Football Club. And, right at this moment, I can afford to do it. Sell it to me now guys before I spend it on something inessential like food or fuel!
 
Maybe Moores could buy £50 million worth of shares to get things started and in way of apology for fucking up the sale of the club royally in the first place.
 
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=40518.msg1115669#msg1115669 date=1276009551]
You have to live in the UK to be eligible for a share correct?
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Really? Why would that be?
 
[quote author=IGotALuvlyBunchOfCoconuts link=topic=40518.msg1115669#msg1115669 date=1276009551]
You have to live in the UK to be eligible for a share correct?
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I haven't checked, but I'm fairly sure they loosened the criteria after it became apparent they wouldn't get all the money they required from UK investors.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40518.msg1115553#msg1115553 date=1275999784]
would be worth rbs forcing the club into adminstration, hicks forced to accept a deal for what the club is worth and share liverpool taking over the club. fans of lfc would never fuck liverpool over...


*cough* except moores and parry *cough*
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Oh, do shut up !
 
Its 1 person 1 share as I understand it so all you can do is chuck in your 500 quid, dont think its limited to UK residence as they have a breakdown of proposed shareholders with a fair portion coming in from Ireland and Scandanavian countries.

Paying off the debts are being proposed to be done via a different mechanism, the plan seems to be to offer fans the chance to buy a "loan share" which the club use to pay off teh debt and then pay a return of 2% (significantly lower than the current interest rates) to the holder for a set period until the loan has been paid back thereby effectively removing the debt from the club, this in turn will make the club more attractive to investment and better able to fund the stadium through a standard banking loan. Im not well read enough on financial take over type stuff to know if this is a viable proposition but it does at least seem to be based on a real business plan and not just wild speculative ideas. If they did manage to firm this up and created a real possibility for this to succeed by teaming up with an international financial powerhouse then I would be prepared to be throw a few quid at it
 
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