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Poll Sell or rehabilitate (Poll)

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What is your preferred outcome for Suarez

  • We sell to a Spanish club for €80M (£65M)

    Votes: 8 10.8%

  • We sell to a Barcelona for €50 (£40M) + Sanchez

    Votes: 36 48.6%

  • We 'rehabilitate' the mad fecker

    Votes: 30 40.5%
  • Total voters
    74
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Not looking for a discussion (it is already a warzone!) just wanted to get the feeling amongst the supporters. I've used the figures quoted by the BBC reporter who seems to have a clue on these things. He reckons Barca may not want to buy now though!

My vote was for £40M + Sanchez mainly because I'm convinced he will transgress again and he will be getting more bans in future
 
I picked rehabilitate because I don't think Barca/Madrid will offer us more than 30 million quid based on 'damaged goods'. If they offer us what you mention above, I'd take the Barca offer 1st, and then only cash.
 
If rehabilitate includes exorcism I am voting for that.

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What's most important to me is that we aren't shafted by this creep. If there's no player available, who would come here, and play as well as Suarez last season, then we're the ones losing out whilst the egomaniacal twat trots off to another pay day. So rehabilitate, but not for him but for our benefit.
 
Not holding out much hope for a player plus cash bid, still hurt from from the Nunez transfer.

On Plus side he has a long contract and is a quality player so his transfer value could be higher next summer, though would it be worth risk that he doesn't fcuk up once as he seems to mange once a year for us!
 
Surprised mine's the only vote so far for a straight cash deal. Sanchez is a fine player and I'd be happy enough with him in part-exchange, but ideally I'd want us to decide whom we want and what we're prepared to pay.
 
Given they paid about €25M (£20M) for Sanchez and he's scored in 1 in 2 since then I'd say £40m + Sanchez is fucking brilliant.

He is a short arse though!
 
Judge Jules said:
Surprised mine's the only vote so far for a straight cash deal. Sanchez is a fine player and I'd be happy enough with him in part-exchange, but ideally I'd want us to decide whom we want and what we're prepared to pay.
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Sounds like we are interested in Sanchez and he is a fine player so think he'd probably fit your above criteria.

I'm inclined to agree with Macca and LTW. It feels like if we sell we're going to get bummed on the deal now. We'd probably be better off keeping him then selling for some derisory figure.
 
keniget said:
Sounds like we are interested in Sanchez and he is a fine player so think he'd probably fit your above criteria.

I'm inclined to agree with Macca and LTW. It feels like if we sell we're going to get bummed on the deal now. We'd probably be better off keeping him then selling for some derisory figure.
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If the offer is a poor one then yes, I'd agree. In an ideal world, though, I'd sell, as it seems fairly clear that he and his representatives have been looking into the possibility of his moving for a while now.

Not convinced that we'll end up getting lowballed on a deal. Of course other clubs will try it on, but he's still a very desirable commodity as a footballer so I don't see this as a buyer's market necessarily. His international ban should be a selling-point if anything.
 
The problem is that we have no fucking idea whether we can ever rehab him. It looked like we had done it last season, then he goes off to the World Cup and creates a storm. The threat of it exploding in our face is going to work against us, unfortunately. If we keep him (for now), we'll be constantly hoping he doesn't go off and get himself suspended for a year or for his lifetime and leave us high and dry.

It's a losing hand we're holding, unfortunately. I really think we should dump him, even if, in the short term, we're poorer for it. How well we mask our poor hand is what we pay the suits for - hopefully they'll actually manage to not suck (well, we did get 15m for Carroll and also collected some loan fee for him, as well as 5m for Downing, so maybe there's hope yet).

Perhaps we could get a big face-saving number, but the payment schedule will probably (and rightly) be conditional on appearances. Perversely, Suarez will get what he wants by being a cunt, sadly.
 
IMO there's a danger of overdoing this bit about our supposedly "poor hand". Barca or whoever will try and persuade us that that's the case, but they wouldn't be asking in the first place if they didn't want him, and ultimately we don't have to sell. Let's not be doing their work for them.
 
I would go for option one if I thought we would get 80M. He's let us down one time to many as far as I'm concerned. I love him as a player but he's mental, and will probably offend again.
 
Judge Jules said:
IMO there's a danger of overdoing this bit about our supposedly "poor hand". Barca or whoever will try and persuade us that that's the case, but they wouldn't be asking in the first place if they didn't want him, and ultimately we don't have to sell. Let's not be doing their work for them.
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That's where I said the guys we pay money to be smart in wheeling and dealing comes in. I'm not saying let's go tell the world we want to dump him. I'm sure there are guys well-versed in the dark arts who know the tricks in positioning and negotiating so that a poor hand doesn't seem like such a glaring weakness after all. Now, whether we've them working for us is a different thing...
 
Fuck that. Even if he's damaged goods, he's one of the best footballers in the world. If we're not getting in the region of 100 million stg for him, he shouldn't be sold. People seem to be underestimating how difficult it will be to replace him.

I'm going with the rehab option.
 
Could just as well say people underestimate the effort to rehabilitate him too. He comes back, loses his head again - and he well might - and we're really royally screwed then.

I don't underestimate the cost and difficulty of replacing him. It boils down to weighing the risks. We could get some cash and maybe a player and if we get things right, replace his production with some collective efforts from the rest, or we could stay the course with him, but run the risk of maybe losing him for longer, or perhaps for good, if he loses his head again. I'd choose to adopt a defensive position and take the money as I'm really unsure we can trust him.

It's all his fucking fault we've got to make a choice.
 
There is no rehabilitation possible, since he doesn't accept anything was wrong with what he did.

It's sell or live with it. And it was after last time too. So for that reason, his price doesn't change.

Last year 40m wasnt enough, while a 6 game ban was awaited. Now after the best season of his career he awaits a 9 game ban. The risk in terms of behaviour is exactly the same. So the price is higher.

That's my position as the selling club,but as a buyer I'd be wary more of his peak ending a lot sooner than expected.
 
Pains me to sell one of the top 3 players in the world but now I dont think we have much choice.
IF a bid comes in that mathces the release clause (80sih mill £) or cash + Sanchez then I'd accept it.

Move on and hopefully spend the money wisely.
 
So, let's say Chelsea or City come in dangling 80m. Would you sell? I can see howls of disapproval about not selling to a rival, but if you're considering selling to a Spanish club in the first place, then you're probably not confident that he'll stay out of trouble. And if you think he'll get into trouble again - doesn't that then make a sale to a direct rival a possible means of weakening them in a way? Mind-boggling.
 
I've gone with the +sanchez option on two main counts:

1) If Suarez steps out of line in England again he'll (and us) be royally fucked (season long ban etc)

2) I happen to think Sanchez is a brilliant wee player with more to come (both as wing forward and potentially as a Luis-type forward). So getting him for approx 25m or so would be excellent business.
 
Bunch of hysterical fannies everywhere. Elbowing, two footed stamps, head butts are all just a red and a three match ban or whatever. Load of fucking bollocks. He did wrong, he's being punished ridiculously harshly.
FIFA – corrupt as fuck but get away with it.
Player – violent conduct that causes opponent no harm, treated like bin Laden.
Fuck football.
 
Rosco said:
There is no rehabilitation possible, since he doesn't accept anything was wrong with what he did.
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If chemical castration worked for sex offenders in the past, then there must be some equivalent for his bititis. Can't just be tooth removal, as then the argument that "gumming" is so outlandish it deserves a life time ban rears its head
 
tombrown said:
If chemical castration worked for sex offenders in the past, then there must be some equivalent for his bititis. Can't just be tooth removal, as then the argument that "gumming" is so outlandish it deserves a life time ban rears its head
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Hmm. That's something he hasn't tried yet. 2 season ban if he does that.
 
We must be pretty dumb to sell him now.

Isn't the idea to sell players at their peak? This is pretty much his lowest point (well according to some of you anyway).

Come next summer Barca will come begging and offer us Sanchez + 20m
People will be crying blue murder if we sell him. Barca / Madrid presidents will plegde their campaigns on him.
 
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