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Roy: Purslow initiated Cole signing, not me

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King Binny

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/219000/Liverpool-s-Joe-Cole-must-fight-to-keep-up-appearances

JOE COLE was sitting in a media tent in the build-up to England’s opening match at the World Cup when he was asked if Fabio Capello’s disciplinarian outlook, and the sparse and isolated surroundings of the team’s Rustenburg base, might take away some of the enjoyment of being involved in the biggest show on the planet.

“You can’t suck the fun out of football,†Cole shot back, his response instantaneous.

With his own personal annus horribilis now weighing heavily on his shoulders, his attitude may have changed in the months since.
From Chelsea cast-off to England reject to bit-part player at Liverpool, Cole is facing arguably the biggest test of his career as he attempts to coax the smile back on to his face and force himself back into someone’s – anyone’s – starting line-up.

One thing is certain: the new year represents a new start.

“Joe has to come to terms with the fact that he has come here after an unsuccessful period at Chelsea with high hopes of taking Liverpool by storm and unfortunately it’s not happened. That’s life,†said Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson yesterday.

“He should have great confidence in his ability as he is a very good footballer. As far as I am concerned, everything he has to say should be said on that patch of green grass.

“He should be convincing me and everyone watching that this is a player who can help Liverpool win things. And you couldn’t say that has been the case so far.

“I don’t care how many things are written or said, you can’t make black into white.

“What I’m saying could be transformed into ‘Hodgson criticises Cole’, but it’s not that. I’m just analysing the situation.â€

Having only recently returned from a hamstring injury, the postponement of the Fulham game and the threat which hangs over the Boxing Day fixture with Blackpool fits neatly with a year of frustration for Cole.

He made as many substitute appearances for Chelsea in the second half of last season, 11, as starts and was restricted to two cameos lasting just 44 minutes in total at the World Cup, despite John Terry’s very public lobbying for him to be shoe-horned into Capello’s starting line-up. Therein lies part of the problem for Cole, whose sole goal for Liverpool against Steaua Bucharest after just 27 seconds has at least earned him a place in the record books as the club’s fastest goalscorer in Europe.

Cole believes he is best deployed just off the striker. Yet after a handful of appearances in that role, stymied by his opening-weekend red card against Arsenal, Hodgson quickly moved him to the left of midfield.

Hodgson currently favours Maxi Rodriguez there and Dirk Kuyt on the right and, with Steven Gerrard also ready to return from injury, the competition for places will only become fiercer. “Joe is a midfield player and what’s the right position for a midfield player?†said Hodgson. “Gerrard has played all over midfield for as long as I can remember because he’s a good player.

“I hope Joe remembers this from the conversation we had in the summer when I made it clear I could not promise him a certain position.

“I made it clear Steven Gerrard was staying and the competition for the one spot, if it was the one spot he wanted, was going to be tough.â€

It is interesting to note the way Hodgson speaks about Cole’s situation compared, for example, to the newly found warmth for someone like Lucas.

Liverpool’s interest in acquiring Cole after his Chelsea contract expired had been plotted long before Hodgson was appointed, but the club maintains that the manager approved, rather than simply inherited, the signing.

“It’s a difficult one for me to answer,†said Hodgson. “I was involved in the discussions with him, but the initiative and the desire to take Joe did come from Christian [Purslow, then managing director] perhaps more so than myself because I wasn’t in the position to say these are the players we should be targeting as I hadn’t been offered the job at that point.

“He’s not so much a player I can take responsibility for. I’d have to share the responsibility for Joe, less so than people like Poulsen, Meireles and Konchesky, who are players I was happy to bring to the club.

“Our competition for places is getting stronger, so the only thing I can say to him is, ‘We’re happy to have you here, Joe, but I canâ™t offer you anything more than a chance and you have to take it when it comes along’.â€

Cole will be anxious to do just that.‘Joe has to take his chance when it comes along’
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[quote author=Binny link=topic=43270.msg1237003#msg1237003 date=1293073254]
I’d have to share the responsibility for Joe, less so than people like Poulsen, Meireles and Konchesky, who are players I was happy to bring to the club.
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So you're 1 for 3 Roy, thats about the kwality of one recently let go manager. And the fact that those two failings were predicted failings by almost everyone on this site; meaning there was never any excitement just adds to the disappointment. I really hope Commoli is in charge of signings and thats not an indictment of my faith in Commoli; I just don't want Roy continuing to destroy our club.
 
I find these comments from Roy sickening and can't imagine they're good for Cole's morale. Of course, we aren't privy to the questions Roy was asked but I don't see a need to be washing his hands of the transfer and leaving Cole out alone like that. Roy really seems to be trying to shrug off blame for all kinds of things onto other people lately. I find it unprofessional.
 
"I'm just analysing the situation."

No you're fucking not. You're calling yet another player out for playing shite.

Things that Mourinho, Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez et al do once in a blue fucking moon cos they've got the rungs on the board to do so, and know that they've done enough to coax the quality out of the player, and this 'public criticism' is the last roll of the dice.

You've been here 2 minutes, and have got nothing out of anyone.

So to shy away from your job as a fucking 'MANAGER' and to publicly out yet another one of our more-than-fucking-good-enough footballers cos you haven't got the capability to eek it out of him isn't "analysing the situation" - it's a cheap diversion tactic, and is endearing you to no one.

Fucking ridiculous.
 
If it were likely to motivate Cole to play better, I'd be fine with it. I don't think Cole is the sort of player who responds to this sort of comment, so I'm not fine with it.
 
I remember listening to one of the Spanish footy commentators talking about Mourinho and about what made him so 'special'

He was saying one of the key qualities was the ability to convince all of his players that they were quality players and essential to the team, even if they werent playing regularly.

Now compare that attitude to Roy's. He's now continually suggesting that players are underperforming and are, effectively, to blame.

Personally Roy, I'd say its got something to do with your negative shite tactics, and non-existent motivational skills. Why dont you fuck off and go rub your face?
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43270.msg1237027#msg1237027 date=1293091281]
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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That's why we never never never ever should even think about re-signing Rafa once Roy fucks off.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43270.msg1237027#msg1237027 date=1293091281]
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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Who's better, who's best?
 
[quote author=Shelvey link=topic=43270.msg1237009#msg1237009 date=1293077824]
[quote author=Binny link=topic=43270.msg1237003#msg1237003 date=1293073254]
I’d have to share the responsibility for Joe, less so than people like Poulsen, Meireles and Konchesky, who are players I was happy to bring to the club.
[/quote]

So you're 1 for 3 Roy, thats about the kwality of one recently let go manager. And the fact that those two failings were predicted failings by almost everyone on this site; meaning there was never any excitement just adds to the disappointment. I really hope Commoli is in charge of signings and thats not an indictment of my faith in Commoli; I just don't want Roy continuing to destroy our club.
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Yeah, that is something he should shut up about.

Cole hasnt worked out so far, but he is a good player and anyone could see that it was a good idea at the time especially when Yossi had wanted to leave for a while.

Between the 3players he's proudly claimed responsibility for, only one struck you as having any quality;even if thre were fears of having that quality translated into the Premiership.

Poulsen and Konchesky were shit at their teams, and he still bought them anyway.
 
I can't wait for him to "analyse" his own managerial performance with as much objectivity.

The useless twat.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=43270.msg1237017#msg1237017 date=1293084790]
"I'm just analysing the situation."

No you're fucking not. You're calling yet another player out for playing shite.

Things that Mourinho, Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez et al do once in a blue fucking moon cos they've got the rungs on the board to do so, and know that they've done enough to coax the quality out of the player, and this 'public criticism' is the last roll of the dice.

You've been here 2 minutes, and have got nothing out of anyone.

So to shy away from your job as a fucking 'MANAGER' and to publicly out yet another one of our more-than-fucking-good-enough footballers cos you haven't got the capability to eek it out of him isn't "analysing the situation" - it's a cheap diversion tactic, and is endearing you to no one.

Fucking ridiculous.
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Yep he's a fucking awful manager. Funny how he finds it hard to criticise those players he admits bringing to the club i.e. Konchesky and Poulsen who are utter utter shite. He's a cock alright.
 
It's like he's on a mission to make us hate him. I'd love to know what the players think of him on the whole... surely they must be counting down the days like the rest of us.
 
He's nothing short of embarrassing Keni. The whole club has been an embarrassment in one way or another over the last 3 years. I hope Roy is the last desparate dying throes of that long line of embarrassing shite.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=43270.msg1237036#msg1237036 date=1293094004]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43270.msg1237027#msg1237027 date=1293091281]
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
[/quote]

Who's better, who's best?
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Both of them are poor managers.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43270.msg1237056#msg1237056 date=1293097283]
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=43270.msg1237036#msg1237036 date=1293094004]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43270.msg1237027#msg1237027 date=1293091281]
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
[/quote]

Who's better, who's best?
[/quote]

Both of them are poor managers.
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And dire man-managers in many instances.
 
In think Roy knows his days are numbered he has given up trying to win the fans over and is now just venting his frustrations whenever somebody gives him the opportunity. Whether he lasts another 6 days or 6 months I would wager this has been one of the worst experiences of his long career. He has himself to blame he left a job where he was a hero to the fans to take one where he was woefully out of his depth, he has lurched from one cock up to another and been found seriously wanting, I fully expect him to be one of those guys that will be called upon by the media for the rest of his life any time they want a negative reaction about the club, he really really hates us for the treatment he has received here, but its a results business and anytime he wants to string a few wins together and ram it back down peoples throats hes welcome to, sadly hes shown that he is not capable of confounding his critics expectations merely conforming to them.
 
Oh dear Roy, you really are a fucking idiot. Nothing surprises me any more about him, his comments are getting worse each time he opens that mouth of his.

Just piss off please.
 
Did you see him when the reporter dared to ask yesterday about links with Rafa coming back? He got ridiculously defensive, then seemed to forget what he was talking about.
 
This is madness.

It's not LFC, its a fucking circus. The sooner we fuck off Roy and bring in a young(ish) manager who is less set in his ways, and who wants to win fucking everything all the time the better.
 
In a way it's a pity that managers have to be media-savvy. It oughtn't to matter really, but the fact is that it does and that Roy is, if anything, even more clueless in that area than he is in footballing terms at a club like LFC. Everything he says or does screams out "Overpromoted, out of his depth, struggling to cope". For pity's sake (and I do mean that literally) cut him loose, pronto.
 
Face rubbing, finger sniffing hapless old codger. Maybe he'll forget where melwood is one of these days and wander off to some small community where someone will feel sorry for him and take him in.
 
then he could only really lose his job to pnuemonia, or being beaten and raped by the gas service engineer.

with a fully paid gas bill however there are more options: asphyxiation, explosion, fire, undercooked food, scolded by a faulty shower, slipping in the shower, heat stroke, loss of vital body chemicals due to excessive sweating, and so on
 
Pity the Fulham game was off. I was really hoping he might forget himself and get on their bus after the match and fuck off back to London.
 
I really dislike Roy, I hate his press conferences his inability to assess the situation and learn from it quickly is shocking.
He was roundly criticised by people in the press and other for his comments re GloJo, he should have taken from that situation and thought about his choice of words a little longer.
 
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