http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8114086/
Good for him, I say. Don't think it will get him anywhere though.
Good for him, I say. Don't think it will get him anywhere though.
Rodgers complains to referee's chief, Mike Riley
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To be honest, I wish we didn't respect referees or the rules of the game. Stupid diving (like Suarez has a history of doing) is stupid because it's stupid, not because it's diving.
Our players and the entire staff need to be using every opportunity, including the media, to influence and even intimidate referees and their assistants. At Anfield we should be consciously putting them under enormous pressure and making them as scared, hassled and disoriented as possible.
So much can depend on tiny little decisions, tiny seeds of doubt or preference sown in the minds of officials. A single decision can make or break a season or a career.
If you really want to win, then you do everything within your power to manage those small margins, those small things that can make a difference.
I don't want us to respect referees or officials, I want us to control them. I want the fans of other teams to be photoshopping their heads onto liverpool shirts, I want other managers to be complaining, not ours.
Stop this respect bullshit. We shouldn't be paying all these fuckers more than 100k a week to fucking respect a maths teacher from Surrey, we should be paying them to win at all costs.
Our players and the entire staff need to be using every opportunity, including the media, to influence and even intimidate referees and their assistants. At Anfield we should be consciously putting them under enormous pressure and making them as scared, hassled and disoriented as possible.
So much can depend on tiny little decisions, tiny seeds of doubt or preference sown in the minds of officials. A single decision can make or break a season or a career.
If you really want to win, then you do everything within your power to manage those small margins, those small things that can make a difference.
I don't want us to respect referees or officials, I want us to control them. I want the fans of other teams to be photoshopping their heads onto liverpool shirts, I want other managers to be complaining, not ours.
Stop this respect bullshit. We shouldn't be paying all these fuckers more than 100k a week to fucking respect a maths teacher from Surrey, we should be paying them to win at all costs.
This was spoken about at length on the taw podcast, saying kenny used to do it when he played.
Scholars was in the refs ear constantly on Sunday, they don't have a go at him, just say they were hard done by or that he'd got something right, positive reinforcement of his decisions or pressure on a decision that went against them so they'd get the benefit if the ref was unsure of the next decision cos he worried he got the last one wrong.
It works, Gerrard has done it, but only for himself, not for the team. We need someone to do it regularly.
Great post. Been saying this for ages - we need to be ruthless and stop pretending that we're better than everyone else. Fans of other teams don't think we are so if we're not getting the respect we may as well get the benefits.
I remember reading about the Leeds team of the 70 (ok, they were particularly bad but they were winners) and how Giles and Bremner, among others, used to try to fuck with the referees head, very interesting.
Basically, as far as they were concerned, referees make mistakes in every game, this exposes your team to risk, that risk needs to be managed, so you fucking manage it by minimizing your own risk and increasing the opponents. For any official, a judgment against you, whether correct or not, should always be more consequential than a judgment against the opposition.
Basically, as far as they were concerned, referees make mistakes in every game, this exposes your team to risk, that risk needs to be managed, so you fucking manage it by minimizing your own risk and increasing the opponents. For any official, a judgment against you, whether correct or not, should always be more consequential than a judgment against the opposition.
It DID work, actually, but only briefly. That's how it always works. The club has been pretty clever with the various comments distributed by the club about this treatment, and it will put officials on the defensive. But only in the short term.
I hadn't noticed that TBH but, even if it's true, it may be a hurdle we have to cross. If we keep saying it often enough, refs.and others will come to believe it.
He did need to say something hopefully it gets noted.
Agree with this. Brendan Rodgers essentially says the same in his Press conference, boiled down his comments amount to 'if you set out to respect the rules and it's not working for you, then players are likely to say - if you can't beat them, join them' and look to gain unfair advantage.
He also says Riley was expecting his call, so the disparity has not gone unnoticed. Neither should it, we need one of them there level playing fields.
Luis Suarez today defended Premier League referees after they were criticised by Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers.
Rodgers has spoken to Mike Riley, head of referees, about decisions going against his side.
In particular, he highlighted penalty claims by Suarez which had been turned down with, on one occasion, the Uruguay international being booked for diving.
But Suarez accepts that mistakes happen and said: “There are times when the referee gets it right and others when he doesn’t but that’s all part and parcel of the game.
“It’s happened in the last few games, like against Manchester United when the penalty shout on me wasn’t given and then the one on Antonio Valencia was.
“But talking about it doesn’t solve anything — the referee has a split second to see an incident. Let’s just hope that it doesn’t happen again in the future.”
Credit where it's due, the club's handled this really well - getting players to raise the issue, then have Saurez be seen to rise above it, it's very well done. Quite a shock given the club's previous incompetence.
Rodgers has spoken to Mike Riley, head of referees, about decisions going against his side.
In particular, he highlighted penalty claims by Suarez which had been turned down with, on one occasion, the Uruguay international being booked for diving.
But Suarez accepts that mistakes happen and said: “There are times when the referee gets it right and others when he doesn’t but that’s all part and parcel of the game.
“It’s happened in the last few games, like against Manchester United when the penalty shout on me wasn’t given and then the one on Antonio Valencia was.
“But talking about it doesn’t solve anything — the referee has a split second to see an incident. Let’s just hope that it doesn’t happen again in the future.”
Credit where it's due, the club's handled this really well - getting players to raise the issue, then have Saurez be seen to rise above it, it's very well done. Quite a shock given the club's previous incompetence.
Sneaky. Very sneaky.
Refs will be like, "there's Suarez. He stuck up for us. Let's give him a peno".
Refs will be like, "there's Suarez. He stuck up for us. Let's give him a peno".
I do agree though Macca; it is clearly a carefully worked effort to change our fortunes with refs. Let's hope it pays off.
Maybe it is a cunning double strategy of good cop and bad cop with Rogers having a go at refs and Suarez defending them!
Although knowing us it's probably a ballsed up attempt at trying to influence decisions in our favour with 2 senior people at LFC saying two contradictory things on the same issue in a 24 hour period!
Although knowing us it's probably a ballsed up attempt at trying to influence decisions in our favour with 2 senior people at LFC saying two contradictory things on the same issue in a 24 hour period!
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