Quietest transfer window ever ?
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It's all going to kick off tomorrow
As long as it gives Sky Sports the shits I couldn't give a toss. Transfer windows are utter wank.
Or.... clubs planning ahead so that only the desperate have to dip I to the transfer market.
Not all plans are good or work out the way they should.
Yep, I've been wondering that too. PSG coming up with 43m for Luiz, Wolfsburg coming up with 47m for the pair of de Bruyne and Schurrle... and then there's talk of Salah eventually moving for the same price that they bought him for.
Something smells.
Cos they keep buying good players even if Mourinho doesn't want them, and then stockpile their assets until they need some liquidity
Yep.
They countered ffp by buying half the available players in the market (ok, a slight exaggeration) & stockpiling them as assets.
Everyone immediately assumed they were simply doing what city did & throwing shite at the wall til some stuck, or to stop their rivals getting stronger, however, I'm pretty sure it was simply making sure ffp was partially nullified by ensuring they had a lot of players to convert to cash they can use to buy players they need in future.
more importantly they buy young players of real quality or established international stars with their best years ahead of them at big prices. They have learnt from the Torres, Shevchenko, Ballack disasters.
Well yeah, plus, when thinking about players as assets it makes more sense to buy young cos the wages are less & the value continues to increase, so your investment is more secure & costs less to maintain.
They have like 30 players out on loan as well
They've been well-managed, there's no doubt about that. They're going to be around for a while, unfortunately.
The more interesting case is City, and how they get on in the medium term. I know they've invested loads in their academy recently and made various other provisions, but they've got loads of ageing or over-rated players on massive contracts and a relatively small turnover. I think they're the ones we might have most chance of displacing from the top 4 over the coming years.
Toure's 31, and Silva, Kompany, Zabaleta, Fernandinho, Dzeko and Navas are all 30 or thereabouts. Milner's another good player they'll be losing this summer, too.
I think they're vulnerable.
The more interesting case is City, and how they get on in the medium term. I know they've invested loads in their academy recently and made various other provisions, but they've got loads of ageing or over-rated players on massive contracts and a relatively small turnover. I think they're the ones we might have most chance of displacing from the top 4 over the coming years.
Toure's 31, and Silva, Kompany, Zabaleta, Fernandinho, Dzeko and Navas are all 30 or thereabouts. Milner's another good player they'll be losing this summer, too.
I think they're vulnerable.
And UEFA will investigate it, say it's dodgy, then fine them 500k an reduce their champions league squad limit to 22. Which will have no effect on them what so ever.
Haven't they already been warned about that?
UEFA seem to be serious about implementing FFP, so they can hardly let slide something so crude as that.
http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/...s-their-8-punishments-for-breaching-ffp-rules
Posted by Ed Thompson on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Article published 4 April 2012
At the UEFA conference in Istanbul, UEFA ratified three more disciplinary measures for clubs that breach FFP rules. As I outlined in my article on 7 Feb, five measures had previously been agreed at the Nyon Conference in January.
The full menu of punishments now reads:
● Reprimand / Warning
● Fine
● Deduction of Points
● Withholding of Revenue from UEFA competition
● Prohibition to register new players for UEFA competitions;
● A restriction on the number of players that a club may register for UEFA competitions
● Disqualification from a competition in progress
● Exclusion from future competitions
Although the European Commission recently announced their approval of the Financial Fair Play regulations, there is a requirement for the rules and punishments to be applied in a fair and consistent manner. Deciding which clubs receive which punishments and determining the severity of the punishment for all transgressions is likely to prove extremely problematic for Platini. The FFP rules contain a huge number of potential transgressions, raging from overspend, to failure to have an under-10 youth team. Even the financial requirements are wide-ranging and UEFA will be challenged when comparing rule-breaking such as overspend, failure of an owner to inject equity and failure to be up-to date with taxes. And once the relative seriousness of the crimes are evaluated, there will be issues to be determined within each crime. For example, should a club overspending by £1m be punished the same as one overspending by £50m? Exclusion isn't an easily scalable punishment. And if the problem isn't difficult enough, UEFA has advised that it is keen to phase-in FFP over the next few years (presumably increasing the severity of the punishments). When considering this potential minefild, UEFA needs to be mindful that it faces a potential legal challenge if the punishments are not applied fairly and consistently. Platini has achieved a great deal and surprised many by getting the FFP rules this far - perhaps the hard part is only just beginning.
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/newsid=1772689.html
Posted by Ed Thompson on Sunday, April 15, 2012
Article published 4 April 2012
At the UEFA conference in Istanbul, UEFA ratified three more disciplinary measures for clubs that breach FFP rules. As I outlined in my article on 7 Feb, five measures had previously been agreed at the Nyon Conference in January.
The full menu of punishments now reads:
● Reprimand / Warning
● Fine
● Deduction of Points
● Withholding of Revenue from UEFA competition
● Prohibition to register new players for UEFA competitions;
● A restriction on the number of players that a club may register for UEFA competitions
● Disqualification from a competition in progress
● Exclusion from future competitions
Although the European Commission recently announced their approval of the Financial Fair Play regulations, there is a requirement for the rules and punishments to be applied in a fair and consistent manner. Deciding which clubs receive which punishments and determining the severity of the punishment for all transgressions is likely to prove extremely problematic for Platini. The FFP rules contain a huge number of potential transgressions, raging from overspend, to failure to have an under-10 youth team. Even the financial requirements are wide-ranging and UEFA will be challenged when comparing rule-breaking such as overspend, failure of an owner to inject equity and failure to be up-to date with taxes. And once the relative seriousness of the crimes are evaluated, there will be issues to be determined within each crime. For example, should a club overspending by £1m be punished the same as one overspending by £50m? Exclusion isn't an easily scalable punishment. And if the problem isn't difficult enough, UEFA has advised that it is keen to phase-in FFP over the next few years (presumably increasing the severity of the punishments). When considering this potential minefild, UEFA needs to be mindful that it faces a potential legal challenge if the punishments are not applied fairly and consistently. Platini has achieved a great deal and surprised many by getting the FFP rules this far - perhaps the hard part is only just beginning.
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/newsid=1772689.html
I think City's revenue will begin to grow quite substantially just as Chelsea's has over recent years.
Success opens a lot of doors.
The point is that City aren't in anything like as strong a position as it first appears.
They should be unassailable by now with the money they've spent, but a remarkable amount has been wasted. Even now, their last two big signings were £60m on Mangala and Bony.
They should be unassailable by now with the money they've spent, but a remarkable amount has been wasted. Even now, their last two big signings were £60m on Mangala and Bony.
Let just say Real Madrid & Barcelona continually breach FFP..
Do you think they would exclude them from UEFA compettions.. ?
Not a chance.. as the sponsorships would threaten to withdraw their funding..
If it was Ajax, some random Russian team or even ourselves, yes they probably would .
So the rules inline for breaching FFP cannot be applied consistantly for all clubs... therefore will be legally challenged
Do you think they would exclude them from UEFA compettions.. ?
Not a chance.. as the sponsorships would threaten to withdraw their funding..
If it was Ajax, some random Russian team or even ourselves, yes they probably would .
So the rules inline for breaching FFP cannot be applied consistantly for all clubs... therefore will be legally challenged
I wasn't aware Real or Barca had ever breached FFP. Source etc?
The amount of players who were once lauded and loved by neutrals who have gone to play for the gangster's codpiece and totally destroyed any goodwill or admiration they had prior is astounding. The easiest way to prove you are an absolute twunt.
What's someone with £47 million in the bank doing hanging around on football forums?
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