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Who was the last manager that had the title in our own hands with 4 games to go?
It's pointing out that he has gotten us closer to our goal than any manager has in a very long time and deserves more time to get us there again.
A contrarian could also argue that he was within 4 games of winning the league, and then fucking blew it.
Indeed but in that instance the contrarian would be a moron.
Last season we played the best football anyone has seen in close to 30 years, lost arguably the 3rd best player in the world, lost his striker partner to injury and one of their replacements was injured for the start of the season.
We still managed to turn things around after a brutal start and went on a superb run playing some amazing football, all without a recognised striker.
Yes we got well beaten by a Utd who themselves have come into form and then we lost at Arsenal who are beating everyone.
We were sh*te in the FA Cup semi final but that shouldn't mean we get rid of Rodgers.
He deserves another season at least!
Can we have a 'Dreamy vs Ryan' forum? It makes me smile and Dreamy has improved in the last few months I have to say.
If that's your mantra why even bother watching football. Just check the winners list at the end of each season and if we are on it praise the manager.
If we aren't bin him off.
You were creaming yourself just as much as anyone last season and to say it all counts for nothing because we came up just short is bullshit of the highest order.
Even for you.
Sure, but how long are we gonna hang our hat on playing great football last year and coming close?
It doesn't put any trophies in the cabinet, and it seems like a long way given the tripe we've been served this year.
More and more, last year's great form is becoming the aberration in the Rodgers reign. Much as I don't want it to be the case.
At least another season. The man deserves that. I think he has learned you cannot go completely gun ho against everyone and as a result we don't blow teams away as much as we did. However we have gotten some mighty impressive results all the same. We still need a lot of work defensively but again we have improved in that area. Granted we needed to.
If we go the same way again next season I can see the logic in looking elsewhere but right now it seems like a very rash decision.
Don't forget the tripe as you called it this year included;
1 defeat in 17 league games stretching over 6 months
Superb displays and wins against
City
Spurs twice
Southampton twice
And a trip to Wembley.
If you ignore last years an aberration and we eventually finish 5th, then it's an improvement.. from 7th to 5th.
And when you look at what we spend and our wage bill, WE SHOULD be getting 5th. There are 4 other sides spending significantly more in transfer and/or wage bills that expect to be finishing in the top 4.
Finishing higher than 5th is overachieving given the amount we invest.
This whole, "sack Rodgers cos he talks too much, hire Klopp" is just very kneejerk. He's made mistakes. He hasn't spent every penny wisely, sure. But some of the transfers, the jury is still out (Fellani and Mata were shite last year apparently, what has Di Maria done yet that's worth 60m?). Let's give Rodgers time and some backing. Maybe he'll turn it around. That's what we all want? More so than the want to say "i told you so", right?
And when you look at what we spend and our wage bill, WE SHOULD be getting 5th. There are 4 other sides spending significantly more in transfer and/or wage bills that expect to be finishing in the top 4.
Finishing higher than 5th is overachieving given the amount we invest.
This whole, "sack Rodgers cos he talks too much, hire Klopp" is just very kneejerk. He's made mistakes. He hasn't spent every penny wisely, sure. But some of the transfers, the jury is still out (Fellani and Mata were shite last year apparently, what has Di Maria done yet that's worth 60m?). Let's give Rodgers time and some backing. Maybe he'll turn it around. That's what we all want? More so than the want to say "i told you so", right?
There is a lot to be said for just "doing an Arsenal" and keeping up with the rest of the pack but winning nothing. It keeps you up there and leaves open the possibility that at some point you can establish yourselves again.
With every chance we get to re-establish ourselves missed, it feels like we're drifting further and further away.
With every chance we get to re-establish ourselves missed, it feels like we're drifting further and further away.
I'm partway through listening to the Football Weekly podcast and Amy Lawrence has made a few points about BR that might be worth musing on. She said that in mitigation the only real Suarez alternative we had a chance of getting was Sanchez and he chose Arsenal, that we couldn't have known how badly Sturridge would suffer from injuries/psychological trauma this season; that our signings have pretty much all struggled to adapt beyond what might reasonably be expected. She's basically said whilst BR hasn't made the best of his resources (particularly with regards Rickie Lambert), he's been dealt a shitty hand.
Not sure whether I buy all this, but it was an interesting viewpoint from someone who isn't a Liverpool fan. Barry Glendenning has just said he thinks BR has no future here and I had to switch the podcast off at that point because I'd got to work.
Not sure whether I buy all this, but it was an interesting viewpoint from someone who isn't a Liverpool fan. Barry Glendenning has just said he thinks BR has no future here and I had to switch the podcast off at that point because I'd got to work.
Yeah true I'd forgotten about the amazing wins over Southampton.
Pretty sure that cunt Hodgson would have managed to not win anything in three years.
The point is, Dreamy, that he saw his team choke in the title race, the league cup semi final and the FA cup semi final. Three successive chances, three successive feck ups.
That would have been utopia.
Am I sick when I actually enjoy reading Ryan and DB argue than most of the threads in here ??
We were very lucky to be leading at half time against southampton away. Only poor refereeing decisions and bad finishing (plus a wonder goal from Coutinho and great keeping from mignolet) had us in front. In the second half they ran out of steam and it was a very good result but hardly a superb display.
It wasn't much different against southampton at home when we were far from convincing.
It wasn't much different against southampton at home when we were far from convincing.
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