Push Overs

[ILD]

I'm pro the signing of Milner as it adds a bit of much needed 'fight' to our team. Something that is clearly missing from our side last season. The loss of Suarez and the continued aging of Gerrard left us soft and a bit spineless. Our keeper was even afraid of the actual ball for a couple of months. Teams simply out fought us all over the pitch. In the last decade we always had players who were willing to fight for the jersey (i.e. Reina, Carragher, Hyppia, Alonso, Mascherano, Gerrard, Kuyt, Bellamy, Suarez etc).

To quote Rodgers "I believe a young player will run through a barbed wire fence for you. An older player looks for a hole in the fence.”

What can we do to address this? Buy more players who possess the winning mentality needed to drag us kicking and screaming over the line? Motivate our current players? Henderson, Skrtel, Lallana, Coutinho and Sahko at least seems to care. It's a start I suppose.

*awaits a gkmacca installment of Grit and Steel.

 

[Mystic]

Yeh, we definitely need this, we're in danger of becoming Arsenal without the flair. Milner is a good start, but really we need a another Suarez, another super talented striker with an obsession with winning, I don't know who out there fits that bill.

 

[gkmacca]

*awaits a gkmacca installment of Grit and Steel.

Spoil sport! 😀

 

[Skullflower]

Maybe we should sign joey Barton

 

[davud graham]

More quality players in their mid twenties would help i think. Young players sometimes look to the older heads in the team for direction when things aren't going well and a lot of the time our team is packed with too many young players that haven't won anything.

 

[ILD]

Maybe we should sign joey Barton

If we just needed someone to come in and break some jaws then we'd get you in Skully. It's not about that.

 

[gkmacca]

I'm not sure you can instil it, at least at this level. I've said before that we should be trying to encourage it at lower age levels, and currently we're not - Rodgers has shifted the emphasis from winning games to cultivating technique so far that our youth teams just don't feel bad enough about defeats. The idea is good but it's been taken to an extreme.

I suspect at senior level the players have either got it or they haven't. If you put some threat over them, like relegation, most players will push themselves, but across a whole season it's down to their basic mentality. We need a Bellamy type in there - and, come to think of it, Bellers would surely be well worth giving a chance on the coaching staff. The fans like him, he's been supportive of Rodgers, he loves the club and he's just the aggressive presence that some of these players need.

 

[Skullflower]

Maybe we should get joey Barton as a coach

 

[Grjt2]

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I'm not sure you can instil it, at least at this level. I've said before that we should be trying to encourage it at lower age levels, and currently we're not - Rodgers has shifted the emphasis from winning games to cultivating technique so far that our youth teams just don't feel bad enough about defeats. The idea is good but it's been taken to an extreme.

I suspect at senior level the players have either got it or they haven't. If you put some threat over them, like relegation, most players will push themselves, but across a whole season it's down to their basic mentality. We need a Bellamy type in there - and, come to think of it, Bellers would surely be well worth giving a chance on the coaching staff. The fans like him, he's been supportive of Rodgers, he loves the club and he's just the aggressive presence that some of these players need.

This is definitely one of my main gripes with Rodgers - lets accept that there isn't a clear alternative out there and that he's staying, he has GOT to improve the quality (and diversify the personalities) on his coaching staff. Having never been anywhere near Europe thinking he could go in there with his mate from Swansea and a mediocre youth coach (plus a bunch of bright lads on laptops) is even beyond the egotism he displays on a day to day basis.... its even more frustrating than his "I thought we were outstanding" response in literally every post match interview....

 

[ILD]

I'm not sure you can instil it, at least at this level. I've said before that we should be trying to encourage it at lower age levels, and currently we're not - Rodgers has shifted the emphasis from winning games to cultivating technique so far that our youth teams just don't feel bad enough about defeats. The idea is good but it's been taken to an extreme.

I suspect at senior level the players have either got it or they haven't. If you put some threat over them, like relegation, most players will push themselves, but across a whole season it's down to their basic mentality. We need a Bellamy type in there - and, come to think of it, Bellers would surely be well worth giving a chance on the coaching staff. The fans like him, he's been supportive of Rodgers and he's just the aggressive presence that some of these players need

Mourinho for example seemed capable of instilling this mentality into his players. Perhaps they already had that mentality engrained within them. I remember Geremi stating he would 'kill' for his manager. Zlatan, Essien and Materazzi have stated similar.

Definitely agree about appointing Bellamy in some capacity.

 

[ILD]

*awaits a gkmacca installment of Grit and Steel.

We have 'Grjt' posting, now we just need Steel.

 

[leftpeg]

If I could bring one player back from the glory days of the 70s and 80s it would be Souness. We had better players (though not many) but he was just the nasty fucker we need now.

 

[gkmacca]

We have 'Grjt' posting, now we just need Steel.

Grjt, Staël, git your sorry Dutch asses in here!

 

[Frogfish]

Maybe we should sign joey Barton

Maybe we should sign Skully for the Pre-match and HT team talks !

*though have the team doctor on stand-by*

 

[ILD]

If I could bring one player back from the glory days of the 70s and 80s it would be Souness. We had better players (though not many) but he was just the nasty fucker we need now.

Suarez would do me peggy. His desire to win inspired others around him.

 

[leftpeg]

Suarez would do me peggy. His desire to win inspired others around him.

I wouldn't be against that idea!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Just play a half decent Red supporting kid from Crocky. Sorted.