Excellent post.
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Excellent post.
I think he's certainly having some trouble adapting, but quality will out. He also scores goals!
Too early to tell, he may just be taking time to settle in, alternatively he may be one of those players that isnt cut out to play in english football. Im still of the opinion its the former, hes a quality player and he hasnt had much game time in the last 18 months so his sharpness and pace were always likely to be off.
No doubting he's a quality player, but some players just aren't suited to the premiership. I've seen nothing from him so far that says he deserves to be in the first 11. He can't be showing much in training either. I'd rather we develop suso than waste anymore time with sahin.
Yeah I'll be interested to see how he does with Lucas helping to provide cover. He's a bit of an unlucky chap as well; thought he played well against Young Boys at Anfield, but then he was an unused sub in the next 3 league games. Then he gets back onto the pitch against Udinese, and breaks his nose in 11 minutes.
"I remember Glen Whelan gliding past him with ease"
As a Republic of Ireland fan, they are some damning words.
As a Republic of Ireland fan, they are some damning words.
Liverpool are weighing up a move to make Nuri Sahin's stay at the club a permanent switch.
The midfielder joined the Anfield club on a season-long loan from Real Madrid in a bid to gain regular first-team experience but has been restricted to just seven Premier League appearances.
Sahin recently returned to the Reds squad after undergoing surgery for a broken nose sustained during the decisive Europa League group game with Udinese earlier this month but has failed to feature in a domestic outing since an hour-long run-out in November's 1-1 draw at Chelsea.
But the 24-year-old could be set to stay and fight for his place at Liverpool with Madrid appearing unconvinced by his lack of opportunities since moving to England just three months ago, combined with an unspectacular debut season in the Spanish capital, where he made just 10 outings.
Under-fire Real boss Jose Mourinho had originally planned to use Sahin as a foil for former Borussia Dortmund team mate Mario Gotze, who was also part of their Bundesliga-winning side in 2011, should the reigning La Liga champions secure his signature but is understood to have since reconsidered.
It is a view shared by Bernabeu chiefs, who are prepared to cut their losses on the Turkey international barely 20 months since he arrived for a fee in the region of £8 million.
Despite approaching his mid-twenties, Sahin's permanent capture would be a move for longevity and echo that of winger Oussama Assaidi, also 24, who joined last summer from Heerenveen for £3 million.
However Madrid's determination to hold firm on their £14 million buyout clause for Sahin, whose current contract runs until 2017, in a bid to ensure a modest profit remains a key stumbling block.
http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1217971-liverpool-fc-eyeing-permanent-deal-for-real-madrid-loanee-nuri-sahin.html?#tThyl3Ch1rwZ25Q6.99
The midfielder joined the Anfield club on a season-long loan from Real Madrid in a bid to gain regular first-team experience but has been restricted to just seven Premier League appearances.
Sahin recently returned to the Reds squad after undergoing surgery for a broken nose sustained during the decisive Europa League group game with Udinese earlier this month but has failed to feature in a domestic outing since an hour-long run-out in November's 1-1 draw at Chelsea.
But the 24-year-old could be set to stay and fight for his place at Liverpool with Madrid appearing unconvinced by his lack of opportunities since moving to England just three months ago, combined with an unspectacular debut season in the Spanish capital, where he made just 10 outings.
Under-fire Real boss Jose Mourinho had originally planned to use Sahin as a foil for former Borussia Dortmund team mate Mario Gotze, who was also part of their Bundesliga-winning side in 2011, should the reigning La Liga champions secure his signature but is understood to have since reconsidered.
It is a view shared by Bernabeu chiefs, who are prepared to cut their losses on the Turkey international barely 20 months since he arrived for a fee in the region of £8 million.
Despite approaching his mid-twenties, Sahin's permanent capture would be a move for longevity and echo that of winger Oussama Assaidi, also 24, who joined last summer from Heerenveen for £3 million.
However Madrid's determination to hold firm on their £14 million buyout clause for Sahin, whose current contract runs until 2017, in a bid to ensure a modest profit remains a key stumbling block.
http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1217971-liverpool-fc-eyeing-permanent-deal-for-real-madrid-loanee-nuri-sahin.html?#tThyl3Ch1rwZ25Q6.99
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Maybe he'll have a better second half of the season, but at this point I'd help him pack his bags up and get on back to Madrid.
We are in a transition phase implementing a system based on passing the ball around, and this bundesliga winning la liga champion is behind Jamie C in the central midfield pecking order... something is very wrong!
I think he has more class than Shelvey, enough to sign on a permanent for the right price (which is not as much as those chisellers at the Bernabeu want), but to me Shelvey on his best form looks more effective than Sahin on his at the moment.
Different positions though Jules. Shelvey can change a game with his drive and determined nature, whereas sahin would simply evolve a game to our tempo.
Question isn't one or the other. Potentially could be a (granted not as good) alonso and Gerrard
Question isn't one or the other. Potentially could be a (granted not as good) alonso and Gerrard
They play in different positions so thy can play in the same line-up. Despite Shelvey playing like a twat I do think he has something about him. I'd like to see him play in his natural position as an attacking midfielder rather than in the deeper position he has been playing.
I doubt Sahin will want to stay though.
He has in the past.
I've expected more from him, but there's no denying his quality. At £8-10M he would be worth the risk, IMO, especially if he finishes this season strongly.
We should definitely sign him. He might have done nothing in (just) seven games for us, but so many people can't be wrong about him. Sign him.
I'm not judging him as its still early days. Just saying that I think that a lot of people are wanting him based on what he's done elsewhere. All I care about is what he does in a Liverpool shirt and right now it's been pretty shit. Yeah a few nice touches here and there, but currently he's done nothing to say that he's worth buying on a permanent basis. He's been lightweight and goes missing in games currently. He's done nothing to say he deserves to be in the team. Hopefully that will change in the second half of the season.
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