Not so Fab
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He’s been shit all season bar 2-3 games.
I think yesterday was as bad as I’ve seen from any midfield we’ve had ever….I’m talking Shelvey Poulsen Adam Spearing levels bad…first time I’ve ever wanted a ref to send a Liverpool player off.
Its not even a disgrace anymore, Gerrard in that legends game the other week is what Fab looks like now.
I think yesterday was as bad as I’ve seen from any midfield we’ve had ever….I’m talking Shelvey Poulsen Adam Spearing levels bad…first time I’ve ever wanted a ref to send a Liverpool player off.
Its not even a disgrace anymore, Gerrard in that legends game the other week is what Fab looks like now.
Klopp isn't gonna use a player he never wanted, another Ben Davies.
Making a point to the owners by saying you should've released the funds for Nunes (someone Klopp did want)
Put Fab at RB and push Trent up to midfield, he played there for Monaco previously. Let's get the elephant out of the room. One, whether Trent can cut it in midfield, two, whether Fab is still of any use. It can't be any worse. At the very least we would not spend next season and beyond arguing about whether Trent should play midfield.
We are not getting into the top 4 regardless.
We are not getting into the top 4 regardless.
So you would have
Fab----Konate----VVD-----Robbo
---------------Matip----Hendo-----------
--------------------Trent-------------------
Salah---------------------------------Jota
-------------------Nunez---------------------
Fab at CB has been tried years ago when he was a brilliant DM......quelle surprise it didn't work.
What makes you think it's worth trying out now?
Maybe in the 0.000001% chance we went to a 3 at the back we could do something similar to what Rodgers did with Can.
i don’t, personally i think he’s done but he’d be even more disastrous at fullback
Depends what his instructions are.
People talk about his legs being gone and all this, in essence yes but it's more than that because he never had pace to begin with.....he seems to have lost his marbles and sense of danger. He keeps lunging into tackles very high up the pitch and teams are just playing simple one two's around him and all a sudden he's finding himself having to "sprint" back 40 yards to catch up with the play. That's pretty much the same with Hendo.
They are ALWAYS caught too high upfield and teams easily play through/around them and then our CB's are left exposed....so they don't know whether to step up to close the space them donuts left behind or hold position.
I don't want Fabinho at RB or CB, we need to get rid of him.
If we are worried about Milner getting rinsed by tricky wingers when he deputizes for Trent, there's no reason to think Fabs will do any better.
Tell that to Klopp.....
The 1 thing he does still have is quality on the ball, he can still ping it about a bit and doesn't really give it away, and 1 of few players that's stayed fit all season so credit where it's due.
If we had good backup for him I'd expect us to have put him on an intense recover & rejuvenation type training programme, but instead we are just racking up more and more 90 min games into his legs.
If we could get money for him, i'd sell. But if we can't i'd like to see him rested with a gentle pre-season and given first 2 months of the season rested to see if he comes back fresh and hungry.
If we could get money for him, i'd sell. But if we can't i'd like to see him rested with a gentle pre-season and given first 2 months of the season rested to see if he comes back fresh and hungry.
The worst decline in the clubs history?
Torres springs to mind but I think that was more down to his sulky attitude (prior to leaving anyway)
I genuinely saw Fab as a world class DM between 2019-2022, maybe 2nd half of last season is when we started to see the signs but for 2.5 years there wasn't many in the world performing better Imo.
Torres springs to mind but I think that was more down to his sulky attitude (prior to leaving anyway)
I genuinely saw Fab as a world class DM between 2019-2022, maybe 2nd half of last season is when we started to see the signs but for 2.5 years there wasn't many in the world performing better Imo.
Fabinho's on 180k a week and has a contract till 2026. Sure plenty of Spanish or Italian teams would like him, but never on those wages. Fabinho will likely see out his contract here. To be honest, Fabinho can be quite valuable on a reduced role. The focus has to be get in a athletic young new DM who can cover ground in spades and protect the defence.
Perhaps not on those wages no but they may potentially be willing to offer a longer contract.....say 120k a week on a 5-6 year deal + various performance based bonuses.
Fucking hell is that true?! Jesus man, some of these contracts. Was anyone at the club not aware that footballers age? Often unpredictably quickly? Insane.
So I thought maybe it's just me and I have some sort of bias for Fabs but no ... searching the web for player ratings vs Leeds it seems it's mostly the usual crowd on 6CM that have it in for him. I thought he was OK yesterday and part of the reason we dominated midfield. Not one site rated him less than 6/10.
90 Mins : CM: Fabinho - 7/10 - Brought down Aaronson on the break for a booking. Broke up play when needed with no Leeds player strong enough to trouble him.
BBC Fans voting : 6.83
Redmen : 6/10
4th Official : CM: Fabinho – 7/10. The Brazilian talent anchored the midfield well and was good on the ball as well.
Sky : 6/10
Liverpool .com : 6/10
Eurosport : 8/10
Echo : 7/10
ESPN : MF Fabinho, 6 -- Quick to snuff out the danger and made it difficult for Leeds to have success in central areas. Could have closed down Brenden Aaronson earlier at a moment in the second half where the USMNT star was close with a long-range effort, but otherwise a positive game from Fabinho.
Anfield Index : Fabinho – 7.0. Kept his place as the holding midfielder, with an air of consistency being sought by our German manager. Looked less exposed with Trent beside him and was neat and tidy in his first half of work. Was pretty stationary in the middle of the pitch, as the second half saw the game flow all across the ground.
Infogol : 6.07
TIA : 7/10 This is still a far cry from the Fabinho of old, but thankfully, his form in recent weeks has been improved. He did a good job at the heart of the Reds’ midfield, even if he still looks a yard slower than he was, and he used the ball intelligently.
Goal : 6/10
Anfield Wrap : 7/10
90 Mins : CM: Fabinho - 7/10 - Brought down Aaronson on the break for a booking. Broke up play when needed with no Leeds player strong enough to trouble him.
BBC Fans voting : 6.83
Redmen : 6/10
4th Official : CM: Fabinho – 7/10. The Brazilian talent anchored the midfield well and was good on the ball as well.
Sky : 6/10
Liverpool .com : 6/10
Eurosport : 8/10
Echo : 7/10
ESPN : MF Fabinho, 6 -- Quick to snuff out the danger and made it difficult for Leeds to have success in central areas. Could have closed down Brenden Aaronson earlier at a moment in the second half where the USMNT star was close with a long-range effort, but otherwise a positive game from Fabinho.
Anfield Index : Fabinho – 7.0. Kept his place as the holding midfielder, with an air of consistency being sought by our German manager. Looked less exposed with Trent beside him and was neat and tidy in his first half of work. Was pretty stationary in the middle of the pitch, as the second half saw the game flow all across the ground.
Infogol : 6.07
TIA : 7/10 This is still a far cry from the Fabinho of old, but thankfully, his form in recent weeks has been improved. He did a good job at the heart of the Reds’ midfield, even if he still looks a yard slower than he was, and he used the ball intelligently.
Goal : 6/10
Anfield Wrap : 7/10
It did work. He had a better record than most of our CBs when forced to stand in there. Not that I'd put him there now.
What CB's Froggy? They were all injured.
Didn't see it that way, once we put Nat back there and moved Fab back into DM we went on that mad run which got us 3rd...something we wouldn't have achieved if that change wasn't made.
Of course removing Fabs from midfield hurt us - but as you said we didn't have any CBs and Fabs indisputably played well there.
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