Nobody is playing for Klopp anymore
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If he has, do you suggest we sack him?
I think there are a million factors, but the end result probably isn't far away from that, our morale has hit an all time low but it's been a combination of things. He needs to rebuild, but he needs backing. Everyone knows Firmino is past his best, there are obvious concerns over central defense and it's doubtful whether two cheap punts will solve that issue. That said, Klopp has made some alarming decisions this season. Best centre back of late is dropped, two new defenders available, but he goes with two midfielders at centre half. We look like City did last season and like how they did when they too were forced to play midfielders in defense.
If you don't trust your squad then it breeds resentment in the dressing room, that's pretty much where we are.
I think the current run shows how much they matter
Nah
I guess city fans were saying the same thing last season.
Laporte had a long injury and they didn't replace the outgoing Kompany, and they struggled as a result.
Laporte had a long injury and they didn't replace the outgoing Kompany, and they struggled as a result.
Think he is losing his cool too often and coming out with silly comments tbh....
But we will be back no worries about that, Klopp is a legend and when we are back to full strength things will turn around.
Don't underestimate the lack of rest this team has had over 2/3 years....
Any dumbass Liverpool fan can turn on the team and manager but that's not the Liverpool way
But we will be back no worries about that, Klopp is a legend and when we are back to full strength things will turn around.
Don't underestimate the lack of rest this team has had over 2/3 years....
Any dumbass Liverpool fan can turn on the team and manager but that's not the Liverpool way
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Everton recorded their 5th consecutive Premier League away game for the first time since 1970.
Man Utd achieved a club record 18 Premier League away games unbeaten.
Liverpool lost three home games in a row for the first time in Premier League history, worse home run since 1963.
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Absence of fans a crucial factor
Everton recorded their 5th consecutive Premier League away game for the first time since 1970.
Man Utd achieved a club record 18 Premier League away games unbeaten.
Liverpool lost three home games in a row for the first time in Premier League history, worse home run since 1963.
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Absence of fans a crucial factor
I'd rather try to get rid of a few players and add some new blood got the squad first.
And if that doesn't help, then sack him before we go like Dortmund did.
I think this is a bit kneejerk.
I'm sure if some of y'all were City fans, you'd have sacked Pep last year too because he apparently had lost the dressing room.
They were saying the same about him last year and then at the beginning of the season.
Funny how results change the narrative.
What's clear is our gengen hype football is not built for a Covid season where you have little preseason, multiple injuries and very little rest between games to recharge batteries.
I'm sure if some of y'all were City fans, you'd have sacked Pep last year too because he apparently had lost the dressing room.
They were saying the same about him last year and then at the beginning of the season.
Funny how results change the narrative.
What's clear is our gengen hype football is not built for a Covid season where you have little preseason, multiple injuries and very little rest between games to recharge batteries.
No, city have never had this kind of injury crisis in the back.
If we were only missing vvd, wed be in a different position imo
This.
I like klopp's presser
I couldn't stomach it, I had to just switch off at the final whistle. What did he say?
I totally agree with this Mark, and it’s felt that way for a while. We’ve done little tweaks here and there, but it’s really felt like more than a brief freshen up has been required for a while. The lack of movement up front, and previously the aimless lashing of the ball into the box suggests the coaching staff have been a little reticent to make interventions on a player-by-player basis, so maybe something more wholesale is required at least until the first XI is 100% fit again
He said in parts we’d played excellent football
A few hours later this thread will be 10 pages long from people who did bite. We never learn.
And 20 pages if someone mentions lasagna.
Tough patch, that we will get through it.
Wants the fans to still believe, even if its tough.
That the players will get this right
Oh lasagna ♡
I've always said, football is cyclic, there's no definitive winning way, styles come and go because teams get found out, you have an ethos and that's fine, but there has to be some learning curve that allows your team to grow and to adapt to certain things. Jota was a great addition and will hopefully come back strong, but he fits the jigsaw, he's a perfect like-for-like alternative to Salah or Mane. The issue is we are then heavily reliant on the Firmino "system", which is a crucial part of how our attack has functioned for the last few years. Now that part has clearly started to decline and have a lesser impact, there doesn't seem to be a solution on the horizon. When Firmino goes off, our alternative is to then throw on Origi who offers none of the same finesse nor is he an alternative solution. He should be a battering ram, but he's repeatedly shown he lacks the desire or required skillset to make a difference, yet we still keep persevering with him as an option, knowing his ratio of impacting on games is next to nothing.
Teams have exploited weaknesses in our system all season. Trent is still, after all this time, an area that sides target and often get success from, we don't have a viable alternative to him. Gerrard was moved into midfield by the same time in his progression and I still feel that this should have happened with Trent. We probably then wouldn't have needed a Keita or a Thiago. Buy a solid right back and play the boy to his strengths.
Klopp has my sympathy to a degree, Fabinho, Henderson and Thiago would have been a formidable midfield this season, Jota added depth and quality to the front line. The only area of concern was defense. We all knew this, the owners knew this, yet we sold Lovren and gambled heavily on two injury prone players staying fit. It's the flip side of our financial cleverness, for every moneyball masterstroke, there's the periods where we need to just break the bank and don't (probably because we haven't sold big). That's a real travesty on the back of winning the league, the Champions League and the FIFA Club World Cup. To then arrive at a situation where our hand is forced and we have to take a punt on a couple of "maybes" is seriously worrying.
Thiago on a free, one big-ish signing and that's it, on the back of all that success. As Keni said a few weeks back, if people think we're going anywhere spending £7m on a Minamino type player, they need a reality check. We've compounded that with the left back we've barely seen and these two young lads at centre half, all for buttons.
City quite clearly aren't shitting themselves.
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