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SummerOnions

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He needs a slap for some of these comments
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Fabio Borini says he has no regrets about staying at Liverpool as he insisted: “I still believe I can be a success here.”
The Italian striker was advised by Brendan Rodgers to move on last summer but he snubbed moves to both Sunderland and Queens Park Rangers.
Borini has found himself on the fringes of the Reds’ squad for most of the campaign - making just four starts and nine substitute appearances in all competitions. His 479 minutes of action have failed to yield a single goal.
But the 23-year-old frontman, who made his first Premier League start for four months in last weekend’s 1-0 win at Sunderland, is adamant that remaining at Anfield was the right decision for him. And he has ruled out going anywhere during the January transfer window.
“I’ve never regretted staying here,” Borini told the ECHO.
“Yes, I could have left but I wanted to stay at Liverpool and I’m glad I did.
“To be honest, going back to last summer, I didn’t expect to play as much as I have done so far.
“With Daniel Sturridge’s injuries, I’ve played more than I expected. I think I’ve done okay.
“I probably should have scored a couple of goals from the few chances I’ve had but I’m quite happy with my season so far.
“I won’t be leaving this month either. I started the last game and I don’t see any reason why I would need to change clubs. I see it as all positive for me.”
Liverpool were keen last summer to grasp the opportunity to make a profit on the £10.4million they paid Roma for Borini.
The Reds agreed a £14million deal with Sunderland and then a £13million package with QPR. However, on both occasions the player held talks but opted to stay put – despite Rodgers’ warnings about a bit-part role.
Borini was heavily criticised for being happy to sit on the sidelines and collect his wages.
But he has hit back at suggestions his decision demonstrated either a lack of ambition or motivation. Borini insists despite the offer of regular first-team football elsewhere, he simply wasn’t prepared to wave goodbye to life at one of Europe’s biggest clubs.
“The reason I said no to the clubs who wanted to sign me was that I wanted to play for a top four club,” he said.
“I wanted to play in the Champions League and in the biggest European competitions.
“I don’t think you can blame any player for having that kind of ambition.
“For me it was all about what I want to achieve in the future with my life.
“I took into account my football and also my personal life (he’s engaged to Liverpool model Erin O’Neill).
“That’s why I decided to stay at Liverpool. I have no regrets. This is what I want.
“It was never about money. If that was my motivation then I would have left for Dubai and I’d be playing football over there. (- Is that a shot at Assaidi?)
“I never looked at money. It was only ever about football and my ambitions. I still believe I can be a success at Liverpool.”
Borini was Rodgers’ first signing after he took over at Anfield in the summer of 2012.
The Northern Irishman had worked with him previously at Swansea when he took him on loan from Chelsea.
Borini scored on his home Liverpool debut against Gomel but endured a difficult first season with a broken foot and then a dislocated shoulder limiting him to just 20 appearances.
With Daniel Sturridge and Luis Suarez for competition, he was sent to Sunderland on a season-long loan last term. He proved a big hit as he netted 10 goals in the North East but always intended to return to Anfield and force his way back into Rodgers’ plans.
His Reds career currently consists of 32 outings spread across two and a half years, and he has scored just two goals for the club – the last of which was at St James’ Park back in April 2013.
“I’ve never had a full season here,” Borini said.
“In my first year here I was unlucky with injuries.
“I wasn’t able to really prove myself and then in the second year I went out on loan.
This is really the season for me. Yes, I haven’t played much, I don’t know why, but that’s not up to me.
“I’m working hard every day to show the manager that I can help. I want to prove myself here.”
Borini’s burning desire to impress got him in hot water before Christmas when he was sent off against Arsenal. Within 16 minutes of coming off the bench, he picked up two yellow cards – the first for kicking the ball away and the second for a reckless lunge on Santi Cazorla.
“I had too much energy that day,” he said.
“I was excited to play. I wanted to come on and turn the game.
“I didn’t have enough control of my emotions. That’s why the red card was shown to me.
“I’ve never got red cards before. I think it was down to frustration and wanting to do well having not played so much. It happened and I’ve learned from it.”
Last weekend was a step in the right direction for Borini, who led the line at the Stadium of Light. He hadn’t started in the league since September’s trip to Upton Park.
“It’s never easy to get into it when you haven’t started many games because you aren’t used to the rhythm and the tempo of the game,” he said.
“There is also the emotion that you have when you play a game. I love football and when I got that chance to play I really wanted to take it.
“It was great to be part of it and to help the team get a win to keep this run going.
“That’s what I work for every day – to try to show I deserve to start matches.”
Borini is desperate to keep his place for Saturday’s Premier League trip to Aston Villa as the Reds look to step up their charge for Champions League qualification. Given an extended run in the side, he’s convinced he will win over the doubters.
“Trying to get a consistent spell in the team is the key for me,” he added.
“I hope to play against Villa and I just need that one goal to start me off - maybe one which hits my back and goes in.
“If I am consistent in my work and show that to my team-mates and the manager I’m sure I’ll get the run I want.”

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Who wants to bet he isn't even on the bench tomorrow?
 
He talks like he plays - as if he's been hit round the head with an iron bar.

To be honest, going back to last summer, I didn’t expect to play as much as I have done so far.
“With Daniel Sturridge’s injuries, I’ve played more than I expected.


This is really the season for me. Yes, I haven’t played much, I don’t know why, but that’s not up to me.


You'd probably get more progress coaching the cat.
 
He has the right ambition and I believe he means well and wants to make it here. It's just a pity he hasn't realised yet that he's shit.
 
He's a weird guy, he comes across sometimes as a salt of the earth, work-hard, yet his discipline on the pitch seems pretty atrocious at times, maybe he's trying too hard? I don't know, he seems to have low expectations for himself (I've played more than I thought I would?!), so he basically stayed on the understanding he'd play even less than the half dozen fleeting appearances he's made, and he's happy with that? It seems as if he's content to fuck up his career to prove a point. A point that's seemingly lost on everyone.
 
I would still give him a run of games until Sturridge and Lallana come back, because he is the most mobile and hard-working of our non-scoring strikers.
 
At least now we can blame "Liverpool Model" Erin O'Neill.
 
..... and after googling said Ms O''Neil.... I can kinda understand
 
@SummerOnions
He's not good enough and he can feck off thinking he's had a decent season when he hasn't even scored a goal, but he hasn't said much wrong bar that. I'd slap him for not scoring any goals. I wouldn't slap him for wanting to play CL football, wanting to play for top 4 club or saying he isn't motivated by money.
 
Awful signing

Yep. Was there ever a time when we were excited about Fabio or has he been a let down from day one?

I remember him playing on the wing against United once and he just wasn't cutting it. He did show some nice movement at times (for us and Italy U-21's) and I naively convinced myself that he looked a clever player who was just unlucky with an early injury with us. His boss celebration also won me over. Pity we rarely see it.
 
We just shouldn't sign Italian players. From 5 players I count (Borini, Dossena, Aquilani, Padelli and Mario) the best moment we've had from them was Dossena putting the icing on the cake at old trafford....and even then the game was already won. Obviously it's a sweeping generalisation but at roughly 53 million for these 5 (well 4 really as Padelli was only on looaaaaan) Italy has a lot of making up to do with us.
 
Sticking 4 past those cunts at OT, while that cunt was still in charge is worth every penny we spent.
 
Never has such a boss celebration been so callously wasted by a players ability
It was funny as fuck when he scored in the next match after the Suarez bitey thing.

He outraged the entire pub I was watching it in while me and a few other Liverpool fans were roaring laughing.
 
@SummerOnions
He's not good enough and he can feck off thinking he's had a decent season when he hasn't even scored a goal, but he hasn't said much wrong bar that. I'd slap him for not scoring any goals. I wouldn't slap him for wanting to play CL football, wanting to play for top 4 club or saying he isn't motivated by money.

Yeah but being happy as a striker despite not scoring and it being January is a hell of a statement! All the rest of it is fine but i keep reading that like

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We just shouldn't sign Italian players. From 5 players I count (Borini, Dossena, Aquilani, Padelli and Mario) the best moment we've had from them was Dossena putting the icing on the cake at old trafford....and even then the game was already won. Obviously it's a sweeping generalisation but at roughly 53 million for these 5 (well 4 really as Padelli was only on looaaaaan) Italy has a lot of making up to do with us.
That goal aside and the one vs Real - Dossena was the shittest player I've ever seen in the flesh at Anfield. He was so bad the opposing fans were clapping him. A fact not lost on those fans around me who could not help but laugh. He couldn't pass, tackle, run properly - Nada! I think he picked up a yellow card and gave away a foul throw as well. I honestly can't remember who it was against (I think we won though) Goppingly shite!
 
That goal aside and the one vs Real - Dossena was the shittest player I've ever seen in the flesh at Anfield. He was so bad the opposing fans were clapping him. A fact not lost on those fans around me who could not help but laugh. He couldn't pass, tackle, run properly - Nada! I think he picked up a yellow card and gave away a foul throw as well. I honestly can't remember who it was against (I think we won though) Goppingly shite!


It figures though.... he's currently plying his trade with Leyton Orient
 
I don't really understand why everyone is so annoyed at him. His season, like all of our forwards, has been mediocre, but even after kindof promising displays, when our other options have been invisible, or awful, he hasn't played consistently.

Brendan clearly thinks the same as some of you, and I think its coloured his judgment. It's not as though I think if he was played more consistently that he'd all of a sudden start shitting goals, but I think there's more value to be had playing Borini, given how we play, than Lambert, the vast majority of the time. Getting Borini to a better level, no matter how middling, could raise his value for a sale, while helping us, whereas I see no such value in persisting with Lambert, who is inexorably in the decline.

I can't really bring myself to champion him, even as a devils advocate, so I can't imagine how you all can bring yourself to care about where he thinks he's at.
 
I don't really understand why everyone is so annoyed at him. His season, like all of our forwards, has been mediocre, but even after kindof promising displays, when our other options have been invisible, or awful, he hasn't played consistently.

Brendan clearly thinks the same as some of you, and I think its coloured his judgment. It's not as though I think if he was played more consistently that he'd all of a sudden start shitting goals, but I think there's more value to be had playing Borini, given how we play, than Lambert, the vast majority of the time. Getting Borini to a better level, no matter how middling, could raise his value for a sale, while helping us, whereas I see no such value in persisting with Lambert, who is inexorably in the decline.

I can't really bring myself to champion him, even as a devils advocate, so I can't imagine how you all can bring yourself to care about where he thinks he's at.


I think he's a pretty limited player but still recognize that we'd have probably been better off playing him more regularly over the likes of Lambert this season.

The problem I have is that every time I watch him play I just see 14M and the potential of that money missed.
 
That last bit's the crucial bit IMO in understanding the stick he's taking. My bet is he's been getting it in the neck more because of having turned down that move than because of what he can/can't do if selected.
 
If he could even score 5 goals this second half of the season, I can see someone offering us about 8 million for him in the summer. That's the best we can hope from this situation. Losing out on that 14 million from Sunderland really stings though.
 
If he could even score 5 goals this second half of the season, I can see someone offering us about 8 million for him in the summer. That's the best we can hope from this situation. Losing out on that 14 million from Sunderland really stings though.

Dmish - wasn't it you who said you liked his ability after that goal against Newcastle? I really don't think the player is that bad - and though he's had a rough time proving himself (Remember HEnderson with ROdgers), perhaps he can still contribute (as you say 5 goals) and become an active part of the squad rotation. He's a pretty good finisher, and yes, we lost out 14 million, but we just have to move on unfortunately (like 35 mill on the horsey)
 
Dmish - wasn't it you who said you liked his ability after that goal against Newcastle? I really don't think the player is that bad - and though he's had a rough time proving himself (Remember HEnderson with ROdgers), perhaps he can still contribute (as you say 5 goals) and become an active part of the squad rotation. He's a pretty good finisher, and yes, we lost out 14 million, but we just have to move on unfortunately (like 35 mill on the horsey)

No I've never been a fan. Someone who doesn't have great physical attributes really needs to be technically above-par to succeed. Borini's touch and technique are decidedly average.

Kuyt had much better technique. He also had a tenacity that I don't see in Borini (yet).
 
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