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Moyes - I am Legend

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Quote today from Moyes, who maintains he was the right man for the job after Ferguson's departure, having led Everton from the lower reaches of the Premier League into European contention..

"What my time at Manchester United gave me is an unbelievable idea of what it is at the top. I believe that's where I can work and that's where I should be working, and my level is that."

"You don't get offered those big jobs - Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United - for no reason," he told several national newspapers.

We believe you where treated unfairly too m8.. very unfairly..


Legend...
 
Moyes never stood a chance at the Manchester Reds. He isn't a good enough manager, he was left an awful squad and fans' expectations were sky high.


It was funny to watch, though. Fingers crossed that Mourinho can continue his personal downward spiral from last year.
 
He clearly hasn't thought through the implications of what he's saying, which are either that he reckons Sunderland are at that level or that he doesn't and will be offski as soon as a job at one of those clubs comes along again (don't all laugh at once).

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
 
Moyes never stood a chance at the Manchester Reds. He isn't a good enough manager, he was left an awful squad and fans' expectations were sky high.


It was funny to watch, though. Fingers crossed that Mourinho can continue his personal downward spiral from last year.

I reckon they knew whoever took over from Ferguson was going to at least seem to fail, pretty much regardless of circumstances. I also reckon any possible top-class candidates did, which is why none of them pushed for the job.
 
He clearly hasn't thought through the implications of what he's saying, which are either that he reckons Sunderland are at that level or that he doesn't and will be offski as soon as a job at one of those clubs comes along again (don't all laugh at once).

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.

He seemed to lose his touch for manipulating the media after his "People's Club" successes at The Bitters, because his interactions at United and afterwards were eye-gougingly terrible, and this is no different.

Just a (very) thinly-veiled moan about his treatment at United, with a self-satisfied justification of his appointment in the first place, and an obvious declaration of intent that he is almost certainly too good for Sunderland, but he'll do his best to get them back up to the sort of level they might be capable of before joining a club more suited to his lofty skillset and ambition.
 
I reckon they knew whoever took over from Ferguson was going to at least seem to fail, pretty much regardless of circumstances. I also reckon any possible top-class candidates did, which is why none of them pushed for the job.

Mourinho wanted it.
 
Mourinho wanted it.

I don't doubt that, but what I'm saying is he didn't really set his stall out to go after it, no six-page dossiers and the like. Obv.I have no inside track on this, but my guess would be that getting the job after Ferguson's successor failed was always his ultimate goal.
 
I reckon they knew whoever took over from Ferguson was going to at least seem to fail, pretty much regardless of circumstances. I also reckon any possible top-class candidates did, which is why none of them pushed for the job.

Moyes came with Ferguson's own seal of approval though and was given a six-year deal. Under those circumstances, there didn't appear to be anyone else in the running anyway, and I'm sure Moyes signed that deal thinking he had the full backing of the club. It didn't work out that way because, as you rightly said, it was tough job to take after Ferguson.


Regardless, there's a reason Manchester Utd are the only "big" club that David Moyes has managed.
 
I don't doubt that, but what I'm saying is he didn't really set his stall out to go after it, no six-page dossiers and the like. Obv.I have no inside track on this, but my guess would be that getting the job after Ferguson's successor failed was always his ultimate goal.

Allegedly - this is from a conversation with a Utd fan just now who had read a Duncan Castles' piece - Mourinho was lined up to replace Ferguson before he got the call to return to Chelsea. I think Castles was claiming that Mourinho was actually Ferguson's first choice.
 
You have to be a desperately shameless fool to use the mere fact of once being offered a job to talk up your abilities, and leave out any mention of the part about why your services were no longer required at the mighty Real Sociedad.
 
He clearly hasn't thought through the implications of what he's saying, which are either that he reckons Sunderland are at that level or that he doesn't and will be offski as soon as a job at one of those clubs comes along again (don't all laugh at once).

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
I know! It's glorious isn't it. I have a good mate that is a Sunderland fan. He's not a happy bunny at the moment 😀
 
He totally fucked up Real Sociedad and spent a fortune ( for them ) in the transfer market. What a muppet - it's one of the best places in the world to live, and success is measured by a mid table finish and a cup run and he couldn't manage it.
He was very very disparaging about the quality of the premier league in his Spanish interviews while out there too, which make him sound a bit of a loon in his recent spoutings.
 
I don't know why. It's hardly as if Moyes is a dramatic step DOWN from Allardyce.
I think it's more the embarrassing quotes. I don't know about you Macca but I have always found Sunderland fans to have a whiff of delusional grandeur about them. My mate is sound but for some reason (utterly lost on me) he seems to think that the black cats are a big team.

Then again I have another mate that supports Lincoln Town and he thinks the same. Tribalism huh! 😉
 
When your manager spends his time talking up his previous jobs, it's either because he's an insecure fool who's out of his depth, or has no respect for his current employers. Either way, it can only end badly.

It's a Hodgson trademark.
 
When your manager spends his time talking up his previous jobs, it's either because he's an insecure fool who's out of his depth, or has no respect for his current employers. Either way, it can only end badly.

It's a Hodgson trademark.
Thats a bit unfair to Hodgson.... After all he had been to Malmø, Viking Stavanger and Neuchatel if I am not mistaken? Moyes however...
 
I don't know why. It's hardly as if Moyes is a dramatic step DOWN from Allardyce.

I suppose the fact that he's now England manager maybe caused some ill-advised illusions of grandeur.

I'd love to know who they think Sunderland should have brought in

Mind you. As well as Fat Sam England Manager, Benitez is Newcastle manager. In the second division.

All bets are off
 
I think it's more the embarrassing quotes. I don't know about you Macca but I have always found Sunderland fans to have a whiff of delusional grandeur about them. My mate is sound but for some reason (utterly lost on me) he seems to think that the black cats are a big team.

I did not know that. Actually I don't think I know ANYONE, personally, from Sunderland! I just think of the club, like I do Middlesborough, as one of those maddeningly obdurate clubs that never do anything but always seem to give us a hard game away. And now both of the buggers are in the league!
 
I thought David Moyes was entirely right for United and still do. He has unfinished business there. That club will rue the day it made the mistake of letting him go.
 
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