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Sheik Yerbouti

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Anyone watching it? I quite liked him at first, probably because he broke The Scum's hold on the title, but he's quite clearly motivated by his anger and hatred of Barcelona. Clearly passionate about the game but a great big obnoxious cheating prick.
 
I watched the highlights of the Real-Ajax game last night on ESPN. He's putting on weight the fat cunt.
 
Recording it, I'll watch it in the morning. Is it any good? The Messi one is on after that I'm more interested in.
 
Mors said:
Recording it, I'll watch it in the morning. Is it any good? The Messi one is on after that I'm more interested in.
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Yeah it's a good watch. Don't like the cunt at all but you can't fail to be impressed.
 
didn't see this but from day one i've always thought he's been more motivated by this need to prove everyone wrong and stick it up them rather than just wanting success for normal positive reasons . Who "everyone " is i'm not quite sure .

And he can stick his "this is for the fans , i throw my medals in the crowd cause i don't care " up his arse .
 
The thing is, apart from being an excellent man manager (as is that scottish unmentionable twat) he must have some bloody amazing tactical technical nous about him, as he wins the league wherever he goes, with different coaching staff.
I like him, I think he's brilliant. I know he's arrogant, but I think he's deserved it, he's that good.
I'd love him to come here, obviously it'd take us to be bought out by an oil sheik, and hell freezing over, but I think he'd put us back to our rightful perch.
I have severe worries that he goes to the scum. There dominance would just continue ad infinitum. And knowing our luck, they'd get bought out by someone like abramovic he didn't mind giving them a 100mill to spend every summer. I just hope all the planets dont allign, and he goes somewhere else 6-12months before the old bastard retires/croaks it and he doesn't go there.

I think he'll leave Madrid this summer if they don't win the champs league. But I presume he'd need the manager of one of these 4 to go before he moved - scum, city, chelsea, psg.
 
Mors said:
The thing is, apart from being an excellent man manager (as is that scottish unmentionable twat) he must have some bloody amazing tactical technical nous about him, as he wins the league wherever he goes, with different coaching staff.
I like him, I think he's brilliant. I know he's arrogant, but I think he's deserved it, he's that good.
I'd love him to come here, obviously it'd take us to be bought out by an oil sheik, and hell freezing over, but I think he'd put us back to our rightful perch.
I have severe worries that he goes to the scum. There dominance would just continue ad infinitum. And knowing our luck, they'd get bought out by someone like abramovic he didn't mind giving them a 100mill to spend every summer. I just hope all the planets dont allign, and he goes somewhere else 6-12months before the old bastard retires/croaks it and he doesn't go there.

I think he'll leave Madrid this summer if they don't win the champs league. But I presume he'd need the manager of one of these 4 to go before he moved - scum, city, chelsea, psg.
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He also has the stunning knack of being at the right club at the right time. He chooses his moves very wisely.
 
like said before , he's a specialist manager who gets great results quickly with top quality players .

I guess the greatest credit he should get is for winning the champions league with Porto , although even then it's not as if he had shite players at his disposal , many from that team continued having top careers .

It would be interesting if he tried to manage a team without all those financial resources or a team rebuilding . Like could he take over us , Arsenal even AC Milan and coach them back to the top ? I doubt he'll even try .
 
RedZeppelin III said:
like said before , he's a specialist manager who gets great results quickly with top quality players .

I guess the greatest credit he should get is for winning the champions league with Porto , although even then it's not as if he had shite players at his disposal , many from that team continued having top careers .

It would be interesting if he tried to manage a team without all those financial resources or a team rebuilding . Like could he take over us , Arsenal even AC Milan and coach them back to the top ? I doubt he'll even try .
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I don't know, he's got me convinced. I can't see how we're any worse than Porto team-wise and financially-wise, and he won the league and champs league with them.
 
Hands down the best manager around.

You can say he picks his moves wisely but Christ look at this record.

He went to Chelsea won 2 titles and nobody has been able to get them close to that sort of form in the league since he left. Chelsea really has become an almost impossible job. And if you think of the CL he probably would have won it there if not for Rafa's Liverpool.

He then went to Inter to a team who strolled the domestic league but bombed out over and over in the CL. What does he do? He goes and wins the treble beating the mighty Barca along the way.

What next? He goes to the club with the biggest expectations in the world Madrid. At the time a million miles behind Barca and within 2 years he gets them the title back.

The man maybe arrogant but fuck me he deserves to be. I pray he doesn't go to Utd ever!
 
fuck dreamy , you can take his dick out of your mouth now .

And sadly a certain git down the road probably pisses on him for "best manager around"
 
Mors said:
I think he'll leave Madrid this summer if they don't win the champs league. I think he'll go even if they do. But I presume he'd need the manager of one of these 4 to go before he moved - scum, city, chelsea, psg. City would be a good possibility. Mancini is not a good manager and Mourinho would have them achieving a lot more.
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Dreambeliever said:
He went to Chelsea won 2 titles and nobody has been able to get them close to that sort of form in the league since he left.
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Except for Ancelotti.

I wonder if he'll ever go to an average team and make them great ... Or he'll always go to teams with money and potential and leave just as the job gets tough (Chelsea, soon Madrid) or when he knows he won't be able to repeat his success (Inter, Porto). He's a great manager, but he'll never be in the same bracket as Ferguson etc.
 
I don't like the cunt and I think he's a fraud.

Let me be the anti DB here.

Did really well with Porto - respect.

Got presented with the most expensively assembled team on the planet at Chelsea and won the least amount of things I'd expect him to.

Moved to the dominante team in Italy, in it's prime and, credit due, got them to achieve the best they could.

Then he went to Real Madrid and did pretty much the minimum expected.

It'll be Man City or PSG next with an open cheque book or he won't be interested.

As mentioned, he's really good at dealing with "big" players, mainly because he's one of the few people who's ego is actually bigger.

Tactically, I think he's dull as fuck - grinds out results, his teams are solid but unspectacular - where would Real Madrid be without Ronaldo?

But... by fuck does he have an ego... and does he ever pick the right teams to go to... and ring every last drop of success out of them before things go pear shaped.

Ferguson may be a cunt, but he's recreated that cunting team time and time again - Mourinho has managed a few good teams, but arguably never created one.
 
If he doesnt win La Liga this year he has 1 title in 3 years with the most expensive squad in history, and this season Barca are managed by a guy nobody has ever heard of and they are wiping the floor with Madrid. Thats why hes leaving, his ego is being damaged in Spain, it was the same in England, once Utd wrestled the title back from Chelsea he engineered his way out rather than building a second title winning team.

He is undoubtedly a world class manager but his perceived status as the best in the world owes as much his own endless grandstanding as his achievements. The thing is he brings a club guaranteed success in the short term but he is such a divisive personality who instigates so many confrontations that after his inevitable departure there is always chaos.
 
That's the reason I think United won't be after him, he's shown himself to be a short term proposition and needs loadsa money. Great for <5 years and difficult to replace, not to mention how the players he leaves behind seem to become problematic.

Is that something they're willing to accept after 25+ years or managerial stability?

The thought of him managing there does make me ill though, it'll be like the Van Persie signing but worse listening to their fucking fans - we're so awesome, we just went out and got exactly what we needed at any cost and we're such a big club everyone wants to come here.
 
Jesus Christ some of you are so biased it's amazing. Never built a team? How about Porto? Uefa cup followed by cl. And the way you dismiss how he turned Chelsea from an incredibly expensive bunch of players into a title winning side was very impressive. And before he won the league at Madrid they had been 2nd best by some distance to the greatest club team the world has ever seen. Lest you forget he turned Milan from Euro flops into treble winners in 1 season. He's won what 6 league titles 2 cl 1 uefa cup a hatful of domestic cups while dealing with 3 of the most volatile boards in the world all in 8 seasons. Fuck me some people are never happy.
 
I disagree.

He didn't create that Porto side, he only managed it for 2 seasons. What he did was taken over the dominant Portuguese team - a team that hadn't finished lower than 3rd since the mid 70's and he got them to achieve exactly what they had already been doing frequently in the League. Arguably his achievements in Europe, which were outstanding, are the only time he's truly overachieved in Europe.

He was then handed the then most expensively assembled team in footballs history - and won exactly what I would expect him to win and get the result that I'd expect other top rated managers to get. No Chelsea manager since has quite had the same level of financial support.

He then went to Inter, the dominant Italian team at a time when natural rivals Juve & AC Milan were fucked. His league achievements were no less than you would expect, given that's what Mancini had achieved.

Now, you can argue that he got Inter to overachieve in Europe, but you can easily point to Mancini's record in Europe and argue that he had them spectacularly underachieving, as he's doing with City.

He then buggers off to Real and again gets one of the most expensively assembled teams in history - and you know what, winning a few domestic trophies is the least he should be achieving.

When you parachute in to the dominate team in a league it get given more resources than anyone in that league - you should win things.
 
StevieM said:
I disagree.

He didn't create that Porto side, he only managed it for 2 seasons. What he did was taken over the dominant Portuguese team - a team that hadn't finished lower than 3rd since the mid 70's and he got them to achieve exactly what they had already been doing frequently in the League. Arguably his achievements in Europe, which were outstanding, are the only time he's truly overachieved in Europe.

He was then handed the then most expensively assembled team in footballs history - and won exactly what I would expect him to win and get the result that I'd expect other top rated managers to get. No Chelsea manager since has quite had the same level of financial support.

He then went to Inter, the dominant Italian team at a time when natural rivals Juve & AC Milan were fucked. His league achievements were no less than you would expect, given that's what Mancini had achieved.

Now, you can argue that he got Inter to overachieve in Europe, but you can easily point to Mancini's record in Europe and argue that he had them spectacularly underachieving, as he's doing with City.

He then buggers off to Real and again gets one of the most expensively assembled teams in history - and you know what, winning a few domestic trophies is the least he should be achieving.

When you parachute in to the dominate team in a league it get given more resources than anyone in that league - you should win things.
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There have been plenty of managers, that have been dropped into big name teams and achieved fuck all. He wins, wherever he goes. He's like bloody zlatan. Look at chelsea, they've had 448 managers int he last 12months, and the most of them can't win a thing, big names too a lot of them.
Having a top team, with top players, and top resources doesn't guarantee you success, not unless he's in charge that is.
 
He is excellent. If we'd had managers that could get the most out of expensively assembled teams we'd have about 25 titles now.
 
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