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Martin Skrtel

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I'm of the opinion he's world class. Is there anything he can't do? He's big, he's strong, he's quick, he's good on the ball and he's now a genuine theat from set pieces.

I know Benteke gave him a torrid time last weekend but by and large, Skrtel is a model consistency and a bargain at £6million. Top player and still underrated imo.
 
Our defence has been woeful for large periods this season, and he's featured in most of our games. He obviously had a good game today, so I'm guessing that's why this thread has popped up. There's no doubting his quality, although he's a long way off the form he showed last season. His partnership with Agger has been poor this season, too.
 
I think Skrtel and Agger are two of the best defenders about, our defensive problems this season hasn't been because o them but because of our porous midfield
 
At his best he can produce world class performances but I wouldn't say he's world class either. We've gotten one brilliant season out of him and whilst he's never been bad otherwise he's not quite been consistent enough.
 
No - after the performances of this season as a whole - I can honestly say that NONE of our defenders have been world class or are world class. Good maybe - but not world class. In truth there are only a few world class defenders of which most are not in this country so I really don't know who they are. There was some talk on the radio the other day how most of the teams this season in the PL have been defensively very poor.

Anyway that said - I thought his goal - the way he executed it was fantastic.
 
Not world class but easily our best centre half and we'd be in trouble without him. Relies on his pace a bit to much for my liking which means he'll fade fast on the wrong side of 30
 
Defensively, he's edging towards Carra's peak level. He's already better than Carra when it comes to taking the ball from deep in our half into the opponents' midfield and distributing it. He doesn't do this that often, but I feel that this aspect of him is as underrated as Agger's is sometimes overrated.

Agger does a fine job bringing the ball deep into opponents' territory but quite often doesn't do well enough with the pass at the end of the run - he'd do all the difficult bits dodging and selling opponents the wrong way but then make a sloppy risky pass at the end of the run that concedes possession and ignites a counter-attack. I think Skrtel is better with the final pass at this point as he tends to play the higher percentage (safer) pass at the end of his run.

When it comes to dealing with aerial balls at either end of the pitch though, neither of our centre backs come close to Hyypia. Improving, yes. Close? Not even. Hyypia's ability in the air was superb. When he went in to attack an aerial ball, you just felt very confident he'd win it, and send it where he wanted it to go. That level of authority in the air is what Agger and Skrtel still don't possess. Hyypia might get troubled by Drogba when the ball's on the floor, but he'd not betray any nerves when it comes to high balls. Agger and Skrtel, on the other hand, still look a bit panicky or jittery in this area, and they still get sloppy defending set pieces.

What I like about Skrtel is that he's improving, cutting out those rash challenges at the back and growing into a useful option for our set pieces up front. I'd say that taken individually, Skrtel and Agger are very good centre backs now. For me, if they're to make the step up to the next level, each of them needs to work on improving his ability in the air and concentration in games.
 
I think the main difference between Skrtel and Carragher, aside from Skrtel's physicality and aerial prowess, is that Carra was able to form a formidable partnership with pretty much whoever he was playing with. I don't get that impression about Skrtel at this stage. Perhaps it's because Carra is more of a thinking man's footballer, whereas Skrtel is a bit more of a brute, both physically, and mentally. Or perhaps it's just that his primary defensive partner spends half his time on the treatment table.
 
I think the main difference between Skrtel and Carragher, aside from Skrtel's physicality and aerial prowess, is that Carra was able to form a formidable partnership with pretty much whoever he was playing with. I don't get that impression about Skrtel at this stage. Perhaps it's because Carra is more of a thinking man's footballer, whereas Skrtel is a bit more of a brute, both physically, and mentally. Or perhaps it's just that his primary defensive partner spends half his time on the treatment table.

To be fair, Del, the only player that Skrtel hasn't formed a good partnership with is Carra. Agger and Sami he's formed very good partnerships with. Even Coates and the The Greek looked reasonable. He never looked comfortable with Carra and, by obvious extension, Carra never formed a good partnership with him.

At that stage Martin needed someone to organise him (Sami) not scream at him as Carra was want to do. He still needs organising to a lesser extent but I'd warrant he could play better with Carra these days than in the past.
 
Not sure I agree Wiz. Aside from a decent patch when Kenny took over I don't think the Skrtel/Agger partnership has ever really blossomed. And conversely, I think the Carragher/Skrtel pairing is as close as Skrtel has come to developing a successful partnership. It certainly had a few questioning Agger's future here at the time.

But of course both pale in comparison to the likes of Carra/Hyypia, or Hyypia/Henchoz. That's what I mean about a partnership. Players who genuinely complement each other.
 
Not sure I agree Wiz. Aside from a decent patch when Kenny took over I don't think the Skrtel/Agger partnership has ever really blossomed. And conversely, I think the Carragher/Skrtel pairing is as close as Skrtel has come to developing a successful partnership. It certainly had a few questioning Agger's future here at the time.

But of course both pale in comparison to the likes of Carra/Hyypia, or Hyypia/Henchoz. That's what I mean about a partnership. Players who genuinely complement each other.


Hmmm, I always seem to remember Skrtel looking confused, fearful of acting, hesitant when playing with Carra. Conversely, when playing with Sami he seemed clear and his pace complemented the partnership well.

I may be one of those who's been carried away by the hype of Martin and Agger. We said for several years they were a future partnership but it took time to develop. When compared to the two H's or Sami and Carra, however, the difference becomes obvious. It remains a potentially great partnership.
 
I'm with Wiz on this. Carra/Skrtel never looked a happy combo to me, though I wonder how much of that was positional - Skrtel had to play as the left-sided CB at that time, and has blossomed since switching to the right (I also notice that Carra now plays on Skrtel's left, not the other way round, when the two of them team up).

As for Agger/Skrtel, I remain hopeful. It may be less of a genuine partnership than either of the duos involving Sami, but each of them is excellent and at their best they do combine well.
 
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