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Martin O'Neill Tops 22-Man List Of Managers Tipped To Succeed Rafael Benitez

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Decent Article from Goal of all places..

In depth Analysis of all the managers that we are after to fill the post.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2010/06/03/1956831/goalcom-special-martin-oneill-tops-22-man-list-of-managers

The one that stands out for me is definitely Manuel Pellegrini, however its risky as their is always a chance he could end up being another *worryingly* Sergio Ramos, and as he is currently not attached to any club, no compensation to pay out.

He could get us by on a shoe string budget, he did it with Villareal.
 
I had anticipated that the reason for the protracted saga was because it had taken much time to finalise the replacement.

If it's really true that Rafa's been sacked and we're only now looking for replacements, we truly are a joke.
 
My order of preference.

1. Kenny
2. Pellegrini
3. Van Gaal

I guess given our situation, i can't really complain about Hodgson or Mon...

any one else would be a hard pill to swallow

Also Germany and Spain have the best crop of young upstarts in football. Any incoming manager would benefit, if they are able to find bargains from there.....as we are most certainly going to be bargain hunting in the next couple of transfer windows.
 
No slight on anyone; but seriously speaking, why do so many think that Kenny can cut it? He hasn't been in management for ages. I don't think someone who has been away from the game (in management sense) for that long can just pick up how the game is played now.
 
I don't think many people are suggesting that Kenny should be anything more than a short term solution. That's certainly the basis I think his appointment should be on.
 
But how short term would short term be? We don't really need a manager as of now, and I would really hope we appoint a full time manager during or just after the world cup. There's no point appointing Kenny and then relieve him of his duties just before the season starts.
 
King Kenny is the best candidate for the caretaker role, but I still don't want to see him anywhere near it, I'd hate to see him fail.
(with our current state of affair, disaster is bound to happen)
 
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=40472.msg1113104#msg1113104 date=1275647415]
But how short term would short term be? We don't really need a manager as of now, and I would really hope we appoint a full time manager during or just after the world cup. There's no point appointing Kenny and then relieve him of his duties just before the season starts.
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His track record as a manager with Liverpool, and then with Blackburn is excellent. Newcastle was the only job he didn't succeed at. But i agree that does not mean he will succeed now. Similarly, it also does not mean he can't succeed now. We have seen Roy Hodgson take a very long sabbatical and then come back and be just as successful. There is no reason why Kenny can't emulate that. More importantly there is no reason why Kenny is going to be sure failure as you seem to imply.

There are some who don't want Kenny to ruin his health and reputation. That really is up to Kenny. He is just 59 a year older than Mon, and i'm sure he can handle the responsibility just fine. I'm sure Kenny will consider this before taking up the offer. So fans don't need to worry about this.

He has been involved with the football side of things at Liverpool recently and there is some synergy to be had if he is to take up the role of care taker manager. Given our circumstances, he is a practical appointment to hold forte till we resolve ownership issues and also till a good manager is available....not for just the off-season.
 
I want Van Gaal. He has a history of winning trophies and is tactically astute.

I'm warming to Pellegrini as he is available also.
 
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=40472.msg1113112#msg1113112 date=1275648444]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=40472.msg1113104#msg1113104 date=1275647415]
But how short term would short term be? We don't really need a manager as of now, and I would really hope we appoint a full time manager during or just after the world cup. There's no point appointing Kenny and then relieve him of his duties just before the season starts.
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His track record as a manager with Liverpool, and then with Blackburn is excellent. Newcastle was the only job he didn't succeed at. But i agree that does not mean he will succeed now. Similarly, it also does not mean he can't succeed now. We have seen Roy Hodgson take a very long sabbatical and then come back and be just as successful. There is no reason why Kenny can't emulate that. More importantly there is no reason why Kenny is going to be sure failure as you seem to imply.

There are some who don't want Kenny to ruin his health and reputation. That really is up to Kenny. He is just 59 a year older than Mon, and i'm sure he can handle the responsibility just fine. I'm sure Kenny will consider this before taking up the offer. So fans don't need to worry about this.

He has been involved with the football side of things at Liverpool recently and there is some synergy to be had if he is to take up the role of care taker manager. Given our circumstances, he is a practical appointment to hold forte till we resolve ownership issues and also till a good manager is available....not for just the off-season.
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Try telling Celtic fans that Julian.
Kenny will not go near it on a full time basis, he is a Liverpool legend, and we want to keep it that way

regards

regards
 
I cant believe Kenney would take it anyway; at best he may get a beefed-up role n management and be consulted with manager appointments.

But that's it.
 
Why do we need an 'interim manager' again?

It's something that seems to be a SCM fact, but I'm a bit bemused by it.

We shouldn't bow down to potential owners that don't even exist yet. Get in a proper manager and lets get on with things.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40472.msg1113118#msg1113118 date=1275648953]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=40472.msg1113112#msg1113112 date=1275648444]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=40472.msg1113104#msg1113104 date=1275647415]
But how short term would short term be? We don't really need a manager as of now, and I would really hope we appoint a full time manager during or just after the world cup. There's no point appointing Kenny and then relieve him of his duties just before the season starts.
[/quote]

His track record as a manager with Liverpool, and then with Blackburn is excellent. Newcastle was the only job he didn't succeed at. But i agree that does not mean he will succeed now. Similarly, it also does not mean he can't succeed now. We have seen Roy Hodgson take a very long sabbatical and then come back and be just as successful. There is no reason why Kenny can't emulate that. More importantly there is no reason why Kenny is going to be sure failure as you seem to imply.

There are some who don't want Kenny to ruin his health and reputation. That really is up to Kenny. He is just 59 a year older than Mon, and i'm sure he can handle the responsibility just fine. I'm sure Kenny will consider this before taking up the offer. So fans don't need to worry about this.

He has been involved with the football side of things at Liverpool recently and there is some synergy to be had if he is to take up the role of care taker manager. Given our circumstances, he is a practical appointment to hold forte till we resolve ownership issues and also till a good manager is available....not for just the off-season.
[/quote]

Try telling Celtic fans that Julian.
Kenny will not go near it on a full time basis, he is a Liverpool legend, and we want to keep it that way

regards

regards
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Say if he is given a initial six month tenure. His performance in this 6 months is going to over-shadow his legacy built during his 15 year career at Liverpool? I think your point of view is a bit too sentimental, but i see where you are coming from, especially as you are a match going fan from since before Kenny's era.

The only arguments i find relevant is that he may not succeed, and that we don't need a care taker manager. There is no black or white answer to both those questions. I would still like Kenny to be given a chance, if he wants it.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40472.msg1113121#msg1113121 date=1275649513]
Why do we need an 'interim manager' again?

It's something that seems to be a SCM fact, but I'm a bit bemused by it.

We shouldn't bow down to potential owners that don't even exist yet. Get in a proper manager and lets get on with things.
[/quote]

It may be due to fear that we wont be able to attract a marquee manager and also back him in terms of player acquisition. We want Mourinho, but its not happening.
 
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=40472.msg1113145#msg1113145 date=1275651531]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40472.msg1113121#msg1113121 date=1275649513]
Why do we need an 'interim manager' again?

It's something that seems to be a SCM fact, but I'm a bit bemused by it.

We shouldn't bow down to potential owners that don't even exist yet. Get in a proper manager and lets get on with things.
[/quote]

It may be due to fear that we wont be able to attract a marquee manager and also back him in terms of player acquisition. We want Mourinho, but its not happening. [/quote]

He will be hurt and available in less than 12 months from now.
 
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=40472.msg1113145#msg1113145 date=1275651531]
It may be due to fear that we wont be able to attract a marquee manager and also back him in terms of player acquisition. We want Mourinho, but its not happening.
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It's not fear but a reality. Which marquee manager is going to put his reputuation on the line given the state the club is in. Mourinho's full of himself, never a serious candidate in the first place, despite what some think here. After this, at least one of our marquee players will be on his way. Bet's on Mascher.
 
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=40472.msg1113140#msg1113140 date=1275651250]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40472.msg1113118#msg1113118 date=1275648953]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=40472.msg1113112#msg1113112 date=1275648444]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=40472.msg1113104#msg1113104 date=1275647415]
But how short term would short term be? We don't really need a manager as of now, and I would really hope we appoint a full time manager during or just after the world cup. There's no point appointing Kenny and then relieve him of his duties just before the season starts.
[/quote]

His track record as a manager with Liverpool, and then with Blackburn is excellent. Newcastle was the only job he didn't succeed at. But i agree that does not mean he will succeed now. Similarly, it also does not mean he can't succeed now. We have seen Roy Hodgson take a very long sabbatical and then come back and be just as successful. There is no reason why Kenny can't emulate that. More importantly there is no reason why Kenny is going to be sure failure as you seem to imply.

There are some who don't want Kenny to ruin his health and reputation. That really is up to Kenny. He is just 59 a year older than Mon, and i'm sure he can handle the responsibility just fine. I'm sure Kenny will consider this before taking up the offer. So fans don't need to worry about this.

He has been involved with the football side of things at Liverpool recently and there is some synergy to be had if he is to take up the role of care taker manager. Given our circumstances, he is a practical appointment to hold forte till we resolve ownership issues and also till a good manager is available....not for just the off-season.
[/quote]

Try telling Celtic fans that Julian.
Kenny will not go near it on a full time basis, he is a Liverpool legend, and we want to keep it that way

regards

regards
[/quote]

Say if he is given a initial six month tenure. His performance in this 6 months is going to over-shadow his legacy built during his 15 year career at Liverpool? I think your point of view is a bit too sentimental, but i see where you are coming from, especially as you are a match going fan from since before Kenny's era.

The only arguments i find relevant is that he may not succeed, and that we don't need a care taker manager. There is no black or white answer to both those questions. I would still like Kenny to be given a chance, if he wants it.

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I don't think it's sentiment at all, and I don't think Kenny could ever tarnish his achievements no matter what he did.

Vlad's main concern (which I share) is that Kenny would fail.

If we're talking about a very temporary appointment to calm nerves its one thing, but any meaningful appointment where Kenny would be responsible for tactics, player transfers and so on would be suicide.
 
If we're talking about a very temporary appointment to calm nerves its one thing, but any meaningful appointment where Kenny would be responsible for tactics, player transfers and so on would be suicide.
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It's the summer transfer window.

If temporary appointment Kenny isn't going to be responsible for transfers, who is?
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40472.msg1113180#msg1113180 date=1275653530]
If we're talking about a very temporary appointment to calm nerves its one thing, but any meaningful appointment where Kenny would be responsible for tactics, player transfers and so on would be suicide.
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It's the summer transfer window.

If temporary appointment Kenny isn't going to be responsible for transfers, who is?
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True enough, but I was talking about some sort of beefed-up role thingy which is more than his 'Ambassador' shtick now but which is less than a manager.
 
I dont think he should be manager; but if we dont have a manager already lined up and are in fact going around from door-to-door then some sort of temporary appointment might help calm some people who're convinced we're looking at a free-fall.

Ideally, we'd have a quality manager already lined up before sacking Rafa.
 
Haven't read it, but Pellegrini played some good stuff with Villareal, was only beaten to the title last season by an outrageous points haul and basically I'd rather have him than what the best of what Britain has to offer.

Don't know much about Van Gaal to be honest.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40472.msg1113180#msg1113180 date=1275653530]
If we're talking about a very temporary appointment to calm nerves its one thing, but any meaningful appointment where Kenny would be responsible for tactics, player transfers and so on would be suicide.
Click to expand...

It's the summer transfer window.

If temporary appointment Kenny isn't going to be responsible for transfers, who is?
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Which tranfers? We are broke.
 
His track record as a manager with Liverpool, and then with Blackburn is excellent. Newcastle was the only job he didn't succeed at. But i agree that does not mean he will succeed now. Similarly, it also does not mean he can't succeed now. We have seen Roy Hodgson take a very long sabbatical and then come back and be just as successful. There is no reason why Kenny can't emulate that. More importantly there is no reason why Kenny is going to be sure failure as you seem to imply.
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Roy Hodgson didn't take any sabbaticals, he was managing outside of England before coming to Fulham.

You're right, I don't think he's going to do well for us.

He has not managed since 2000, and since 1998 in English football. 12 years is a long time in football, just look at how much the Premier League has changed since then.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=40472.msg1113091#msg1113091 date=1275645999]
I had anticipated that the reason for the protracted saga was because it had taken much time to finalise the replacement.

If it's really true that Rafa's been sacked and we're only now looking for replacements, we truly are a joke.
[/quote]

I said this yesterday and I'm beginning to think we have kicked the stool away and are hanging there waiting for someone to come by and rescue us.

It was suggested our Board must be working to a plan and would've thought it through.

Like I said yesterday, I hope that's true but I have my doubts.
 
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=40472.msg1113295#msg1113295 date=1275664338]
His track record as a manager with Liverpool, and then with Blackburn is excellent. Newcastle was the only job he didn't succeed at. But i agree that does not mean he will succeed now. Similarly, it also does not mean he can't succeed now. We have seen Roy Hodgson take a very long sabbatical and then come back and be just as successful. There is no reason why Kenny can't emulate that. More importantly there is no reason why Kenny is going to be sure failure as you seem to imply.
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Roy Hodgson didn't take any sabbaticals, he was managing outside of England before coming to Fulham.

You're right, I don't think he's going to do well for us.

He has not managed since 2000, and since 1998 in English football. 12 years is a long time in football, just look at how much the Premier League has changed since then.
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Football's still XI v XI. I know financially and tactically things have evolved, but they've also been overcomplicated, particularly in our case. It's still a task of finding a manager who can be tactically successful, identify good players and make us play like a team. The rest is all for the good of the image and the brand, which lets face it, is all a load of commercial bollocks anyway, despite it's financial rewards.
 
[quote author=vikas link=topic=40472.msg1113193#msg1113193 date=1275654210]

Don't know much about Van Gaal to be honest.
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He knows how to balance a team, he'd only stay around 1-2 seasons, enough for him to win us a title. Players with major attitude problems will be getting sold most likely as this guy is very disciplined. And he doesn't take crap.
Eg;
[flash=400,400]http://www.youtube.com/v/WjwI3Qm3wQg[/flash]

Robben still loves him though.
[flash=400,400]http://www.youtube.com/v/Dr-t7o7M8-A[/flash]

Great manager.
He's a winner and he likes to play attractive football whilst winning which is a bonus.

Don't see us getting him though I think he'll commit to Bayern for another season before moving on to International management.
 
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