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'Reo-Coker and O'Neill grapple on ground in Villa training bust-up'
Published 08:10 18/09/09 By Mirror Football


Aston Villa manager Martin O'Neill and midfielder Nigel Reo-Coker wrestled each other to the floor during a heated training ground row, it has been claimed.

The pair are said to have grappled for several seconds before being separated by stunned Villa players.

It is claimed the spat - during which no punches were thrown - was sparked by Reo-Coker's unhappimness at being subbed during Sunday's 1-0 derby win at Birmingham.
 
Reo-Coker is a waste of space.


Souness on Over-Paid Players

The former Liverpool, Rangers and Newcastle manager hit out by claiming that the inflated salaries paid to footballers these days has changed the professional game for the worse since his days as a players when he led the Anfield club to the pinnacle of European football.

"It's very easy to just say it's money but it is money - money's given them a voice that they never had," Souness said.

"A quick example: me as a 30-year-old in the Liverpool dressing room. I've won several European Cups and lots of leagues, captain of Liverpool, captain of Scotland. If I had offered an opinion, they'd have looked at me as if I had two heads.

"ËœYou've got young players today who play half a dozen times in the first team, they've all got an opinion and they want to be heard and it's not for me.

"I was very fortunate to play with some great players, play in teams who won things, that's the way I was brought up. I thought it was correct, the way I was acting, but obviously the game has changed greatly."

The 56-year-old has been out of management since being sacked by Newcastle three years ago when he was involved in high-profile disagreements with Craig Bellamy and Laurent Robert.

Souness, who also managed Blackburn, Southampton, Turkish side Galatasaray and Benfica, continued: "There's a great story about the most successful manager in this country. There's been a confrontation with a senior player and that senior player turned round to the manager and said: 'You've changed'.

"He (the manager) said 'wait a minute, you've all changed' and the reason you've changed is because of the kind of money you get today. Everyone's got an opinion today.

"Everyone's got something to offer and that's changed the game dramatically.' I don't want to be involved again. I haven't got the energy or the patience to deal with players any more. I accept at my age it's a very different game today. It just doesn't appeal to me."

Souness spoke out following the dismissal of Olympiakos manager Temuri Ketsbaia.

He continued: "It can only be, he's gone in there and upset some of the senior players, and they've gone to the president and said 'we're not having him' because that's the way it is today. Players are all-powerful today.

"If you've got four or five players on X amount a week and they fall out with the manager, they'll get him out of a job. It's no different in this country. It's becoming like that in this country. It's certainly been like that for a long time on the Continent."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/6205152/Overpaid-footballers-deters-Graeme-Souness-from-management-return.html
 
I can just picture that ferret, O'Neil, pleading "Now you wouldn't hit a man with glasses, to be sure"
 
Good bit from Souness there.
I'd say the levels of ego in the dressing room at the top clubs now is incredible.
Forget understanding football and tactics and all that, controlling these flashy fuckers must be the main challenge in the job.
 
Multiple choice question.

1) An uzi with a dozen magazines
2) A pair of cnuts doing a silly Soulja Boy dance
3) Seeing Soulja Boy crank it

Dunno bout you lot but it's an easy choice for me.

I'll pick one of them choices and 'eliminate' the others.
 
Fucking hell. I was about to go on a bit of a rant about O'Neill being an overrated manager and all that but after seeing that video it's a pity he didn't finish off Nigel Mediocre.
 
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Is music really shit these days or am I just getting old?
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Yes it is and no it's got nothing to do with your age. I'm 23 and haven't added a chart song to my music for over 2 years now (and that was prolly the 1st in a year or so again).
 
The Souness quotes were from the CL Analysis programme on Wednesday.

Poor Jamie had no idea what to say next
 
Is Souness talking about Keane and Ferguson? I didn't think it was much of a story tbh. I was waiting for the punchline.

Also, I find it very hard to imagine O'Neill winning a wrestling match with Reo-Coker, who, for all his limitations as a footballer, is built like a middleweight boxer.
 
Decent player and english, wouldnt mind him here.

Similar to masher but better passing for the quarter of the price.
 
Reo-coker is not a 'decent' player. He's average and a bottler. Cheap alternative to mascherano? What, like Black Tower is a cheap alternative to wine.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35920.msg945940#msg945940 date=1253293777]
Is music really shit these days or am I just getting old?
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It is, you are not.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35920.msg945940#msg945940 date=1253293777]
Is music really shit these days or am I just getting old?
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bit of both.
the good stuff is just harder to find.
im sure you can imagine the old people shaking their heads at "music these days" when rock first came along.
 
A bit more:

Reo-Coker learned that he was not welcome at the club's Bodymoor Heath training base when he reported this morning. It is understood that he was asked to apologise for the incident and, when he failed to respond to the manager in a room that included other first-team players, was told to "take the weekend off". He is later believed to have tried to speak to O'Neill on his own but, following a brief exchange with the manager, was informed that he should leave the premises.

O'Neill has yet to decide whether Reo-Coker will face any further disciplinary action such as a fine but the Villa manager indicated that he would consider that possibility once the Portsmouth game is over. "I have not fined anybody at this minute," he said. "I've not had a chance to do that. I've taken the action that I have done because I believe that's the appropriate action to take. And I will look at everything after the weekend."

However, there seems no way back for Reo-Coker, despite O'Neill's insistence that "he will be in contention with everybody else for Wednesday evening [when Villa face Cardiff City in the Carling Cup]". O'Neill is widely regarded as a player's manager but, at the same time, he is unlikely to be able to forget an incident that, irrespective of the circumstances, represented a challenge to his authority.

Whatever the outcome, the path ahead appears uncomfortable for both parties, not least because the transfer window has closed and the only loan option open would involve moving to a Championship club, something that Reo-Coker has no intention of considering. More likely is that the midfielder, who had recently forced his way back into the Villa side in his favoured midfield position after much of last season on the sidelines, or filling in at right-back, will sit tight until January and then seek a permanent move.

In the meantime O'Neill will get on with running a football club and ensuring that the rest of the Villa players understand what is expected of them. "I make the rules," said the Villa manager. "I am the manager of the football club. I am a custodian of the football club and so my rules apply. The players have to get used to that. It's as simple as that."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/18/martin-oneill-nigel-reo-coker
 
I cant imagine Reo Coker will play again for a while.

If I were O'Neill, I'd stick him in the reserves for the season and ensure he had no chance whatsoever of making the World Cup Squad.
 
He does have some very good games at times but for the most part he's pretty average and a bit of a cunt, too.

West Ham fans absolutely hate him.
 
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I cant imagine Reo Coker will play again for a while.

If I were O'Neill, I'd stick him in the reserves for the season and ensure he had no chance whatsoever of making the World Cup Squad.
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England aren't that shite.
 
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