Laudrup on Liverpool, Agger etc

[the_khl]

Don't know whether this has already been posted or commented on, but a rather good read after all I reckon;

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/laudrup-on-lfc-talks

 

[Red_Till_I_Die]

The person posing the questions has made my toes curl.

 

[Stulikesdrums]

Ha ha ha, I was on the official site earlier and I seen this and I thought of KHL creaming his little trousers over this piece. Did you enjoy it KHL? Did you light a ciggy after it?

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Stu link=topic=38927.msg1054776#msg1054776 date=1266245842]
Ha ha ha, I was on the official site earlier and I seen this and I thought of KHL creaming his little trousers over this piece. Did you enjoy it KHL? Did you light a ciggy after it?
[/quote]
Apart from the smoke that's pretty much spot on mate.

I don't wear 'little trousers' mind, that's just odd.

 

[spider-Neil]

why do the lfc have to bring up gerrard in every single fucking interview.

lfc.tv - 'so bruce (grobbelaar), what do you think of pepe reina'

bruce - 'oh he is definately a top goal keeper'

lfc.tv - 'and what about gerrard'

bruce - 'I, what?'

lfc.tv - 'gerrard, what do you think of steven gerrard'

bruce - 'I though this was an interview about liverpool goal keepers'

 

[Whaddapie]

I never realised just how close we were to getting Michael. The manner in which that fell through is heartbreaking... What a footballer he was.

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=38927.msg1054921#msg1054921 date=1266286574]
I never realised just how close we were to getting Michael. The manner in which that fell through is heartbreaking... What a footballer he was.
[/quote]

I know we won a lot of trophies in the 80s and as such he may not have had the greatest impact on our history back then, but in the late 80s/early 90s it surely would've been brilliant to have a player of Laudrups caliber playing at Anfield.

 

[Oncy]

He was utterly brilliant in the mid 80's.
In the 86 world cup he was second only to the greatest player of all time and in 88 well...

 

[Ryan]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38927.msg1054997#msg1054997 date=1266315840]
He was utterly brilliant in the mid 80's.
In the 86 world cup he was second only to the greatest player of all time and in 88 well...
[/quote]

Platini was better in 86.

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38927.msg1054997#msg1054997 date=1266315840]
He was utterly brilliant in the mid 80's.
In the 86 world cup he was second only to the greatest player of all time and in 88 well...
[/quote]
He was also very young back then mind.

He enjoyed his greatest years in a footballing-sence in the period from 1990 to 1995ish. (Apart from him NOT taking part in Denmark EC in 1992).

Won everything with Barca at that time and then moved on to win the Spanish League yet again, in his first season there, with arch-rivals Madrid after having falled out with Cruyff.

He won La Liga five times in a row in that period of time actually. Four consecutive wins with Barca (91-94) and one with Real (95).

My all time favourite footballer hence the reason why I've boldly suggested him as Rafas successor one day. I know that's bold. That's how bold it is but a boy can dream can't he?

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=38927.msg1055001#msg1055001 date=1266315935]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38927.msg1054997#msg1054997 date=1266315840]
He was utterly brilliant in the mid 80's.
In the 86 world cup he was second only to the greatest player of all time and in 88 well...
[/quote]

Platini was better in 86.
[/quote]No way man, Platini was amazing in 84 but i thought Laudrup ruled 86.

 

[Oncy]

Love this goal although looking back its not quite as good as i remember it. The delay on the shot untill he rounds the keeper is fucking class though.

1986 World Cup MICHAEL LAUDRUP vs Uruguay

 

[the_khl]

I have the same feeling Oncy. Thought it was better back then.

This is a top video btw.

Michael Laudrup Brilliance

 

[Judge Jules]

I now have less sympathy for Laudrup's decision to turn our offer down than I had before reading that interview. I always thought it was because we'd decided to offer him a year less than we originally said, whereas it now seems we actually offered a year more. It may not have been done in the ideal way, but that was no reason to turn the deal down.

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38927.msg1055258#msg1055258 date=1266356355]
I now have less sympathy for Laudrup's decision to turn our offer down than I had before reading that interview. I always thought it was because we'd decided to offer him a year less than we originally said, whereas it now seems we actually offered a year more. It may not have been done in the ideal way, but that was no reason to turn the deal down.
[/quote]
We offered him a year more alright. But within the exact same figures as been agreed upon for three years.

As in: You'll play one year for free.

No-one in their right mind would accept that turnaround so late in negotiations.

 

[Judge Jules]

TBH that seems hard to believe. For one thing, which footballer's ever been paid in a lump sum over a set number of years? For another, it's hard to believe the club would ever have expected anyone to accept such a change made in such a way. My impression from that interview was that he'd have gone on getting the same salary, but for one year longer before it came up for renewal.

If it really WAS as you say, though, I agree.

 

[Whaddapie]

[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38927.msg1055467#msg1055467 date=1266407642]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38927.msg1055258#msg1055258 date=1266356355]
I now have less sympathy for Laudrup's decision to turn our offer down than I had before reading that interview. I always thought it was because we'd decided to offer him a year less than we originally said, whereas it now seems we actually offered a year more. It may not have been done in the ideal way, but that was no reason to turn the deal down.
[/quote]
We offered him a year more alright. But within the exact same figures as been agreed upon for three years.

As in: You'll play one year for free.

No-one in their right mind would accept that turnaround so late in negotiations.
[/quote]

I doubt that, mate... Even Rick Parry wouldn't have tried to pull that one off.

Your Auto-Danish-Defense-Mode kicks in at the drop of a hat, doesn't it? If somebody insults morning pastries, you're ready to rumble, aren't you?

 

[Sunny]

He's shit that Laudrup. He's got no pace. 🙂

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=38927.msg1055516#msg1055516 date=1266420396]
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38927.msg1055467#msg1055467 date=1266407642]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38927.msg1055258#msg1055258 date=1266356355]
I now have less sympathy for Laudrup's decision to turn our offer down than I had before reading that interview. I always thought it was because we'd decided to offer him a year less than we originally said, whereas it now seems we actually offered a year more. It may not have been done in the ideal way, but that was no reason to turn the deal down.
[/quote]
We offered him a year more alright. But within the exact same figures as been agreed upon for three years.

As in: You'll play one year for free.

No-one in their right mind would accept that turnaround so late in negotiations.
[/quote]

I doubt that, mate... Even Rick Parry wouldn't have tried to pull that one off.

Your Auto-Danish-Defense-Mode kicks in at the drop of a hat, doesn't it? If somebody insults morning pastries, you're ready to rumble, aren't you?
[/quote]
Times where different back then and we were probably the biggest club in the world at the time.

It's been explained thoroughly by Laudrup in several programs and books that the club tried to make him sign for one more year without further payment than what had been agreed upon for three years.

From the article:

- But two weeks later they came back saying they wanted to offer me the same package, but for four years because I was still young and needed time to develop"

Believe it or not, I'm pretty sure he's not lying about it. Why would he? It doesn't seem like he holds any grudges towards Liverpool today that's just the way we tried to play it back then.

 

[Judge Jules]

I don't think he's lying, Kristian, but I also don't think he's saying what you think he's saying (unless you've seen confirmation of it elsewhere, which frankly would amaze me). The extra year would never have been unpaid.

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38927.msg1055607#msg1055607 date=1266438061]
I don't think he's lying, Kristian, but I also don't think he's saying what you think he's saying (unless you've seen confirmation of it elsewhere, which frankly would amaze me). The extra year would never have been unpaid.
[/quote]
They had agreed upon a set deal mate, making young Laudrup earn a sum of '£-something' over three years.

When they came over to sign the deal they had put another year into the contract without increasing the overall salary.

Same sum '£-something' just divided over 4 years. He's told about it in a few documentaries and several interviews. That's the way it went.

Think about it, what would the big deal be really if they had offered him another year with the same basic salary as agreed upon for the first three? Probably less than nothing as it was a move he was extremely interested in. He just felt shafted at the time and backed out.

 

[manwithnoname]

No one gives a fuck

 

[Judge Jules]

[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38927.msg1055613#msg1055613 date=1266439380]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38927.msg1055607#msg1055607 date=1266438061]
I don't think he's lying, Kristian, but I also don't think he's saying what you think he's saying (unless you've seen confirmation of it elsewhere, which frankly would amaze me). The extra year would never have been unpaid.
[/quote]
They had agreed upon a set deal mate, making young Laudrup earn a sum of '£-something' over three years.

When they came over to sign the deal they had put another year into the contract without increasing the overall salary.

Same sum '£-something' just divided over 4 years. He's told about it in a few documentaries and several interviews. That's the way it went.

Think about it, what would the big deal be really if they had offered him another year with the same basic salary as agreed upon for the first three? Probably less than nothing as it was a move he was extremely interested in. He just felt shafted at the time and backed out.


[/quote]

I've been making that point myself.

Have you actually heard him say the words "They were going to reduce the salary they originally offered me"? Because, if he hasn't, I'm afraid it still sounds dubious to me - and, if he has, I've never heard of another transfer deal structured along such lines. TBH the impression I now get is that it was a hasty decision which he's had to try and put in a better light ever since, as much to convince himself as for any other reason.

 

[Whaddapie]

[quote author=the_khl link=topic=38927.msg1055613#msg1055613 date=1266439380]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38927.msg1055607#msg1055607 date=1266438061]
I don't think he's lying, Kristian, but I also don't think he's saying what you think he's saying (unless you've seen confirmation of it elsewhere, which frankly would amaze me). The extra year would never have been unpaid.
[/quote]
They had agreed upon a set deal mate, making young Laudrup earn a sum of '£-something' over three years.

When they came over to sign the deal they had put another year into the contract without increasing the overall salary.

Same sum '£-something' just divided over 4 years. He's told about it in a few documentaries and several interviews. That's the way it went.

Think about it, what would the big deal be really if they had offered him another year with the same basic salary as agreed upon for the first three? Probably less than nothing as it was a move he was extremely interested in. He just felt shafted at the time and backed out.


[/quote]

Can you provide any links to where ML actually says "They came back to me and asked me to sign for four years for the same money they initially offered me for three"?

In the interview you initially post, he doesn't say anything of the sort - He simply says he didn't like that we changed the original agreement regarding the years of the contract.

I will apologise if you do show us him quoted as such, but until then, quite frankly, I don't believe you.

 

[manwithnoname]

Having you two discuss the ins and outs of speculative LFC transfers is a bit like watching Fred and Rose West arguing about parenting skills

 

[Judge Jules]

Well, it's our friend khl who reckons he knows where the bodies are buried. As it were.

 

[the_khl]

Well, maybe I'm wrong then.

I'll try to find the documentary about the Laurdrups one day and I'll report back to you.

Or not.

I'm tired.

 

[Mistadobalina]

That 86 Denmark team were cool as fuck. Didnt their coach put a 5am curfew on them during the world cup? How times have changed.