gerrard is no longer the best right back at the club 😉
it's taken ten years but...
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If the choice was there I'd still easily pick Gerrard.
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944930#msg944930 date=1253180593]
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
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Without question. Offering defensive strength as well as the ability to power down the wing. And probably better overall than Babbel.
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
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Without question. Offering defensive strength as well as the ability to power down the wing. And probably better overall than Babbel.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944930#msg944930 date=1253180593]
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
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Without question. Offering defensive strength as well as the ability to power down the wing. And probably better overall than Babbel.
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defensive strength is a matter for debate as gerrard hasn't occupied a position that needs defensive discipline for a while.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944930#msg944930 date=1253180593]
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
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Without question. Offering defensive strength as well as the ability to power down the wing. And probably better overall than Babbel.
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defensive strength is a matter for debate as gerrard hasn't occupied a position that needs defensive discipline for a while.
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[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=35873.msg944940#msg944940 date=1253180906]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944930#msg944930 date=1253180593]
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
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Without question. Offering defensive strength as well as the ability to power down the wing. And probably better overall than Babbel.
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defensive strength is a matter for debate as gerrard hasn't occupied a position that needs defensive discipline for a while.
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Istanbul
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=35873.msg944940#msg944940 date=1253180906]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944930#msg944930 date=1253180593]
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
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Without question. Offering defensive strength as well as the ability to power down the wing. And probably better overall than Babbel.
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defensive strength is a matter for debate as gerrard hasn't occupied a position that needs defensive discipline for a while.
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Istanbul
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944947#msg944947 date=1253181172]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=35873.msg944940#msg944940 date=1253180906]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944930#msg944930 date=1253180593]
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
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Without question. Offering defensive strength as well as the ability to power down the wing. And probably better overall than Babbel.
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defensive strength is a matter for debate as gerrard hasn't occupied a position that needs defensive discipline for a while.
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Istanbul
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one game, and he wasn't there all game at that.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944947#msg944947 date=1253181172]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=35873.msg944940#msg944940 date=1253180906]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944930#msg944930 date=1253180593]
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
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Without question. Offering defensive strength as well as the ability to power down the wing. And probably better overall than Babbel.
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defensive strength is a matter for debate as gerrard hasn't occupied a position that needs defensive discipline for a while.
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Istanbul
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one game, and he wasn't there all game at that.
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Squiggles
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Who gives a toss about how good a right back Gerrard is?
Firstly he's never ever going to play there again
Secondly we're judging him what... based on 2 maybe 3 games?
Firstly he's never ever going to play there again
Secondly we're judging him what... based on 2 maybe 3 games?
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[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=35873.msg944953#msg944953 date=1253181411]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944947#msg944947 date=1253181172]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=35873.msg944940#msg944940 date=1253180906]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944930#msg944930 date=1253180593]
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
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Without question. Offering defensive strength as well as the ability to power down the wing. And probably better overall than Babbel.
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defensive strength is a matter for debate as gerrard hasn't occupied a position that needs defensive discipline for a while.
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Istanbul
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one game, and he wasn't there all game at that.
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But it was a perfect cameo of just how good Stevie is at RB. Quite brilliant in fact.
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=35873.msg944953#msg944953 date=1253181411]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944947#msg944947 date=1253181172]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=35873.msg944940#msg944940 date=1253180906]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg944930#msg944930 date=1253180593]
you guys still think gerrard would be better than johnson at right back?
[/quote]
Without question. Offering defensive strength as well as the ability to power down the wing. And probably better overall than Babbel.
[/quote]
defensive strength is a matter for debate as gerrard hasn't occupied a position that needs defensive discipline for a while.
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Istanbul
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one game, and he wasn't there all game at that.
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But it was a perfect cameo of just how good Stevie is at RB. Quite brilliant in fact.
[quote author=cochyn link=topic=35873.msg944968#msg944968 date=1253182059]
christ all might spidey that's about 2mins of my life i will never have back after reading this thread!!!
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my pleasure 😀
christ all might spidey that's about 2mins of my life i will never have back after reading this thread!!!
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my pleasure 😀
Ha ha I'd pick Gerrard in every position bar lone stirker and goal in our team.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=35873.msg945078#msg945078 date=1253188715]
Ha ha I'd pick Gerrard in every position bar lone stirker and goal in our team.
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Yep
Ha ha I'd pick Gerrard in every position bar lone stirker and goal in our team.
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Yep
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Squiggles
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[quote author=Bob Loblaw link=topic=35873.msg945087#msg945087 date=1253189396]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=35873.msg945078#msg945078 date=1253188715]
Ha ha I'd pick Gerrard in every position bar lone stirker and goal in our team.
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Yep
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Yep? It's ridiculous.
Besides Gerrard would clearly be a better lone striker than a CB.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=35873.msg945078#msg945078 date=1253188715]
Ha ha I'd pick Gerrard in every position bar lone stirker and goal in our team.
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Yep
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Yep? It's ridiculous.
Besides Gerrard would clearly be a better lone striker than a CB.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=35873.msg945078#msg945078 date=1253188715]
Ha ha I'd pick Gerrard in every position bar lone stirker and goal in our team.
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gerrard would make a top center back...
erm...
Ha ha I'd pick Gerrard in every position bar lone stirker and goal in our team.
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gerrard would make a top center back...
erm...
But he wouldn't get that role ahead of Fernando Torres, why do you think Gerrard couldn't cut it at CB? I think he'd be aces
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[quote author=Bob Loblaw link=topic=35873.msg945189#msg945189 date=1253195840]
But he wouldn't get that role ahead of Fernando Torres, why do you think Gerrard couldn't cut it at CB? I think he'd be aces
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Better than Skrtel, Carra, Agger, etc, based on nothing? Okay.
But he wouldn't get that role ahead of Fernando Torres, why do you think Gerrard couldn't cut it at CB? I think he'd be aces
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Better than Skrtel, Carra, Agger, etc, based on nothing? Okay.
What do you mean based on nothing? weve watched him for years, the lad can head, tackle and pass better than anyone else in our team and CB would be a stroll in the park for him as everything would be in front of him.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35873.msg945191#msg945191 date=1253195957]
[quote author=Bob Loblaw link=topic=35873.msg945189#msg945189 date=1253195840]
But he wouldn't get that role ahead of Fernando Torres, why do you think Gerrard couldn't cut it at CB? I think he'd be aces
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Better than Skrtel, Carra, Agger, etc, based on nothing? Okay.
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He's a quick as all three, better passer out of defence, better ball carrier, as good in the air if not better, better tackler on the ground and on his feet.
Probably only weak point would be positioning which he could learn.
And he'd scored more from corners in the air.
[quote author=Bob Loblaw link=topic=35873.msg945189#msg945189 date=1253195840]
But he wouldn't get that role ahead of Fernando Torres, why do you think Gerrard couldn't cut it at CB? I think he'd be aces
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Better than Skrtel, Carra, Agger, etc, based on nothing? Okay.
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He's a quick as all three, better passer out of defence, better ball carrier, as good in the air if not better, better tackler on the ground and on his feet.
Probably only weak point would be positioning which he could learn.
And he'd scored more from corners in the air.
What he doesn't have, and what IMO would make him a dubious choice at CB, is the abililty to hold his position. He's just got too much energy waiting to be released. You couldn't play someone at CB who was bombing upfield all the time.
Although i agree with your pretence Spidey, claiming this on the back of arguably his poorest game all season isn't really the bast way of acknowledging it, is it?
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35873.msg945243#msg945243 date=1253197912]
Although i agree with your pretence Spidey, claiming this on the back of arguably his poorest game all season isn't really the bast way of acknowledging it, is it?
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Totally agree i thought Johnson last night was very poor, passing was woeful (although he wasn't the only one last night). Got caught out a few times defensively as well.
Although i agree with your pretence Spidey, claiming this on the back of arguably his poorest game all season isn't really the bast way of acknowledging it, is it?
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Totally agree i thought Johnson last night was very poor, passing was woeful (although he wasn't the only one last night). Got caught out a few times defensively as well.
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35873.msg945243#msg945243 date=1253197912]
Although i agree with your pretence Spidey, claiming this on the back of arguably his poorest game all season isn't really the bast way of acknowledging it, is it?
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nothing to do with yesterdays game, I was thinking about gerrard and all the positions he is best at the club and I thought he is no longer our best right best.
Although i agree with your pretence Spidey, claiming this on the back of arguably his poorest game all season isn't really the bast way of acknowledging it, is it?
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nothing to do with yesterdays game, I was thinking about gerrard and all the positions he is best at the club and I thought he is no longer our best right best.
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Squiggles
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=35873.msg945199#msg945199 date=1253196267]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35873.msg945191#msg945191 date=1253195957]
[quote author=Bob Loblaw link=topic=35873.msg945189#msg945189 date=1253195840]
But he wouldn't get that role ahead of Fernando Torres, why do you think Gerrard couldn't cut it at CB? I think he'd be aces
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Better than Skrtel, Carra, Agger, etc, based on nothing? Okay.
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He's a quick as all three, better passer out of defence, better ball carrier, as good in the air if not better, better tackler on the ground and on his feet.
Probably only weak point would be positioning which he could learn.
And he'd scored more from corners in the air.
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Hahaha, Christ.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35873.msg945191#msg945191 date=1253195957]
[quote author=Bob Loblaw link=topic=35873.msg945189#msg945189 date=1253195840]
But he wouldn't get that role ahead of Fernando Torres, why do you think Gerrard couldn't cut it at CB? I think he'd be aces
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Better than Skrtel, Carra, Agger, etc, based on nothing? Okay.
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He's a quick as all three, better passer out of defence, better ball carrier, as good in the air if not better, better tackler on the ground and on his feet.
Probably only weak point would be positioning which he could learn.
And he'd scored more from corners in the air.
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Hahaha, Christ.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35873.msg945254#msg945254 date=1253198990]
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35873.msg945243#msg945243 date=1253197912]
Although i agree with your pretence Spidey, claiming this on the back of arguably his poorest game all season isn't really the bast way of acknowledging it, is it?
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nothing to do with yesterdays game, I was thinking about gerrard and all the positions he is best at the club and I thought he is no longer our best right best.
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Fair enough.
I think timing may affect people's opinion though.
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35873.msg945243#msg945243 date=1253197912]
Although i agree with your pretence Spidey, claiming this on the back of arguably his poorest game all season isn't really the bast way of acknowledging it, is it?
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nothing to do with yesterdays game, I was thinking about gerrard and all the positions he is best at the club and I thought he is no longer our best right best.
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Fair enough.
I think timing may affect people's opinion though.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35873.msg945191#msg945191 date=1253195957]
[quote author=Bob Loblaw link=topic=35873.msg945189#msg945189 date=1253195840]
But he wouldn't get that role ahead of Fernando Torres, why do you think Gerrard couldn't cut it at CB? I think he'd be aces
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Better than Skrtel, Carra, Agger, etc, based on nothing? Okay.
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He's a quick as all three, better passer out of defence, better ball carrier, as good in the air if not better, better tackler on the ground and on his feet.
Probably only weak point would be positioning which he could learn.
And he'd scored more from corners in the air.
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Hahaha, Christ.
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I doubt there would be anything he could do.
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=35873.msg945199#msg945199 date=1253196267]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35873.msg945191#msg945191 date=1253195957]
[quote author=Bob Loblaw link=topic=35873.msg945189#msg945189 date=1253195840]
But he wouldn't get that role ahead of Fernando Torres, why do you think Gerrard couldn't cut it at CB? I think he'd be aces
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Better than Skrtel, Carra, Agger, etc, based on nothing? Okay.
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He's a quick as all three, better passer out of defence, better ball carrier, as good in the air if not better, better tackler on the ground and on his feet.
Probably only weak point would be positioning which he could learn.
And he'd scored more from corners in the air.
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Hahaha, Christ.
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I doubt there would be anything he could do.
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Squiggles
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I wouldn't rule it out but CB requires unique abilities, things like anticipation, positioning, etc, to say he'd be better CB then any of our current ones because he could simply "learn" them is, I think, a bit naive, and does our current CB's a disservice.
Anyway it is possibly the most pointless debate I've witnessed on a football forum.
Anyway it is possibly the most pointless debate I've witnessed on a football forum.
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