If Ferguscum wins the league this season.........

[Terrier]

- Having lost 2 utterly fantastic players and having replaced them with relative guff

- having spent peanuts last summer and nothing in the winter

- relying on two 40 year old's and a bunch of other random cretins to anchor their mid

- having had defensive injuries worse than ours

and finally 'knocking Liverpool off their perch' as he promised 20 odd years ago, does that confirm he's the greatest manager the English league has ever seen?




Painful but true.

 

[Oncy]

He already is.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39371.msg1071867#msg1071867 date=1268903035]
- Having lost 2 utterly fantastic players and having replaced them with relative guff


[/quote]

who are the guff players he replaced them with? you can't possibly mean valencia.

 

[themn]

Who are the "two 40 year-olds" ?

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39371.msg1071872#msg1071872 date=1268903196]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39371.msg1071867#msg1071867 date=1268903035]
- Having lost 2 utterly fantastic players and having replaced them with relative guff


[/quote]

who are the guff players he replaced them with? you can't possibly mean valencia.
[/quote]

Well, for us Valencia would have been Guff.... Utter guff...

 

[Terrier]

Valencia is hardly a world beater and as for Owen pfff.

In that other thread, I asked which players where 'not very good at first' and ended up 'being good.'

Unsurprisingly 90% of the names were Scum players.

That's a testament to the cunt. He has an innate ability to get relative dullards playing like it's their last game for the club.

 

[Terrier]

[quote author=themn link=topic=39371.msg1071874#msg1071874 date=1268903463]
Who are the "two 40 year-olds" ?
[/quote]


slight Hyperbole....

Scholes and Giggs

 

[Terrier]

[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=39371.msg1071875#msg1071875 date=1268903463]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39371.msg1071872#msg1071872 date=1268903196]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39371.msg1071867#msg1071867 date=1268903035]
- Having lost 2 utterly fantastic players and having replaced them with relative guff


[/quote]

who are the guff players he replaced them with? you can't possibly mean valencia.
[/quote]

Well, for us Valencia would have been Guff.... Utter guff...
[/quote]


Absolutely. Can you imagine if Felcher, Park, Valencia and the other tribe of average joe's played for us?

Lucas would probably be the equivalent of Carrick if he played for the Scum.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39371.msg1071867#msg1071867 date=1268903035]
does that confirm he's the greatest manager the English league has ever seen?


[/quote]

depends what your criteria is;

taking a team from a lower league and turning them into a force: shankly, clough

trophies to years ratio: paisley

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39371.msg1071878#msg1071878 date=1268903880]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=39371.msg1071875#msg1071875 date=1268903463]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39371.msg1071872#msg1071872 date=1268903196]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39371.msg1071867#msg1071867 date=1268903035]
- Having lost 2 utterly fantastic players and having replaced them with relative guff


[/quote]

who are the guff players he replaced them with? you can't possibly mean valencia.
[/quote]

Well, for us Valencia would have been Guff.... Utter guff...
[/quote]


Absolutely. Can you imagine if Felcher, Park, Valencia and the other tribe of average joe's played for us?

Lucas would probably be the equivalent of Carrick if he played for the Scum.


[/quote]

delete your post, quick before bren see it!!

 

[themn]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39371.msg1071871#msg1071871 date=1268903170]
He already is.
[/quote]

You just wash your potty mouth out, Mister !

Sir Bob is and everyone can fuck off.

 

[manwithnoname]

Lucas would probably be the equivalent of Carrick if he played for the Scum.

No he wouldn't.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=themn link=topic=39371.msg1071891#msg1071891 date=1268904720]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39371.msg1071871#msg1071871 date=1268903170]
He already is.
[/quote]

You just wash your potty mouth out, Mister !

Sir Bob is and everyone can fuck off.
[/quote]Fergie was lucky to stumble upon a youth team containing Butt, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Neville.G that's half a cracking team there. His early signings Keane, Schmeichal, Cantona, Irwin were inspired and he was incredibly fortunate that he became THE successful team when the money poured into the game. If the80's was as cash rich as the 90's we would never have been caught not ever.
But all that aside 20 odd major trophies in 20 years including doing treble titles 3 seperate times is fucking astonishing.

 

[themn]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39371.msg1071895#msg1071895 date=1268905158]
[quote author=themn link=topic=39371.msg1071891#msg1071891 date=1268904720]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39371.msg1071871#msg1071871 date=1268903170]
He already is.
[/quote]

You just wash your potty mouth out, Mister !

Sir Bob is and everyone can fuck off.
[/quote]Fergie was lucky to stumble upon a youth team containing Butt, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Neville.G that's half a cracking team there. His early signings Keane, Schmeichal, Cantona, Irwin were inspired and he was incredibly fortunate that he became THE successful team when the money poured into the game. If the80's was as cash rich as the 90's we would never have been caught not ever.
But all that aside 20 odd major trophies in 20 years including doing treble titles 3 seperate times is fucking astonishing.
[/quote]

Knobs.

 

[Terrier]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39371.msg1071892#msg1071892 date=1268905009]

Lucas would probably be the equivalent of Carrick if he played for the Scum.

No he wouldn't.
[/quote]



Haha.....I'm the last to defend Lucas but if he played for Ferguscum, I bet you anything he would be better.


Same goes for Babel. He's a Wenger player in my book.

 

[Richey]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39371.msg1071895#msg1071895 date=1268905158]
Fergie was lucky to stumble upon a youth team containing Butt, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Neville.G that's half a cracking team there. His early signings Keane, Schmeichal, Cantona, Irwin were inspired and he was incredibly fortunate that he became THE successful team when the money poured into the game. If the80's was as cash rich as the 90's we would never have been caught not ever.
But all that aside 20 odd major trophies in 20 years including doing treble titles 3 seperate times is fucking astonishing.
[/quote]

That's mostly true but remember although many point out that it took Ferguson a while to get success at United he was building each year even in his early, more difficult years, and the players he signed then were in many cases still around and still playing a big part when the titles started coming.
Compare that with Benitez who chops and changes his own players on an annual basis

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Paisley

 

[Sunny]

Paisley, In less than 9 Years as manager (Aug 74 - May 83) won:

3 European Cups
1 UEFA Cup
2 x European Super Cup
6 x League Titles (Runners up twice)
3 x League Cup


Ferguson, In 24 years has achieved:

2 European Cups
5 FA Cups
11 League Titles
1 UEFA Cup Winners Cup
1 UEFA Super Cup

So in terms of trophies Ferguson has to be considered the best but he had 15 years more than Bob. In terms of trophies delivered per year there's a case for Paisley. I guess it's all a case of perspective. Paisley has it for me but I'm biased. Paisley also had great humility whereas Ferguson is a complete cunt.