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How much do you trust Rodgers with the money?

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singlerider

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Assuming we get a fairly reasonable kitty, what with people leaving and that, and given his buys have been:

Allen - £15M
Borini - £11M(ish?)
Assaidi - £3M
Yesil - £1M
Sturridge - £12M
Coutinho - £8.5M
Toure - Free transfer

A pretty common theme in recent years has been "even if we have money, we'll only piss it up the wall anyhoo" - so how do people feel about the new gaffer's ability to splash the cash? Spunk it, or spend wisely?
 
Well 4 out of those 6 signings are pretty average so far, although unfair to judge Yesil. Saying that his last two signings have been great.
 
singlerider said:
Allen - £15M
Borini - £11M(ish?)
Assaidi - £3M
Yesil - £1M



Sturridge - £12M
Coutinho - £8.5M
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See I think there's two separate sets of deals.

Group 1 - Rodgers on his own. And without knowing anything about how Yesil will turn out - they're shite transfers.

Group 2 - After the club has put in place the team of scouts and analysts, we get the second bunch of signings which are much better.

I'm expecting much more Group 2 signings rather than the usual - Premiership proven, worked with the manager before type bollocks that the first bunch represent.
 
I think Mr Rodgers will spend heroically.

If i was him i think id want Suarez to go and to have the cash to invest.
40m Suarez
20m kitty
30m Carroll, Skrtel, Spearing, Assaidi.

You can revamp the team with 90m IF they invest it all.

Reina
Johnson
Agger
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Enrique
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Gerrard
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Coutinho
Sterling
Sturridge




Borini
Suso
Aspas
Kelly
Kolo *wretches*

Etc

3 first teamers for 90m or 5 or 6 options?
 
It's hard to say so far because it's been a tale of two transfer windows.

Last summer remains pretty questionable as Allen has struggled and Borini has been injured. We'll probably have a better idea as we get into next season with those two.

The two signings he made in January have so far been fantastic.

So far we seem to be linked to the right kinda players (i.e. not the Downings and Barrys of this world) so it's looking encouraging. I've got a lot more faith in us spending the money correctly than I did last summer and summers previous.

Whether that is all down to Rodgers or the team behind him who knows but I'm hoping we see a repeat of the January window this summer.

It was one thing to waste money whilst we were in the top 4 but now the longer we spend in midtable the harder we'll find it to claw our way back out of it - we can't afford to waste money like we used to.
 
Rosco said:
See I think there's two separate sets of deals.

Group 1 - Rodgers on his own. And without knowing anything about how Yesil will turn out - they're shite transfers.

Group 2 - After the club has put in place the team of scouts and analysts, we get the second bunch of signings which are much better.

I'm expecting much more Group 2 signings rather than the usual - Premiership proven, worked with the manager before type bollocks that the first bunch represent.
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I think it was obvious Rodgers wanted Sturridge in the summer so I guess you could place him in 'Group 1'
 
white-sox said:
I think it was obvious Rodgers wanted Sturridge in the summer so I guess you could place him in 'Group 1'
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Maybe, but Rodgers turned him down in the summer when we were offered him on loan. After we didn't get Dempsey
 
Rosco said:
Maybe, but Rodgers turned him down in the summer when we were offered him on loan. After we didn't get Dempsey
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I thought it was the other way round - Sturridge didn't want a loan arrangement.
 
keniget said:
Ditto. That's how everyone was reporting it.
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Except Tony Barrett after the fact.

I'm going to have to find the article now .... everyone ignored it when I pointed it out at the time. They were all in a rage over the Dempsey veto
 
Manager faces up to Anfield’s age of austerity.​

“At a football club, there’s a holy trinity — the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.” - Bill Shankly.

On what would have been Bill Shankly’s 99th birthday, Brendan Rodgers faced up to the new reality of being Liverpool manager. The club’s directors may still be there to sign the cheques but only if potential signings fit in with their own long-term strategy and age profile, a lesson that Rodgers learnt to his cost on transfer deadline day.

Had Rodgers got his way on Friday, Clint Dempsey would have been in his starting line-up for the visit of Arsenal to Anfield. As it was, the loss of an internal power struggle with Fenway Sports Group, the Liverpool owners, meant that the United States player went to Tottenham Hotspur, leaving Rodgers able to call upon only Luis Suárez and Fabio Borini as senior attackers from now until January.

With the exception of Suárez and Steven Gerrard, Liverpool’s new-look midfield and forward line did not feature a single player who had scored a goal for the club before kick-off yesterday, a statistic that remained unaltered after the final whistle. On the substitutes’ bench, there was not a single forward. Stewart Downing — he of no league goals nor assists last season — was the only recognised attacking player and Rodgers has spent the opening weeks of the new season trying to convert the fitful winger into a left back.

Last weekend, when Manchester City were the visiting team, Rodgers could at least summon Andy Carroll from the bench and the forward came within a Jack Rodwell goalline clearance of winning the game. By then, though, Rodgers had long since deemed Carroll surplus to requirements and the decision to exile the 23-year-old on Thursday was a calculated gamble predicated on the idea that the paucity of attacking options left available to him would compel FSG to grant him his wish to sign Dempsey.

The inherent risk was that FSG would not back down on its belief that 29-year-olds, even ones who scored 22 goals last season, are not the future of the club. Note to Anfield: Robin van Persie is also 29. The Boston-based investment group sanctioned an offer for Dempsey but it was a half-hearted attempt with sources at the London club insisting that the bid was £3 million, although Liverpool dispute this version of events.

FSG had been willing to approve the recruitment of Daniel Sturridge, six years Dempsey’s junior, from Chelsea on loan with a view to a permanent transfer but Rodgers had been less keen. It came down to a battle of wills and Rodgers lost as his employers favoured their own philosophy and transfer strategy over their manager’s judgment. Yesterday Arsenal took advantage but it is hard to imagine, given Liverpool’s chronic lack of firepower, that Arsène Wenger’s side will be the last side to do so.

Rodgers now has a squad that is not fit for purpose and in allowing that to happen, FSG has taken a gamble of its own by putting performance and points at risk for the sake of its principles. It had the opportunity to recruit a player with the potential to give Liverpool at least a degree of the cutting edge that they so clearly lack but preferred to adhere to its own beliefs. With each Premier League place worth about £750,000 in additional prize money there is also a financial element to the risk and a possibility that signing Dempsey, even for a £6 million fee, could have turned out to be cost effective .

As the club that perhaps best captures the pre and post credit crunch era — bought on easy credit, taken to the brink of administration — there is something apt about Liverpool being at the heart of a debate about whether they should continue with austerity measures or spend their way out of the trouble that they find themselves in. But with three games of the season gone Liverpool have scored only two goals and neither came from open play.

Tom Werner, their chairman, claimed earlier this year that the club has “the resources to compete with anyone in football”. On the evidence of a summer in which too few cheques have been signed for Rodgers’s liking and one of his key transfer targets has been missed, that already seems little more than a fanciful boast.
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Ill require a second independent source to verify that, or else in going with everyone else's version.
 
I'll go with the version that says you're wrong in that case.
 
Rosco said:
See I think there's two separate sets of deals.

Group 1 - Rodgers on his own. And without knowing anything about how Yesil will turn out - they're shite transfers.

Group 2 - After the club has put in place the team of scouts and analysts, we get the second bunch of signings which are much better.

I'm expecting much more Group 2 signings rather than the usual - Premiership proven, worked with the manager before type bollocks that the first bunch represent.
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Exactly what I hope is true coz that group 1 is £30mil completely wasted. Not like we haven't done that before
 
I think he has earned himself a lot of trust really.

The Carroll saga was a mess, and he has admitted so himself indirectly I believe as we never should've let him leave without a new signing.

Others than that he's done better than one could've hoped for, and I like what I've heard too with regards to where we scout etc.

Trust him.
 
I trust Rodgers with the transfer kitty more than any manager since Bob Paisley! Unfortuantely this is a sad indictment of my lack of trust of all our managers since Sir Bob (coupled with Rodgers decent start in the transfer market).
 
But it's not Rodgers.... It's some shady unnamed committee that is bad for... EVERYTHING!!!!
 
Rosco said:
See I think there's two separate sets of deals.

Group 1 - Rodgers on his own. And without knowing anything about how Yesil will turn out - they're shite transfers.

Group 2 - After the club has put in place the team of scouts and analysts, we get the second bunch of signings which are much better.

I'm expecting much more Group 2 signings rather than the usual - Premiership proven, worked with the manager before type bollocks that the first bunch represent.
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Absolutely. The difference is night and day. I was so so underwhelmed by his targets last summer. Now virtually every player we're linked with is interesting or exciting in some way.

I'm very confident we'll spend it well.
 
I'm confident mostly because of the players we've been strongly linked to and signed. Basically doing what I've wanted: scouting for foreign bargains, going for younger players, and making sure when you do have to go for an older one, or specifically want one, to get good value.

Aspas, Luis Alberto, Ilori, Papadopoulos all look like shrewd targets/signings. Grenier, Luis Muriel and a few of the more persistent links also look great. I dunno, I just think we're obviously finally on the right path.
 
Amongst the shroud signings I'd love for us to sign a 20m plus player (who's worth it obviously) should Suarez be off.
It's nice getting value for money sub 20m but I want a player I can be really really excited about come August.
 
I think he's done very well with transfers. A couple of weird decisions with Sahin and Assaidi, and obviously I'm not enthused by Toure, but otherwise we're getting bright, technically adept players with a bit of flair.
 
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