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Hicks: Liverpool is sound, City is unsustainable

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Hicks: Liverpool is sound, City is unsustainable


LONDON (AP) -Tom Hicks has promised to reduce Liverpool's debts and strengthen the squad after revealing the club expects to generate 26 million pounds ($43 million) from British bank Standard Chartered and Danish beer Carlsberg next season.

Dismissing concerns about Liverpool's financial health and poor start to the season, the American co-owner said in an interview with The Associated Press that the Reds have never been stronger on or off the pitch.

While Liverpool's accountants expressed doubt over the future of the club's parent company in the 2007-08 financial books, they also highlighted record revenue of 159.1 million pounds. Hicks also maintains that Liverpool operates as a "smart club'' unlike Manchester City, whose business plan he branded unsustainable after an offseason of heavy spending.

"You have to look cash flow rather than accounting and we intend to operate Liverpool where it has a very strong positive cash flow so we have the resources to be as competitive as possible on the pitch - that's our commitment,'' Hicks said in a telephone interview. "We had strong, positive cash flows last year. Our debts levels are at a very comfortable level and we are going to continue bringing it down.

"Our goal is to have less debt than any of the top clubs and that's a commitment we have made and will continue to make.''

Hicks, along with fellow American co-owner George Gillett Jr., reduced the club's debt to 250 million pounds in July. Manchester United, which beat Liverpool to the Premier League title last season by four points, has debt of 650 million pounds.

Manchester City's free-spending Abu Dhabi owner has spent more than 120 million pounds since May strengthening the team.

"It's not sustainable at City, they won't continue to invest like that as it doesn't make good economic sense,'' Hicks said. "Hopefully they will make the improvements they need to make and then run it more like a business. The smart clubs operate for the long term and you have to look at who have had success for many years.''

Liverpool announced a shirt sponsorship agreement Monday with Standard Chartered and a planned new arrangement with Carlsberg, which had been the club's primary sponsor since 1991.

"We are seeing for the first time the real power of the brand and the power of a well managed club,'' Hicks said. "I feel very good about the entire club. The total sponsorship contracts should probably bring in 25, 26 million pounds of incremental revenue a year. It's a huge development for the club.''

Standard Chartered will bring in at least 21 million pounds each year from the 2010-11 season by replacing Carlsberg on the shirts. Hicks expects the company to contribute even more than that as the bank acquires new business globally.

"It's not just the 21 million pounds that we will develop from the new sponsorship agreement with Standard Chartered because we will have an additional two or three million pounds for the Infinity part of the deal with Standard Chartered,'' Hicks said. "We have an existing contract with Carlsberg until the end of the season. Between now and the end of the season we will finalize new arrangements where we will retain the Carlsberg special sponsorship packages and pour Carlsberg products in the stadium. They will be one of our key sponsors, just not on our shirts.''

Hicks expects manager Rafa Benitez to be contacting him and managing director Christian Purslow about using some of the revenue to buy players in the January transfer window.

"Knowing Rafa Benitez I suspect he's got his eye on part of it,'' Hicks said. "As we build our revenues it gives ability to be more competitive on the pitch and, this is a very important one, but we think we have other opportunities in the future as well.''

Having already lost two games this campaign - the same number as in all of 2008-09 - the Reds are fifth in the standings, six points behind leader Chelsea.

"Everybody involved with Liverpool wants to win the Premier League, it's been too many years and it's our goal,'' Hicks said. "I've been in sport for 15 years and sometimes you have to do things to get the players' attention to wake up and really get focused.

"Maybe we have learned the lesson (from the losses), certainly the way we played Saturday (beating Burnley 4-0) showed that we have. We have stability and the nucleus of the team.''

Uncertainty lingered over Anfield last season as Benitez's contract negotiations dragged on, but he committed himself to the club until 2014 and key players like Fernando Torres followed him by signing new deals.

"Everything is very stable. I think the management situation at the club has dramatically improved,'' Hicks said. "There is a real sense of optimism.''
 
I'm sure many of you will find fault with this article but I think Hicks said all the right things, now it is up to he and Gillette to follow through.

Oh and the bit about some $$$ for Rafa in January is good news indeed.
 
Fuck that - this cunt reneged on his major promise to not put debt on the club.

Its all very well saying we will be in a good position but its a position we should never have been put in in the first place.
 
I've said this plenty of times before, but it didn't matter whether debt was placed on the club or not. Ultimately the club was always going to pay for it. (regardless of who took over)
 
[quote author=Yoshi_Benayoun link=topic=35845.msg943996#msg943996 date=1253038569]
I'm sure many of you will find fault with this article but I think Hicks said all the right things, now it is up to he and Gillette to follow through.

Oh and the bit about some $$$ for Rafa in January is good news indeed.
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As is the 25/26M we have from sponsorship alone from next season on. Healthy. Very Healthy.
 
[quote author=Rafiagra link=topic=35845.msg943997#msg943997 date=1253039162]
Fuck that - this cunt reneged on his major promise to not put debt on the club.

Its all very well saying we will be in a good position but its a position we should never have been put in in the first place.
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Strictly speaking they didn't put the debt on the club, they put it on a holding company. I realize you don't care about the distinction, but in strict accounting terms and in his mind he didn't lie.
 
[quote author=Yoshi_Benayoun link=topic=35845.msg943996#msg943996 date=1253038569]
I'm sure many of you will find fault with this article but I think Hicks said all the right things, now it is up to he and Gillette to follow through.

Oh and the bit about some $$$ for Rafa in January is good news indeed.
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I don't find fault Yoshi I'll just believe it when I see it. The Yanks have delivered on few of their promises.
 
they always say the right things. actions are what to watch. words come easy.

fooled me once.....won't get fooled again...as W would say
 
Where does it say we'll be spending in January ?

It mentions Hicks says he expects Rafa to be looking for funds, there's nothing there that suggests he'll get them.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=35845.msg944013#msg944013 date=1253040335]
[quote author=Yoshi_Benayoun link=topic=35845.msg943996#msg943996 date=1253038569]
I'm sure many of you will find fault with this article but I think Hicks said all the right things, now it is up to he and Gillette to follow through.

Oh and the bit about some $$$ for Rafa in January is good news indeed.
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I don't find fault Yoshi I'll just believe it when I see it. The Yanks have delivered on few of their promises.
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In fairness to the Yanks, they got the shitty end of the stick with the timing of the recession though

regards
 
Top of the 'Small Debt League' then.

That's gotta make the neverending wait for Number 19 a lot more palatable.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35845.msg944119#msg944119 date=1253053656]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=35845.msg944013#msg944013 date=1253040335]
[quote author=Yoshi_Benayoun link=topic=35845.msg943996#msg943996 date=1253038569]
I'm sure many of you will find fault with this article but I think Hicks said all the right things, now it is up to he and Gillette to follow through.

Oh and the bit about some $$$ for Rafa in January is good news indeed.
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I don't find fault Yoshi I'll just believe it when I see it. The Yanks have delivered on few of their promises.
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In fairness to the Yanks, they got the shitty end of the stick with the timing of the recession though

regards
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In fairness to the Yanks - they are the shitty end of the stick.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35845.msg944104#msg944104 date=1253050422]
Where does it say we'll be spending in January ?

It mentions Hicks says he expects Rafa to be looking for funds, there's nothing there that suggests he'll get them.
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I was being sarcastic.
 
[quote author=Mersey86 link=topic=35845.msg944163#msg944163 date=1253065566]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35845.msg944119#msg944119 date=1253053656]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=35845.msg944013#msg944013 date=1253040335]
[quote author=Yoshi_Benayoun link=topic=35845.msg943996#msg943996 date=1253038569]
I'm sure many of you will find fault with this article but I think Hicks said all the right things, now it is up to he and Gillette to follow through.

Oh and the bit about some $$$ for Rafa in January is good news indeed.
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I don't find fault Yoshi I'll just believe it when I see it. The Yanks have delivered on few of their promises.
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In fairness to the Yanks, they got the shitty end of the stick with the timing of the recession though

regards
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In fairness to the Yanks - they are the shitty end of the stick.
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Ho ho, very good I see what you did there

regards
 
Rafa said in another interview yesterday that he hoped to sign a couple of new players in January 'because clearly we need to' (or something like that - it was in the Guardian). I wonder what positions he's thinking of, and what money we'll have available. I don't like January signings really - it's a shame this sponsorship deal wasn't finalised a couple of months earlier.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35845.msg944104#msg944104 date=1253050422]
Where does it say we'll be spending in January ?

It mentions Hicks says he expects Rafa to be looking for funds, there's nothing there that suggests he'll get them.
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Disagree. Sensitivity may not be his middle name, but I can't see him having raised the subject at all if he's already planning to knock such a request back completely.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=35845.msg944240#msg944240 date=1253095472]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35845.msg944104#msg944104 date=1253050422]
Where does it say we'll be spending in January ?

It mentions Hicks says he expects Rafa to be looking for funds, there's nothing there that suggests he'll get them.
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Disagree. Sensitivity may not be his middle name, but I can't see him having raised the subject at all if he's already planning to knock such a request back completely.
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He's talking about Standard Chartered money. We will not see that until next season so expecting it to be spent in January is a bit presumptious I would of thought.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=35845.msg944257#msg944257 date=1253098431]
Not necessarily, if they use it as security for borrowing at that stage.
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=35845.msg944187#msg944187 date=1253085673]
Rafa said in another interview yesterday that he hoped to sign a couple of new players in January 'because clearly we need to' (or something like that - it was in the Guardian). I wonder what positions he's thinking of, and what money we'll have available. I don't like January signings really - it's a shame this sponsorship deal wasn't finalised a couple of months earlier.
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Anyone have a link to this interview, I couldn't find it?
 
Rafael Benítez has claimed the Premier League's new quota on home-grown players is being introduced too quickly and fails to address the fundamental problem of a lack of quality in the British game.

The Liverpool manager has long called for an overhaul of the academy system in England, including a proposal for leading Premier League reserve teams to compete in League Two, and will be deeply affected by the requirement for eight home-grown players in a 25-man league squad next season. Liverpool have one of the highest proportions of foreign talent in the country and only met the Champions League criteria of eight home-grown players in a 28-man squad this season by including Stephen Darby, Martin Kelly, Jay Spearing, Nathan Eccleston and David Amoo on their list. Not one has ever appeared in the Premier League for Liverpool.

Benítez, who takes charge of his 300th game as Liverpool manager against Debrecen in the Champions League tonight, accepts the Premier League has been under pressure to introduce a quota system but fears its regulation addresses only quantity, not quality.

"Maybe it has been brought in too soon," said the Liverpool manager. "In the Champions League we had two or three years to increase home-grown players. The problem in England is that there is a big gap between the academies and the first team. The reserve league is not filling this gap. It may now be difficult to maintain quality, but we will continue to do our best. The number of players is not the point, the quality is the point.

"If a top side has to find eight players from the academy straight away, it may well be difficult. Academies do not produce too many in England, [home-grown] players tend to play in lower divisions because they may not be good enough for the very top. Clubs have to bring in the best young players from around the world at a young age to produce the quality and we have been expecting some sort of rule change like this."

Liverpool have embarked on a global recruitment policy for young players under Benítez and, like Arsène Wenger, the Spaniard believes the Premier League should be more concerned with attracting the best talent than British passports: "People talk too much about the age of players and where they are from. They forget about quality. The Premier League is the best league in the world because of the quality, not because of where the players come from. Players like Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney and Steven Gerrard - when they were 17 - were playing in the first teams. But not too many, because the level is too high. Most players need time but between 18 and 21 years of age, the reserve league is not good enough for them."

Benítez admitted he expects to recruit more first-team players when the transfer window reopensin January, although he is not sure whether he can receive an advance on Liverpool's new £20m-a-year sponsorship deal with Standard Chartered, which will come into effect for the 2010-11 season. "We haven't spoken about when money will be available, it is too early," said Benítez. "But we will talk about January because clearly we need to do something. You have to be pleased [with the deal] because it shows the club is moving in the right direction. Bringing more money in maybe means we have more money in the transfer budget. It's also positive for the image of the club."

Last night Liverpool's co-owner Tom Hicks said reducing the club's debt was a priority. "Our debts levels are at a very comfortable level and we are going to continue bringing it down," said the Texan who, along with George Gillett, has agreed to reduce Liverpool's debt with the Royal Bank of Scotland by £60m to £250m over the next year. "Our goal is to have less debt than any of the top clubs and that's a commitment we have made and will continue to make." He described Manchester City's heavy spending as "not sustainable ... They won't continue to invest like that as it doesn't make good economic sense."

Benítez confirmed he is to appeal the Football Association's decision to charge him with improper conduct following criticism of the referee Phil Dowd after last month's defeat at Tottenham Hotspur. His immediate focus, however, is the meeting with Debrecen, the first Hungarian team to reach this stage of the Champions League since 1995. "It's not easy to know the real level of the other team but our reports say they are a good team so we won't change many players," added Benítez.
 
Good stuff, I read just the bit you highlighted in another thread and it made Rafa look like he was saying the first team is in dire straits, but in the context of this article i think it's clear he's talking about the home grown situation. I think in january we'll seen one good signing and a maybe a cheap English signing, even though that's a contridiction.
 
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