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"The legend of this club has been based on nights like this, big games and big comebacks," said Rodgers. "I was here for the first Chelsea semi-final, for the 'ghost goal'. For me, it wasn't a goal. That was the sheer force of the crowd that got the goal. José Mourinho spoke at that time of how he didn't think it was over the line but the bottom line is that the referee gave it. It was under massive influence, there is no doubt about that."

Not a goal? What are you? A piece of goal line technology?
 
The referee has been quoted as saying if he hadn't given the goal then he would have given a penalty and sent Cech off.And yet whether or not it was a goal is still brought up and debated-I don't think Mourinho would have preferred Cech off ,down to 10 men and 1-0 by penalty in 1 min.As if it was just the 'ghost goal'that got us through.That is the myth.
 
redblack7 said:
The referee has been quoted as saying if he hadn't given the goal then he would have given a penalty and sent Cech off.And yet whether or not it was a goal is still brought up and debated-I don't think Mourinho would have preferred Cech off ,down to 10 men and 1-0 by penalty in 1 min.As if it was just the 'ghost goal'that got us through.That is the myth.
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Agree totally. Why does no one EVER bring up the penalty and red card that we would have seen if the goal hadn't stood. And fuck Rodgers for saying that. The man needs someone walking behind him with a roll of gaffer tape. Never shuts up and mostly talks bollocks.
 
I dont believe it crossed the line, but I believe if you stopped play at the time and offered Mourinho the option to let the goal to stand or concede a penalty and play 87+ minutes at Anfield with 10 men he would 100% have wanted the goal to stand
 
Of course he wouldn't but it gives him something to make an excuse out of.

No doubt if he had sent him off and awarded the penalty, Jose would have complained that it had gone in and that was punishment enough so there was no need for a red card.
 
RedStar said:
I dont believe it crossed the line, but I believe if you stopped play at the time and offered Mourinho the option to let the goal to stand or concede a penalty and play 87+ minutes at Anfield with 10 men he would 100% have wanted the goal to stand
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Truth. He needed 1 goal no matter if we scored or not. It is better to play with 11 than 10 to get that 1 goal.
 
localny said:
"The legend of this club has been based on nights like this, big games and big comebacks," said Rodgers. "I was here for the first Chelsea semi-final, for the 'ghost goal'. For me, it wasn't a goal. That was the sheer force of the crowd that got the goal. José Mourinho spoke at that time of how he didn't think it was over the line but the bottom line is that the referee gave it. It was under massive influence, there is no doubt about that."

Not a goal? What are you? A piece of goal line technology?
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I agree it wasn't a goal, but if it wasn't a goal then it was a fucking massive whopping penalty.
 
Television replays were inconclusive as to whether the ball crossed the line or not. Micheľ said that his decision was based on the reaction of the assistant referee, and had he not awarded Liverpool the goal, he would have had no other alternative but to award them a penalty kick and send off Chelsea goalkeeper Petr Čech for a foul on Milan Baroš.[2]
After studying a series of still images of the incident, motion expert Mike Spann concluded that Micheľ had made the correct decision by signaling a goal. The positioning and body movements of Chelsea's William Gallas, who tried to clear Luis García's shot with his right foot, as well as the movement of the ball relative to Gallas, led Spann to conclude: "It was a goal."[3]


So there you have it. Wiki speaks!
 
Why do people get so wound up about this - Mourinho was just looking for an excuse. As someone said if the ref had sent off Czec and given a pen he woudl have complained that he shoudl have let the goal stand (bit like Aresenal in the CL final)

Yet every time it comes up a load of people go out of their way to explain how Mourinho is wrong .. which itself is a tautology.
 
As far as I can see the only person wound up about it is Mourinho. Answering the point when it's raised doesn't automatically entail "getting wound up" over it.
 
It happened 8 years ago. Couldnt really care what Rodgers called it or not. We won the final in the end. Thats the important thing!
 
Judge Jules said:
Should have been a goal AND a red card. The Chavs got off lightly.

No biggie really IMO but it was a daft thing for Rodgers to say, even if it was/is his honest opinion.
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That's always bemused me. If the ref thought it was a red card offence, it was a red card offence regardless of whether there was a goal scored, surely?
 
Of course it was, but this kind of unofficial balancing act is what idiot commentators have in mind when they prattle on about "common sense".
 
I remember the day after it happened I was speaking to some fucking moron about the incident and pointed out that Chelsea got off lightly, and he claimed that it wasn't a penalty because Baros 'jumped into Cech'.

There was something like murder in my eyes.
 
Judge Jules said:
As far as I can see the only person wound up about it is Mourinho. Answering the point when it's raised doesn't automatically entail "getting wound up" over it.
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But you know Mourinho doesnt read this forum, so answerign the point is just preaching to the converted.
 
gkmacca said:
That's always bemused me. If the ref thought it was a red card offence, it was a red card offence regardless of whether there was a goal scored, surely?
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Make sense to me, it's a red card because it denies a clear goal scoring opportunity, if the goal is scored however, it's then redundant.
 
I thought you cant play advantage in a penaly situation. Isnt that what people were saying on Sunday when Webb didnt give the penalty to Sturridge.
 
I saw it again and Webb didn't even signal for advantage. He must not of thought it was a penalty. I think his view was blocked, TBH.
 
I think the ref can play advantage, and see how it develops. If no goal is scored (even if its a Rosenthal-esque miss) then there was no advantage so he pulls it back for a penalty.

Well that''s how it works in the world of tombrown anyway
 
Tal said:
This may be rhetorical but I think it's helpful to alert those who don't know that Rodgers was the Chelsea youth team manager in 2005.
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And? He's now MANAGER of Liverpool. If he's never going to shut up about how special the club is, and how knowledgeable the fans are maybe he should choose his words more carefully.
 
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