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Liverpool and Everton “must share†new ground
Liverpool and Everton must share a new stadium for it to be included in England's 2018 football World Cup bid, according to the head of the city's 2018 bid committee.

Warren Bradley, the leader of Liverpool City Council, told UK newspaper the Observer that currently “Anfield and Goodison Park do not fit FIFA's criteriaâ€.

The prospective Stanley Park stadium would be situated half-way between the two clubs, where Liverpool has said it would like to build its own new ground. The ground-share is an idea backed by the North-West Regional Development Agency, a major stakeholder in the city's bid.

“There is a need for a 60,000 fit-for-purpose, 21st-century stadium in Liverpool. It would cost around £300 million,†he said. “Sure, we still have the tribalistic supporters in the city who would say, 'I won't sit in it after a Liverpudlian or Evertonian has.' But that's not the argument, is it? I don't see any reason why it can't work – it does so across the southern hemisphere, and in Germany, Italy and America.â€

Bradley added that he will chair a meeting over the coming fortnight of the stakeholders involved in the city's bid to be part of England 2018, including the directors of Liverpool and Everton. At this point it is believed Liverpool’s financial situation may be clearer, as the club is currently attempting to refinance part of its debt with the Royal Bank of Scotland.

Posted : Mon, 08/06/2009 - 08:17
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Unreliable wiki, I know, but hmmm...: "He is a supporter of the campaign to keep Everton FC, whom he is a fan of, within the city of Liverpool."
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=34053.msg884350#msg884350 date=1244474010]
Then let's not include it in the world cup
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I agree.
 
fair enough, let the fa or the city council pay for it then else fuck off trying to tell us what to do!
 
Hmmm, yeah let's sacrifice everything this club stands for for England's World Cup bid!

Great thinking.
 
The Observer also carried this story yesterday. In it, Warren Bradley admitted to having been a season ticket holder at Goodison for over 30 years.
 
This kind of weaselly chiselling is one of the reasons why I despise that club even more than ManUre. Bunch of bitter blue bastards who want a free ride on our backs. Sh!t 'em.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=34053.msg884464#msg884464 date=1244480068]
Bunch of bitter blue bastards who want a free ride on our backs. Sh!t 'em.
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*waves Order paper*

Hear, hear, hear.
 
Bradley won't let it go, ably backed up by his Bluenose mates in the NWDA, who were a major obstacle in the plans for our new cash cow.
 
Well, they can all pull their foreskins over their heads and whistle down the hole. It ain't gonna happen.

Did I mention I was against the idea too? ;D
 
tbh..

Lets be realistic...

Our stadium is never going to get built under the current climate...

I was against the idea but I think as fans we have to bite the bullet and consider the share ground...

If we had agreed to this principle when the idea was first thrown about.. we would be in a new stadium by now... being able to compete in the transfer market... As it stands neither team Everton or Liverpool are anywhere near a new stadium...

The biggest rivals in football share grounds.. so what is so different here... ???


To move forward we simply need to get a new stadium built... currently we are standing still, if not backwards in terms of finances..
 
A brand new 60,000 stadium for free and all that extra corporate dosh?

I think Dastardly and Mutley would jump at the chance if they thought they'd get away it.
 
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=34053.msg884479#msg884479 date=1244480755]
tbh..

Lets be realistic...

Our stadium is never going to get built under the current climate...

I think as fans we have to bite the bullet and consider the share ground..

If we had agreed to this principle when the idea was first thrown about.. we would be in a new stadium by now... being able to compete in the transfer market... As it stands neither team Everton or Liverpool are anywhere near a new stadium...

The biggest rivals in football share grounds.. so what is so different here... ???


To move forward we simply need to get a new stadium built... currently we are standing still....


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Nonsense. If we're going to leave our perfectly acceptable spiritual home, it will be to our own stadium. We don't need Everton hanging on our coat tails, especially as they will have it all to gain from brand association and all that crap.
 
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=34053.msg884479#msg884479 date=1244480755]
tbh..

Lets be realistic...

Our stadium is never going to get built under the current climate...

I was against the idea but I think as fans we have to bite the bullet and consider the share ground...

If we had agreed to this principle when the idea was first thrown about.. we would be in a new stadium by now... being able to compete in the transfer market...  As it stands neither team Everton or Liverpool are anywhere near a new stadium...

The biggest rivals in football share grounds..  so what is so different here...  ???


To move forward we simply need to get a new stadium built... currently we are standing still....


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I don't think that bit is definite - and, even if it is, I don't think a combined stadium will necessarily have an easier time becoming a reality.  The bluesh!te will contribute sweet Football Association, and the public bodies we'd be looking at to provide the main backing are going to be in a very harsh economic climate themselves for a long time to come.
 
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34053.msg884482#msg884482 date=1244480996]
[quote author=jono@home link=topic=34053.msg884479#msg884479 date=1244480755]
tbh..

Lets be realistic...

Our stadium is never going to get built under the current climate...

I think as fans we have to bite the bullet and consider the share ground..

If we had agreed to this principle when the idea was first thrown about.. we would be in a new stadium by now... being able to compete in the transfer market... As it stands neither team Everton or Liverpool are anywhere near a new stadium...

The biggest rivals in football share grounds.. so what is so different here... ???


To move forward we simply need to get a new stadium built... currently we are standing still....


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Nonsense. If we're going to leave our perfectly acceptable spiritual home, it will be to our own stadium. We don't need Everton hanging on our coat tails, especially as they will have it all to gain from brand association and all that crap.
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thats just the typical stereotype bollox i am on about... sharing a ground, does not mean they will be hanging on to our coat tails..

They will be run as complety separate business like both the milan clubs are.. Neither depend on each other.. Sharing a high capacity stadium if anything will enhance both clubs and the culture of the city (milan is a fine example of that!). As I say currently we are both standing still

in my opinion it has to be considered if we are as a club are to move forward..
 
Piffle. A combined stadium would require contributions from us and from those meddlers in NWDA and the City Council. The blueslime would contribute f'ck all because they've got f'ck all. We'd be giving them a giant step up.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=34053.msg884494#msg884494 date=1244481556]
Piffle. A combined stadium would require contributions from us and from those meddlers in NWDA and the City Council. The blueslime would contribute f'ck all because they've got f'ck all. We'd be giving them a giant step up.
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Exactly.

You want a ground share?

No problem.

That'll be 200 million,you fucking Bitter cheapskates.
 
Says it all about the small time nature of our fellow neighbours, that everytime this comes up for discussion it's usually a bluenose that's pushing it.
 
Have to say I'm with Jono@home on this one, maybe its time we swallowed our pride and get the fucking thing built, if we get equal grants and equal contributions from both clubs it really does make economic sense to ground share.

I know its not the ideal and theres an argument that we'd lose some of our tradition, but in an Ideal world I'd drive a BMW and live in a mansion. The alternative is to wait around for a sugar daddy to come in and happily squander his cash on us, how long have we been waiting for that eh?

Seems to work well in Milan as has already been mentioned
 
There's more to football than 'economic sense', and Inter are desperate for their own stadium.

It's easy to support the idea if you're not surrounded by bitter bastards every day of the week.

We just stay where we are.
 
[quote author=Bob Loblaw link=topic=34053.msg884502#msg884502 date=1244483432]
Have to say I'm with Jono@home on this one, maybe its time we swallowed our pride and get the fucking thing built, if we get equal grants and equal contributions from both clubs it really does make economic sense to ground share.

I know its not the ideal and theres an argument that we'd lose some of our tradition, but in an Ideal world I'd drive a BMW and live in a mansion. The alternative is to wait around for a sugar daddy to come in and happily squander his cash on us, how long have we been waiting for that eh?

Seems to work well in Milan as has already been mentioned
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my sentiments exactly... just get the thing built... a awesome stadium could be built with grants and contributions from both clubs, the money left over could be used to invest in helping keep some of traditions.
 
[quote author=David Byrne link=topic=34053.msg884503#msg884503 date=1244483551]
There's more to football than 'economic sense', and Inter are desperate for their own stadium.

It's easy to support the idea if you're not surrounded by bitter bastards every day of the week.

We just stay where we are.
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inter are not desperate for their own stadium, they are very happy at their current home or so I am led to believe..

Thats Juventus I think you are mixing that up with...

edit - I AM TALKING BOLLOX... sorry

Inter to leave San Siro
as Moratti orders new stadium

The project is expected to get the go ahead by the end of the year and will draw inspiration from the Allianz Arena, home of Bayern Munich. The new multi-functional, 60,000 seater venue should be ready by 2012

MILAN, 15 October 2008 - Massimo Moratti is no doubt going to be the brains behind Inter's big move. Approval of his plans for the club's very own stadium is just around the corner. After careful examination and meticulous planning, the financial backing should confirmed by the end of the year, even by early December. Then, all going well, the Nerazzurri will be pensioning off San Siro from the 2012-2013 season.
MODELS - The exact location of the new stadium is a secret Moratti is very carefully guarding, even though fingers are already pointing at the Rho-Pero area, very close to the motorway and with good underground connections (red line). This is where the Olympic stadium would have been erected if Milan had won its bid for the 2000 Olympics. Moratti doesn't want to build a white elephant and the fact that Milan has been named as the Expo 2015 location will help him considerably in this regard, whatever the site finally picked. The plan at Inter headquarters is to build a 60,000 seater stadium along the lines of Ajax's ground (Amsterdam Arena, UEFA 5-star with seating for more than 50,000) and Bayern Munich's (Allianz Arena, 5-star plus with seating for almost 70,000 spectators). More specifically, the model Massimo Moratti's men seem to be more taken with is the Bavarian team's home ground: a multi-functional complex with restaurants (from upmarket establishments to self service eateries and traditional pubs), a shopping gallery and even a day-care centre to "park" children not that interested in the match. There are three main areas (entry depending on the ticket purchased): private business stands, VIP area and stands for the crowds.
 
It won't happen, we've heard it all before, it's just political bluster from the worst performing council in Europe and their Bluenose leader, who is trying to save face over the Kirkby issue.

They should be focused on regenerating L4/5, which they've let rot for years, without the aid of a football club and free handouts.
 
Do Inter get many fans going to the game?

Every time I see a Serie A game or highlights, the stands are half empty.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=34053.msg884350#msg884350 date=1244474010]
Then let's not include it in the world cup
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what world cup?? .... like we are getting one of those ffs...

fucking nonsense by Bradley again and he should fucking well know better.
 
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