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Golden Boy 2013 - Your Top 5
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How did Bruma get to Gala?
Based on the ones I've seen:
1) Pogba (by far the best on this last - no one is even close to him)
2) Varane
3) Nastasic
4) Lukaku
5) Draxler
Based on the ones I've seen:
1) Pogba (by far the best on this last - no one is even close to him)
2) Varane
3) Nastasic
4) Lukaku
5) Draxler
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My pick:
Paul Pogba, 20
In my opinion probably the biggest talent around in a long while. Doesn't seem to miss a beat, can tackle, can shoot, can run, can jump, can pass, is extremely powerful and got splendid skills. Every time I see him play I wonder what on earth went on at Old Trafford. I have said a while back that I believe we should break the bank for this kid and though it won't happen he would be worth every penny even we are talking +£50M that's how good I think he is.
Raphael Varane, 20
Having impressed as a central defender (even when at RB) at such tender age at one of the biggest clubs in the world bodes well for his future. Looks so calm you'd think he was turning 31 next and not 21. The fact he's French like Pogba makes you think Les Bleus could muster a rather potent International team in a near future. These two won't let them down at least.
Romelu Lukaku, 20
Everyone on hear seems to rate him and rightly so. Imagine what this 20-year-old kid will be able to achieve if he continues to develop. Amazingly strong and yet fast. Physique like few and yet very skilled on the ball with good fast feet too. A handful for everyone in the air as well. I do not know what Mourinho was thinking loaning him out again as he looks every bit ready to take the step up imo.
Viktor Fischer, 19
Has not had the best of starts to the new Season and has perhaps struggled a bit to find his new role in the Ajax team without teammate Eriksen alongside him to spary the passes and make them tick. Has looked to be more involved in central which has given his form a knock. Still one the most impressive and talented 1-on-1 players I have seen. Does have a lot of Suarez about his game when it comes to the close dribble, the opportune way of addressing the game and his eye for goal. Also looks to be improving on set-pieces.
Bruma, 19
Another Portuguese winger that can both turn 3 defenders and score the goals. Already very highly rated but chose Gala ahead of Chelsea which probably was a wise choice. Like Fischer likes to roam from left and in central showing great pace, skill and overall ability. He is young and as with Fischer got a lot to learn still, and he is too easy to close down still. I watched him closely when facing FC Copenhagen of late with Gala, a game the Turks lost, and he struggled to make an impact, still showed glimpses of his massive talent however. Seems like a blend between Cristiano Ronaldo and Nani.
Just missing out
Draxler, Quintero and Januzaj - the United player would be in the Top 5 if we looked at the Autumn 2013 alone, but it is still to early to say whether he is a new Ronaldo or Marcheda. Signs does point more in the direction of the former, sadly, seeing where he plays.
PS There are players I have never ever seen why my Top 5 could be and probably is pretty flawed. Quintero for instance I have never seen in action, only in a few tube clips, but he seems to be rated massively why he will probably feature in the top of the list.
Paul Pogba, 20
In my opinion probably the biggest talent around in a long while. Doesn't seem to miss a beat, can tackle, can shoot, can run, can jump, can pass, is extremely powerful and got splendid skills. Every time I see him play I wonder what on earth went on at Old Trafford. I have said a while back that I believe we should break the bank for this kid and though it won't happen he would be worth every penny even we are talking +£50M that's how good I think he is.
Raphael Varane, 20
Having impressed as a central defender (even when at RB) at such tender age at one of the biggest clubs in the world bodes well for his future. Looks so calm you'd think he was turning 31 next and not 21. The fact he's French like Pogba makes you think Les Bleus could muster a rather potent International team in a near future. These two won't let them down at least.
Romelu Lukaku, 20
Everyone on hear seems to rate him and rightly so. Imagine what this 20-year-old kid will be able to achieve if he continues to develop. Amazingly strong and yet fast. Physique like few and yet very skilled on the ball with good fast feet too. A handful for everyone in the air as well. I do not know what Mourinho was thinking loaning him out again as he looks every bit ready to take the step up imo.
Viktor Fischer, 19
Has not had the best of starts to the new Season and has perhaps struggled a bit to find his new role in the Ajax team without teammate Eriksen alongside him to spary the passes and make them tick. Has looked to be more involved in central which has given his form a knock. Still one the most impressive and talented 1-on-1 players I have seen. Does have a lot of Suarez about his game when it comes to the close dribble, the opportune way of addressing the game and his eye for goal. Also looks to be improving on set-pieces.
Bruma, 19
Another Portuguese winger that can both turn 3 defenders and score the goals. Already very highly rated but chose Gala ahead of Chelsea which probably was a wise choice. Like Fischer likes to roam from left and in central showing great pace, skill and overall ability. He is young and as with Fischer got a lot to learn still, and he is too easy to close down still. I watched him closely when facing FC Copenhagen of late with Gala, a game the Turks lost, and he struggled to make an impact, still showed glimpses of his massive talent however. Seems like a blend between Cristiano Ronaldo and Nani.
Just missing out
Draxler, Quintero and Januzaj - the United player would be in the Top 5 if we looked at the Autumn 2013 alone, but it is still to early to say whether he is a new Ronaldo or Marcheda. Signs does point more in the direction of the former, sadly, seeing where he plays.
PS There are players I have never ever seen why my Top 5 could be and probably is pretty flawed. Quintero for instance I have never seen in action, only in a few tube clips, but he seems to be rated massively why he will probably feature in the top of the list.
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It seems we can almost agree on a top 3. 🙂
Fischer's not done anything this year man as you say. Draxler is an active member of the Germany set up and Nastasic was starting on a premier league winning team already at the age of 18!!
Marquinhos is good but he's not getting that many games ...
Marquinhos is good but he's not getting that many games ...
1. Draxler - Contributed 1/4 of Schalke's league goals (was joint top scorer alongside Huntelaar), playing a major part in their CL qualification
2. Pogba - Promising debut season in 12/13 and his continued improvement is evident in his contribution for 30% of Juventus' league goals this season.
3. Lukaku - 1st season playing regular football at England's top flight level. Played a part in 24 of WBA's 53 league goals (45%). Not that we needed this stat to prove his worth.
4. Maher - Built upon his debut season and was the bright light in a poor season by AZ's standards where they finished in 2nd half of table. Played a massive part in their Dutch Cup victory where he assisted in every round of their cup run and rounded things up by scoring in the final against PSV (2-1).
5. Icardi - Goals and assists (32% of their league goals) helped kept Sampdoria up last season. Already scored 2 in 6 sub appearances for Inter prior to injury last month.
2. Pogba - Promising debut season in 12/13 and his continued improvement is evident in his contribution for 30% of Juventus' league goals this season.
3. Lukaku - 1st season playing regular football at England's top flight level. Played a part in 24 of WBA's 53 league goals (45%). Not that we needed this stat to prove his worth.
4. Maher - Built upon his debut season and was the bright light in a poor season by AZ's standards where they finished in 2nd half of table. Played a massive part in their Dutch Cup victory where he assisted in every round of their cup run and rounded things up by scoring in the final against PSV (2-1).
5. Icardi - Goals and assists (32% of their league goals) helped kept Sampdoria up last season. Already scored 2 in 6 sub appearances for Inter prior to injury last month.
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Fischer has done loads this year mate, he just not had a very good start to the new campaign this Autumn. It feels like he hasn't scored in ages from his position on the wing in Ajax' 4-3-3 but fact is he is yet on 11 goals in 35 games and only turned 19 this Summer.
Nastasic looks a good defender but is also playing in a team that doesn't look particular balanced at the back. He hasn't won the Prem either, but perhaps that wasn't what you meant?
It is hard to weigh and rate talent, but imo Fischer is a bigger talent than Nastasic, not by much but still. No worries if you don't agree. I do find it odd though you rate the Serb more than Lukaku who has taken the Premier League by storm.
I meant that he was starting for a team that had just won the premier league as an 18 year old ... that takes quite some doing. That's why I put him ahead of Lukaku. Lukaku in the long run will be a better player (I think), but I'm not going on long run!
Nonetheless, I think Pogba is by far the biggest talent overall on the list. I just hope the lure of Manure doesn't bring him back there.
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Interesting list mate. I see you haven't mentioned Varane. Controversial!!
Maher has had a rather quiet start with PSV hasn't he? And I have never heard of Icardi, will certainly look out for him.
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That is a nice achievement I just don't think that in itself should give him a wild card to the top 5. Lukaku has been a much more dominant figure imo.
From what I have seen he looks good but has also been involved in a few goals and made some clumsy errors. Which is obviously completely normal at that age unless you are Varane.
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Will be on the list next year I am sure.
PSV are pretty much in transition with the no. of players that left (Strootman, Mertens, Lens, Pieters, Bouma and Van Bommel) and new coach in Phillip Cocu (managerial debut too). Think they have only won once in their last 7 matches. Don't think he had much break or full pre-season too, seeing that he was involved in the UEFA U21 Championships followed by involvement in CL qualification with PSV.
Icardi earned his 1st call up for Argentina last month.
For me, one important criteria for this award is the player's achievement in the seasonal year. Varane had some good performances but throughout last season and the current one, I don't think he has played a straight run of games in the starting XI. Think the longest was 5-7 games in a row. 🙂
How many 18 year olds come to a new team in a new league and force themselves over the CB pairing that just won the premier league? Nice achievement? It's not heard of - imagine if Agger had come to Liverpool as an 18 year old and replaced Carra or Hyypia immediately? It's a testament to how good he is (Varane couldn't do it, and I think he only got in because Pepe was injured/suspended or had pissed off Mourinho). Varane will be the better CB imo - but Nastasic has done more in the past year than he has (I haven't watched many Real games - is he playing regularly under Ancelotti?)
The one mistake I remember was the one with Chelsea, where Torres scored the goal, but that seemed to be Hart's mistake more than his. I will say that he is far far better with Kompany besides him. He compliment his game far more than Garcia, Demichellis or Lescott.
Will keep an eye out on him - seems like we got the wrong "He saved the team from Relegation and speaks Spanish" player! 😉
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There is a MAJOR difference in winning a place in a team over Lescott compared to Hyppia or Carra.
You are putting far to much emphasis on his age compared to the fact he has been picked for City. They are not playing as a Premier League winning side at this stage, not so much because of their attack but but more so down to defense. He has played 29 games so far overall so he can't have made the spot completely his own until recently either?
Regardless of Lescott not being the same player as Hyypia or Carra, he had formed a defensive partnership with Kompany that had the best defensive (or 2nd behind Manure, definitely 1 or 2 though) record in the premier league. He was also starting for England ... Pushing him aside on a team that was expected to win the league AND compete in Europe is saying a lot ...
Alas, I'm done. Hav en god dag!
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Yeah you too mate 🙂
Wha?
KHL misspelled Binny
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I felt I was pushing it today with Binny... It was a bit of wild shot. Sometimes Fabs seems to know stuff. Or knows someone that knows.
Soz.
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2012
1st: Isco
2nd: Stephen El-Shaarway
3rd: Thibaut Courtois
2011
1st: Mario Goetze
2nd:Thiago Alcantara
3rd: Eden Hazard
2010
1st: Mario Balotelli
2nd: Jack Wilshere
3rd: David de Gea
2009
1st: Alexandre Pato
2nd: Stevan Jovetic
3rd: Bojan Krkic
2008
1st: Anderson
2nd: Theo Walcott
3rd: Sergio Aguero
2007
Sergio Agüero
2006
1st: Cesc Fábregas
2nd: Lionel Messi
3rd: Anderson
2005
1st: Lionel Messi
2nd: Wayne Rooney
3rd: Lukas Podolski
2004
1st: Wayne Rooney
2nd: Cristiano Ronaldo
3rd: Fernando Torres
2003
1st: Rafael Van der Vaart
2nd: Wayne Rooney
3rd: Cristiano Ronaldo
1st: Isco
2nd: Stephen El-Shaarway
3rd: Thibaut Courtois
2011
1st: Mario Goetze
2nd:Thiago Alcantara
3rd: Eden Hazard
2010
1st: Mario Balotelli
2nd: Jack Wilshere
3rd: David de Gea
2009
1st: Alexandre Pato
2nd: Stevan Jovetic
3rd: Bojan Krkic
2008
1st: Anderson
2nd: Theo Walcott
3rd: Sergio Aguero
2007
Sergio Agüero
2006
1st: Cesc Fábregas
2nd: Lionel Messi
3rd: Anderson
2005
1st: Lionel Messi
2nd: Wayne Rooney
3rd: Lukas Podolski
2004
1st: Wayne Rooney
2nd: Cristiano Ronaldo
3rd: Fernando Torres
2003
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Anderson and Bojan the odd ones out, otherwise pretty spot on.
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