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It was bound to happen no?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/30/manchester-united-michael-owen-wolfsburg-champions
Strange indeed.
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Groins are Groins, Grundels are Grundels, Ferguson is Ferguson.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/30/manchester-united-michael-owen-wolfsburg-champions
Strange indeed.
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Groins are Groins, Grundels are Grundels, Ferguson is Ferguson.
Ferguson's whistling in the wind, trying to stick to the legend that the signing was a masterstroke even as a whopping great question arises over that very suggestion.
As for Capello, it just matters that he WAS there. 8)
As for Capello, it just matters that he WAS there. 8)
I feel a certain sympathy for Owen's plight, his career blighted by recurring injury looks like it may dash his hopes of resurrection as an international player.
I can't see Capello risking taking a player who regularly breaks down to a major tournament.
As for Ferguson, signing Owen was nothing more than a low risk punt. I doubt he'll lose much sleep if Owen can't stay fit beyond being mildly disappointed his midas touch has left him on this one.
I can't see Capello risking taking a player who regularly breaks down to a major tournament.
As for Ferguson, signing Owen was nothing more than a low risk punt. I doubt he'll lose much sleep if Owen can't stay fit beyond being mildly disappointed his midas touch has left him on this one.
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He's already proved himself a great buy but it's odd that Ferguson wasn't more cautious.
Handling injury prone players is hardly something new to him.
Handling injury prone players is hardly something new to him.
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I feel a certain sympathy for Owen's plight
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I don't.
I feel a certain sympathy for Owen's plight
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I don't.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36198.msg955192#msg955192 date=1254388958]
A 'great' buy?? A bit OTT, Squiggs.
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not exactly a 'great' buy but he was free and has already fashioned 2 extra points for them.
A 'great' buy?? A bit OTT, Squiggs.
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not exactly a 'great' buy but he was free and has already fashioned 2 extra points for them.
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When compared to other 'throw on at the death' players, like Voronin for instance
Slotting home a late winner against your rivals is a pretty good start.
Slotting home a late winner against your rivals is a pretty good start.
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When compared to other 'throw on at the death' players, like Voronin for instance
Slotting home a late winner against your rivals is a pretty good start.
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we should have a voronin v owen thread to see who will score the most league goals this season.
a few seasons ago I bet that baros would score more league goals than owen. easy money.
When compared to other 'throw on at the death' players, like Voronin for instance
Slotting home a late winner against your rivals is a pretty good start.
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we should have a voronin v owen thread to see who will score the most league goals this season.
a few seasons ago I bet that baros would score more league goals than owen. easy money.
Voronin won't score more than Owen
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Voronin won't score more than Owen
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we'll see. it's far more likely owen will score more but all it takes is a long term injury to the midget to give voronin no competititon to the finish line.
Voronin won't score more than Owen
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we'll see. it's far more likely owen will score more but all it takes is a long term injury to the midget to give voronin no competititon to the finish line.
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36198.msg955192#msg955192 date=1254388958]
A 'great' buy?? A bit OTT, Squiggs.
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not exactly a 'great' buy but he free and has already fashioned 2 extra points for them.
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Yes, but wouldn't he probably have won the odd match for any of the top four teams? Surely the factor dissuading the others from getting him, rather than another younger, fitter, striker who would probably also score a few goals and win the odd point, was that Owen was a short term prospect with little else to his game and liable to collapse. The fact that, he, as a striker, will get a few goals for a team that makes plenty of chances isn't a surprise. Nor is the fact he's now injured. I'm more surprised the club doesn't have enough other strikers to keep him on the bench.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36198.msg955192#msg955192 date=1254388958]
A 'great' buy?? A bit OTT, Squiggs.
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not exactly a 'great' buy but he free and has already fashioned 2 extra points for them.
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Yes, but wouldn't he probably have won the odd match for any of the top four teams? Surely the factor dissuading the others from getting him, rather than another younger, fitter, striker who would probably also score a few goals and win the odd point, was that Owen was a short term prospect with little else to his game and liable to collapse. The fact that, he, as a striker, will get a few goals for a team that makes plenty of chances isn't a surprise. Nor is the fact he's now injured. I'm more surprised the club doesn't have enough other strikers to keep him on the bench.
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36198.msg955192#msg955192 date=1254388958]
A 'great' buy?? A bit OTT, Squiggs.
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not exactly a 'great' buy but he free and has already fashioned 2 extra points for them.
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Yes, but wouldn't he probably have won the odd match for any of the top four teams? Surely the factor dissuading the others from getting him, rather than another younger, fitter, striker who would probably also score a few goals and win the odd point, was that Owen was a short term prospect with little else to his game and liable to collapse. The fact that, he, as a striker, will get a few goals for a team that makes plenty of chances isn't a surprise. Nor is the fact he's now injured. I'm more surprised the club doesn't have enough other strikers to keep him on the bench.
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don't get me wrong macca I thought we were wise to pass on him. we'll see if it was wisdom or idoicy come the end of the season.
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36198.msg955192#msg955192 date=1254388958]
A 'great' buy?? A bit OTT, Squiggs.
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not exactly a 'great' buy but he free and has already fashioned 2 extra points for them.
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Yes, but wouldn't he probably have won the odd match for any of the top four teams? Surely the factor dissuading the others from getting him, rather than another younger, fitter, striker who would probably also score a few goals and win the odd point, was that Owen was a short term prospect with little else to his game and liable to collapse. The fact that, he, as a striker, will get a few goals for a team that makes plenty of chances isn't a surprise. Nor is the fact he's now injured. I'm more surprised the club doesn't have enough other strikers to keep him on the bench.
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don't get me wrong macca I thought we were wise to pass on him. we'll see if it was wisdom or idoicy come the end of the season.
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In which case it's tied to the future success of Babel and N'gog...
I think we should have bought him or made more effort to do so, whichever way you look at it, but I do like seeing Babel giving his chance to be Torres' number two.
Previous to this summer, Benitez didn't look interested in the idea.
I think we should have bought him or made more effort to do so, whichever way you look at it, but I do like seeing Babel giving his chance to be Torres' number two.
Previous to this summer, Benitez didn't look interested in the idea.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36198.msg955141#msg955141 date=1254386409]
Is that evidence of his shrewd managerial skills - seeing a notoriously injury-prone player get a groin problem and deciding to play him anyway? Bizarre. And I'm sure Capello wasn't at OT primarily to run the rule over Owen!
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Could it be that Owen insisted that he be given a chance to play in front of Capello?
Is that evidence of his shrewd managerial skills - seeing a notoriously injury-prone player get a groin problem and deciding to play him anyway? Bizarre. And I'm sure Capello wasn't at OT primarily to run the rule over Owen!
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Could it be that Owen insisted that he be given a chance to play in front of Capello?
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36198.msg955341#msg955341 date=1254401010]
That seems highly unlikely.
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True knowing that Fergie will give no quarters to any players but it is really strange in the things he said and stranger still that he played a player who did not train!
Curiouser & curiouser.
That seems highly unlikely.
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True knowing that Fergie will give no quarters to any players but it is really strange in the things he said and stranger still that he played a player who did not train!
Curiouser & curiouser.
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36198.msg955482#msg955482 date=1254411167]
“Michael Owen’s so called ‘injury prone’ status [is] a nonsense!†wrote Green, whose CV boasts of his previous successes with, wait for it, Dean Ashton, Kieron Dyer and Craig Bellamy.[/quote]
Haha.
And on another note, Fergie escapes the type of criticism in the media yet again that Rafa would have no doubt got were he to play someone who was clearly running an injury risk.
“Michael Owen’s so called ‘injury prone’ status [is] a nonsense!†wrote Green, whose CV boasts of his previous successes with, wait for it, Dean Ashton, Kieron Dyer and Craig Bellamy.[/quote]
Haha.
And on another note, Fergie escapes the type of criticism in the media yet again that Rafa would have no doubt got were he to play someone who was clearly running an injury risk.
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36198.msg955482#msg955482 date=1254411167]
“Michael Owen’s so called ‘injury prone’ status [is] a nonsense!†wrote Green, whose CV boasts of his previous successes with, wait for it, Dean Ashton, Kieron Dyer and Craig Bellamy.[/quote]
Haha.
And on another note, Fergie escapes the type of criticism in the media yet again that Rafa would have no doubt got were he to play someone who was clearly running an injury risk.
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I agree, but I think it'd be different if they weren't top of the league.
Also, you will have to accept that Ferguson gets special treatment, because he is perceived by any neutral, and the sporting press, to be a living legend of the game and one of its, if not its best manager.
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=36198.msg955482#msg955482 date=1254411167]
“Michael Owen’s so called ‘injury prone’ status [is] a nonsense!†wrote Green, whose CV boasts of his previous successes with, wait for it, Dean Ashton, Kieron Dyer and Craig Bellamy.[/quote]
Haha.
And on another note, Fergie escapes the type of criticism in the media yet again that Rafa would have no doubt got were he to play someone who was clearly running an injury risk.
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I agree, but I think it'd be different if they weren't top of the league.
Also, you will have to accept that Ferguson gets special treatment, because he is perceived by any neutral, and the sporting press, to be a living legend of the game and one of its, if not its best manager.
Understand, yes. Accept, no. Too many have acquiesced in that for too long.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=36198.msg955614#msg955614 date=1254423847]
Understand, yes. Accept, no. Too many have acquiesced in that for too long.
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Look, I hate Ferguson, and on any issue concerning referees etc, he shouldn't get a better treatment, but in the press, I fully accept he gets different treatment from Rafa, because he is different.
His position is completely unassailable, he has enjoyed rediculous success, as such he is going to receive less criticism, because any criticism of him is less gripping. That's simply how the press works.
Understand, yes. Accept, no. Too many have acquiesced in that for too long.
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Look, I hate Ferguson, and on any issue concerning referees etc, he shouldn't get a better treatment, but in the press, I fully accept he gets different treatment from Rafa, because he is different.
His position is completely unassailable, he has enjoyed rediculous success, as such he is going to receive less criticism, because any criticism of him is less gripping. That's simply how the press works.
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