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Dreambeliever

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Early days but its great to see goals coming from everywhere.

Perhaps the days of us relying on a super star to score 20 + goals are gone.

7 games in and we have had 10 different scorers bagging us 19 goals.

Coutinho 3
Firmino 3
Sturridge 2
Lallana 2
Origi 2
Mane 2
Henderson 1
Klavan 1
Milner 1
Lovren 1


Add Can, Ings, Matip and maybe more and we should see a wide spread of goals this season
 
Goals from set plays so far:

Scored 5
Corner 2 (Klavan and own goal)
Direct free-kick 1 (Coutinho)
Indirect free-kick 1 (Lovren)
Penalty 1 (Milner, won by Firmino)

Conceded 1
Indirect free-kick 1 (Chambers)
 
Yes, and the fact we have people running at defences from everywhere means that if the system is working, then we should see exactly this spread of goalscorers. It is early days, but hopefully this will make us very difficult to stop.
 
We need a reliable, top quality striker that will score at least 15-20 Premiership goals.

The team that wins the league almost always has a striker in that team who scores 20 goals plus. Often there's two players who get around that amount.

I'm not saying that the top scorer plays for the Champions. Often that isn't the case. But the Champions have at least one player who scores 20 or more.

Leicester: Vardy (24)
Chelsea: Costa (20)
City: Toure (20), Aguero (17)
United: RVP (26)
City: Aguero (23)
United: Berbatov (20)
Chelsea: Drogba (29)
 
manwithnoname said:
We need a reliable, top quality striker that will score at least 15-20 Premiership goals.

The team that wins the league almost always has a striker in that team who scores 20 goals plus. Often there's two players who get around that amount.

I'm not saying that the top scorer plays for the Champions. Often that isn't the case. But the Champions have at least one player who scores 20 or more.

Leicester: Vardy (24)
Chelsea: Costa (20)
City: Toure (20), Aguero (17)
United: RVP (26)
City: Aguero (23)
United: Berbatov (20)
Chelsea: Drogba (29)
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There are exceptions to this rule, however. Chelsea won the league in Mourinho's first season with Lampard as their top scorer with 13 league goals (and Gudjonssen with 12). The following season they won the league again with Lampard as top scorer with 16 and Drogba with 12. Meanwhile Arsenal finished a distant 4th despite Thierry Henry's 27 goals. So while it doesn't happen too often, it's possible to win with league with multiple double-digit scorers instead of one prolific striker.
 
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manwithnoname said:
We need a reliable, top quality striker that will score at least 15-20 Premiership goals.

The team that wins the league almost always has a striker in that team who scores 20 goals plus. Often there's two players who get around that amount.

I'm not saying that the top scorer plays for the Champions. Often that isn't the case. But the Champions have at least one player who scores 20 or more.

Leicester: Vardy (24)
Chelsea: Costa (20)
City: Toure (20), Aguero (17)
United: RVP (26)
City: Aguero (23)
United: Berbatov (20)
Chelsea: Drogba (29)
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I think this is the case if you're playing someone at front that is the focus of your attacks, where your key attacking strategy is getting the ball to the same person or people time and again. Our attack seems to be much more multifaceted and I think we may have 5 or so players in the 10-15 range and no-one with more. And I think that would do absolutely fine.
 
So lets say we had...

Coutinho 11
Firmino 15
Sturridge 13
Lallana 7
Origi 11
Mane 10

I don't think those numbers are unreasonable



If you add another 15 -20 goals from the rest chipping in, that's in the 80-90 range, which would be a formidable total.
 
We also had the two top scorers in the league in 13/14 which gave us 52 goals in total, yet we still finished 2nd.

I think we will score enough goals and don't need another 20 goal striker. There is no team in the league that has scored more goals then us in calendar year 2016.

The focus should be on the defence. Every title winning side has one of the better defensive records.
If we can get us down to under or about 40 goals conceded this season we'll be in the top 4.
 
doctor_mac said:
So lets say we had...

Coutinho 11
Firmino 15
Sturridge 13
Lallana 7
Origi 11
Mane 10

I don't think those numbers are unreasonable



If you add another 15 -20 goals from the rest chipping in, that's in the 80-90 range, which would be a formidable total.
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15 - 20 seems like an awful lot for the rest to chip in. Brendan's right...we need 20+ from our main man and double figures from another four or five.
 
doctor_mac said:
The 'others' already have 4 goals in 5 games. Surely another 11 in 33 isn't too much to expect?

My rudimentary maths says you're wrong and Brendan's wrong.
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Based on your rudimentary maths I would be. And at the top end of your own scale it's actually another 16 from 33. So we'll see. I hope you're right.
 
leftpeg said:
15 - 20 seems like an awful lot for the rest to chip in. Brendan's right...we need 20+ from our main man and double figures from another four or five.
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Do we? I'm not so sure. We scored 63 goals last season with these goalscorers:

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Leicester won the league with 68 scored goals, Arsenal had 65 and Spurs 69.

Score about 70 goals and concede 40 goals and you'd be in the top 4.

It was the same in 14/15 aswell.
 
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doctor_mac said:
The 'others' already have 4 goals in 5 games. Surely another 11 in 33 isn't too much to expect?

My rudimentary maths says you're wrong and Brendan's wrong.
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You haven't counted Wijnaldum, who's been a consistent double digit scorer throughout his career.


Our attack looks quite threatening this year - scoring goals is not something I'm worried about.

It's the defence and the lack of control in the middle of the park that are the areas of concern.
 
We will score goals. The movement these days opens a lot of possibilities . Its also a question on how the other contenders fare. City has a few toppscorers on their book. Otherwise it aint too many around. Can Costa keep it up?
 
rurikbird said:
There are exceptions to this rule, however. Chelsea won the league in Mourinho's first season with Lampard as their top scorer with 13 league goals (and Gudjonssen with 12). The following season they won the league again with Lampard as top scorer with 16 and Drogba with 12. Meanwhile Arsenal finished a distant 4th despite Thierry Henry's 27 goals. So while it doesn't happen too often, it's possible to win with league with multiple double-digit scorers instead of one prolific striker.
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Also with United in the 06-07 and 08-09 seasons. Top scorers were Ronaldo/Rooney with 17/14, and 18/12 respectively.
 
If only every match and every season panned out according to the stats and recent history. It would save all that running about. And we'd finish the season trophy-less.
 
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