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Afternoon, bruvvers. Wivvout risking any possible overlap or contravention of the minutes placed under the consideration of the contravention of minutes sub-committee last Tuesday, it behoves me to report the following provisional memorandum on behalf of the glorious brotherhood of bruvvers:


George Gillett visiting Anfield
Fri 25 Sep 2009



Spirit Of Shankly has been informed, via media reports and other sources, that George Gillett intends to be at Anfield tomorrow for the game against Hull, to entertain visitors. He plans to talk to them about branded LFC academies across the Middle East, and Nascar tracks being opened up over there. So whilst fans are still left wondering what exactly is going on behind the scenes, Gillett focuses on his main interests - leveraging the brand and making as much money for himself as possible.


As stated at our EGM, Tom Hicks and George Gillett are not welcome in Liverpool. We urge all members, to make it known to Gillett on his visit tomorrow, that he isn't wanted. Make it known at the airport, at the hotel and at the ground, that we don't want Gillett or Hicks anywhere near our club. If you have any information on where George Gillett will be staying during his visit please email directaction@spiritofshankly.com.

Tom & George - Not Welcome Here!

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Surely just a well worded courteous Email should inform George of the Shankly lads' feelings and their message. Instead of all this hostility and distraction from the match tomorrow.
 
Personally i hope that the members of the SOS attending the game do make themselves heard. Many LFC fans might not agree with who's running this group or their methods, but it's clear that we have shite owners who are fucking over our club.
 
Leeds fans probably moaned less than Liverpool fans about the owners.

The way some people go on you'd think we were in League 2 already.
 
It's outrageous that these clowns use the great man's name in the title of their organisation.

The protests against the yank shite thus far have been pathetic. Marching from a pub and that shit "we're in the wrong hands" song. Terrible.
 
Gillett is a cunt and the yanks should sell up

I hope he is pestered by SOS non stop.

the worst thing is it's the fans that pay the private plane and his hotel bill which he charges to the club
 


For years everyone has bleated on about how we have fallen short in the marketing and commercial side, now when we are showing some signs of actually doing quite well at that, some fucking shop stewards decide we should make Gillett look like a cunt in front of potential business partners.

That's a fucking great plan comrade; if you want to blow your fucking big toe off.
Brainless cunts, as is anyone else that thinks this is a good idea

regards
 
[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=36048.msg950522#msg950522 date=1253883273]
It's outrageous that these clowns use the great man's name in the title of their organisation.

The protests against the yank shite thus far have been pathetic. Marching from a pub and that shit "we're in the wrong hands" song. Terrible.
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I think the name is comical and that they are clowns but their hearts are in the right place, its a shame they allowed themselves to dissapear into a cloud of pretentious fucking nonsense and socialist bollox...

I say its a shame because maybe with a less ridiculous pressure group we could all get together and get fucking rid of our cancerous owners.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=36048.msg950540#msg950540 date=1253884512]


For years everyone has bleated on about how we have fallen short in the marketing and commercial side, now when we are showing some signs of actually doing quite well at that, some fucking shop stewards decide we should make Gillett look like a cunt in front of potential business partners.

That's a fucking great plan comrade; if you want to blow your fucking big toe off.
Brainless cunts, as is anyone else that thinks this is a good idea

regards
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Thats as may be Vlad but to what end?? So you think we are being well run now and you don't want the owners disturbed or embarrassed in any way?? Really??

They have fucked us over Vlad, the fact that they suggest we may get more income from merchandising is all fine and dandy, they said they weren't going to lumber us with debts didn't they..... they said we'd have a spade in the ground and would sign snoogy doogy if required.

They are fucking liars Vlad, its as simple as that.

I don't care much for faux socialist bullshit or silly fucking supporters unions but one thing i do agree on is that that prick Gillette should be made to fucking suffer for his greedy lowlife bullshit.
 
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=36048.msg950547#msg950547 date=1253885009]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=36048.msg950540#msg950540 date=1253884512]


For years everyone has bleated on about how we have fallen short in the marketing and commercial side, now when we are showing some signs of actually doing quite well at that, some fucking shop stewards decide we should make Gillett look like a cunt in front of potential business partners.

That's a fucking great plan comrade; if you want to blow your fucking big toe off.
Brainless cunts, as is anyone else that thinks this is a good idea

regards
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Thats as may be Vlad but to what end?? So you think we are being well run now and you don't want the owners disturbed or embarrassed in any way?? Really??

They have fucked us over Vlad, the fact that they suggest we may get more income from merchandising is all fine and dandy, they said they weren't going to lumber us with debts didn't they..... they said we'd have a spade in the ground and would sign snoogy doogy if required.

They are fucking liars Vlad, its as simple as that.

I don't care much for faux socialist bullshit or silly fucking supporters unions but one thing i do agree on is that that prick Gillette should be made to fucking suffer for his greedy lowlife bullshit.
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I respect your thinking Molby and agree with aspects of it, however cutting off our nose to spite our face is not a rationale idea, and is typical of faux socialist bullshit (I like the term).

Had they said a prostest against the owners that would be one thing, but the insinuation here is that it has a wider issue , to disrupt what could be possibly a fantastic marketing idea.

It's one thing to throw shit at the owners, but unless people are a little more cerebral, not all of it is going to hit the target and some of it is going to hit Liverpool Football Club

regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=36048.msg950540#msg950540 date=1253884512]


For years everyone has bleated on about how we have fallen short in the marketing and commercial side, now when we are showing some signs of actually doing quite well at that, some fucking shop stewards decide we should make Gillett look like a cunt in front of potential business partners.

That's a fucking great plan comrade; if you want to blow your fucking big toe off.
Brainless cunts, as is anyone else that thinks this is a good idea

regards
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I quite agree Vladders. In strict dialectical materialist terms, SOS has ended up being controlled by a bunch of pompous twits.
 
There is also the danger of what one might call 'Tom Paine Syndrome'. An utterly uncompromising militant is quite appealing if you're looking to demolish an existing regime, but after it happens you don't want the utterly uncompromising militant around. While prospective buyers might rather like, tactically, the hassle that SOS are causing Gillett and Hicks, they'll also be reflecting rather soberly on what exactly they'll do with such a mob if they take the club over. Watching SOS drive away hugely lucrative sponsors and commercial partners is not, in the long term, that attractive.
 
Even if you take into account our improved commercial deals, we're still worse off when you think of the huge interest payments we're making. Thats not to mention the countless lies they've told and we're still no further forward with regards to the new stadium.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36048.msg950592#msg950592 date=1253887832]
Even if you take into account our improved commercial deals, we're still worse off when you think of the huge interest payments we're making. Thats not to mention the countless lies they've told and we're still no further forward with regards to the new stadium.
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Well, unless they give out a loud shriek and run away tomorrow or early next week, I'm not sure what sabotaging a potential increase in the club's commercial reach is going to achieve positively. Is the idea to make us stagnate?
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36048.msg950590#msg950590 date=1253887793]
There is also the danger of what one might call 'Tom Paine Syndrome'. An utterly uncompromising militant is quite appealing if you're looking to demolish an existing regime, but after it happens you don't want the utterly uncompromising militant around. While prospective buyers might rather like, tactically, the hassle that SOS are causing Gillett and Hicks, they'll also be reflecting rather soberly on what exactly they'll do with such a mob if they take the club over. Watching SOS drive away hugely lucrative sponsors and commercial partners is not, in the long term, that attractive.
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That, is a very good point.
Rafa4, as regards the stadium issue that seems to be clouding peoples judgment. They really do want to build one you know, as it will increase profitability, that is why they ripped up the original plans as it did not think big enough. Secondly, it's a fucking good thing there was some procrastination , if we had started the project any time prior to the start of the recession we really would be in the shit, I mean really

regards
 
It seems to me the only way the Americans will be leaving is when they get a decent offer for us, and to do that we need to remain a good profitable well supported successful club.
Trying to get them to look stupid and lose money may, in the long term succeed, however by that time no one will want to buy us and it is going to be a fire sale and we will be in real trouble, but shut of the Yanks.
Still I don't think the same fifty people I saw marching behind a banner at the Burnley game ( I assume that was SOS) are going to have much affect in the short term anyways


regards
 
I take all the anti militant sentiment on board and i also do not particularly want some of the idiots at SOS to represent me either, and i also agree that it could be financially damaging to the club if protest is made but I for one think its a purgative we need to undergo....

The bottom line is that for me them succeeding financially is neither here nor there in importance for LFC its not about LFC with them, its about them themselves.

It would sicken me to think that Gillette is allowed to prosper from our club having done absolutely nothing but leech in the way he has. I am truly appalled by him and then and if i have to suffer a bunch of idiots of excessive poetic liscence in order for Gillette personally to realise what i sincerely think of him then so be it. Whoever wrote about us paying for his private jet on the way over got it bang on by the way.... we are dying under the weight of those two and we are paying their expenses while they do it.

They need getting rid off.

It is fucking time we all woke up and actually did something about it IMHO, Son of shankly son of fucking sam for all i care i do not want that cunt thinking he is welcome.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36048.msg950602#msg950602 date=1253888275]
It didn't seem to have any impact on our new record breaking shirt sponsorship deal.
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As I have just posted, it's not really about the threat, that is very limited as thankfully SOS has a bark worse than it's bite.
We are talking about principal of the idea

regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=36048.msg950598#msg950598 date=1253888202]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36048.msg950590#msg950590 date=1253887793]
There is also the danger of what one might call 'Tom Paine Syndrome'. An utterly uncompromising militant is quite appealing if you're looking to demolish an existing regime, but after it happens you don't want the utterly uncompromising militant around. While prospective buyers might rather like, tactically, the hassle that SOS are causing Gillett and Hicks, they'll also be reflecting rather soberly on what exactly they'll do with such a mob if they take the club over. Watching SOS drive away hugely lucrative sponsors and commercial partners is not, in the long term, that attractive.
[/quote]

That, is a very good point.
Rafa4, as regards the stadium issue that seems to be clouding peoples judgment. They really do want to build one you know, as it will increase profitability, that is why they ripped up the original plans as it did not think big enough. Secondly, it's a fucking good thing there was some procrastination , if we had started the project any time prior to the start of the recession we really would be in the shit, I mean really

regards
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I'm sorry Vlad, i just don't see what they've done to warrent your support of them. They've saddled us with huge debt and continually lied to us. I agree that the new stadium plans have been severely hindered by the global economic situation, but that does not excuse them of everything else.
 
I don't see it as supporting them. Who could? It's a question of what tactics work best to get them out.
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36048.msg950614#msg950614 date=1253888982]
I don't see it as supporting them. Who could? It's a question of what tactics work best to get them out.
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What would you suggest then Macca?
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=36048.msg950607#msg950607 date=1253888472]
It seems to me the only way the Americans will be leaving is when they get a decent offer for us, and to do that we need to remain a good profitable well supported successful club.
Trying to get them to look stupid and lose money may, in the long term succeed, however by that time no one will want to buy us and it is going to be a fire sale and we will be in real trouble, but shut of the Yanks.
Still I don't think the same fifty people I saw marching behind a banner at the Burnley game ( I assume that was SOS) are going to have much affect in the short term anyways


regards
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I don't agree Vlad, they were offered good EASY money by DIC and looked to rape them for more, the truth is that as long as we can continue to tread water as we are doing they will continue to use us as collateral in the share portfolis so they can swan about in private jets playing charlie big spuds and conning yet more people into thinking that they know what they are doing and that they are above board businessmen with talent for sports franchises. They do not give a flying fuck about us Vlad not a flying fuck, they must go. The only possible way that can happen is if they either start losing money personally or we make them so uncomfortable that they sell up....

Looking to borrow 50M .... to pay off a debt.... and repay the 50M as 104M in five years!! fuck me you could find a better loan shark in Newcastle ... They are thieves and liars Vlad, NOTHING good can come from them im sure of it... we are better off going nuclear and getting rid.

Both options are horrible i accept that but both are better than slowly but surely sinking further into the shit while they watch and laugh about it. They will be buyers out there i have no doubt, we need to encourage them and get rid of the cunts we are SUFFERING right now.

Rich owners shouldnt have put the club in a worse postion than before ... those two have done just that.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=36048.msg950540#msg950540 date=1253884512]

For years everyone has bleated on about how we have fallen short in the marketing and commercial side, now when we are showing some signs of actually doing quite well at that, some fucking shop stewards decide we should make Gillett look like a cunt in front of potential business partners.

That's a fucking great plan comrade; if you want to blow your fucking big toe off.
Brainless cunts, as is anyone else that thinks this is a good idea

regards
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[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36048.msg950590#msg950590 date=1253887793]
There is also the danger of what one might call 'Tom Paine Syndrome'. An utterly uncompromising militant is quite appealing if you're looking to demolish an existing regime, but after it happens you don't want the utterly uncompromising militant around. While prospective buyers might rather like, tactically, the hassle that SOS are causing Gillett and Hicks, they'll also be reflecting rather soberly on what exactly they'll do with such a mob if they take the club over. Watching SOS drive away hugely lucrative sponsors and commercial partners is not, in the long term, that attractive.
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Two excellent posts amongst significant hysterical drivel like responses!!
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=36048.msg950616#msg950616 date=1253889058]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=36048.msg950614#msg950614 date=1253888982]
I don't see it as supporting them. Who could? It's a question of what tactics work best to get them out.
[/quote]

What would you suggest then Macca?
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Well, that's slightly unfair, in the sense that if any one of us had devised a surefire strategy we'd be using it by now. Looking to articulate grievances, publicise mismanagement and attract possible buyers are all key concerns. The risks we run involve how we best approach it without damaging the club, any more than is already happening, in the long term. I just don't see that this crude student union-ish approach works. The club will still need to do what the current regime is doing, commercially, after Hicks and Gillett are gone, but I can't see this latest clumsy attempt at an incident will help that happen.
 
That's exactly right.

As I see it,there's only ONE sure-fire way we'll see the end of the Yanks.

For the club to implode.

No one here wants that.
 
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