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French football race row

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The National Director of French Football has been suspended after saying there should be a silent/unspoken quota to limit the North African and Arab dual Nationality French kids playing at the Youth Academy.

Seems it was in a meeting with Laurent Blanc and a few other high up in the French Football world.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/01/france-football-race-row

The national technical director of the French Football Federation, François Blaquart, has been suspended by the French government as the fallout over an alleged plan to enforce racial quotas in youth academies continues to spread.

Chantal Jouanno, France's sports minister, said Blaquart was suspended with immediate effect "pending the conclusions of an investigation led by the FFF and the IGJS [General Inspection of Youth and Sports]".

The story, which emerged on Thursday from the French investigative website Mediapart, cited sources within the FFF claiming Blaquart proposed limiting the number of non-white children entering the selection process through training centres and academies.

On Saturday Mediapart published further claims about a meeting at which Blaquart, the France coach, Laurent Blanc, the under-21 coach, Erick Mombaerts, and the under-20 coach, Francis Smerecki, among others, allegedly debated African players with dual nationality who were groomed in France but opted to play for their country of origin.

"We can mark out, in an unspoken way, a sort of quota. But it needs to remain unspoken," Blaquart was quoted as saying by Mediapart. Blaquart told RMC radio's website : "I cannot not acknowledge these remarks. But they have to be put in their context. We acknowledged the fact that there were many players with dual nationality ... we had to control the management of these players who might be leaving us. There is nothing more to it."

Blanc, who played in the 1998 World Cup-winning team that was dubbed "Black-Blanc-Beur" (Blacks, Whites and Arabs) by French media, has often raised the issue of dual nationality players, but rejected the claim he was in favour of quotas based on race. On Friday he said: "No such project has been revealed to me. It's a lie. You cannot have quotas in football. It does not exist. Football is made of diversity. It really bothers me because it's against my values. To me, this is totally false."

Last night Blanc said in a statement: "I do not withdraw what I said yesterday. I admit that some remarks made during a work meeting, taken out of their context, may be misinterpreted and, as far as I am concerned, I apologise if I have hurt some feelings. But I, who am against any form of discrimination, do not stand being accused of racism or xenophobia."

Blanc said there was nothing more to the meeting that took place last November. "One has to be insincere not to see that the debate I took part in had obviously nothing to do with 'reducing the number of blacks and Arabs in French football' as the article's headline said," he added.

The only question was to "discuss the future of French football and deal with the delicate problem of players with dual nationality..."

The FFF president, Fernand Duchaussoy, has also denied any such project existed. "What happened in a meeting, behind a door or in the corridors... I cannot vouch for everyone working at the federation. But I am confident [that there was no wrongdoing]," he said. The FFF's investigation into the claims is expected to be completed within eight days.


I have always thought they did well out of the North Africans playing for the national team, maybe as a backlash to the stupidity of a few of them at the world cup?

The guy is reported to have said they are having trouble because of the number of those players then leaving to play for their 'other' country and not France, though I'm sure most of them only choose to play for the other team after being overlooked by the French team.
 
question, whats the last good player for france who was french french. not algerian french, or senegalese french etc.

i don't know much really about who's from where etc
 
so their best most consistent players aren't french (besides lloris)

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[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45197.msg1326272#msg1326272 date=1304449953]
so their best most consistent players aren't french (besides lloris)

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What players are you refering to?
Ribéry, Lloris, Gourcuff are their best players and are french/french
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=45197.msg1326277#msg1326277 date=1304450888]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45197.msg1326272#msg1326272 date=1304449953]
so their best most consistent players aren't french (besides lloris)

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What players are you refering to?
Ribéry, Lloris, Gourcuff are their best players and are french/french
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ribery and gourcuff aren't consistent
 
[quote author=red_maradona link=topic=45197.msg1326181#msg1326181 date=1304443358]
shocking stuff - if you're good enough, you're good enough.
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true ...

I wanted to put this in the 'original' thread (I think roopy started it about Anelka).

It's sad.
 
This has got pretty messy.

Laurent Blanc may resign/lose his job.

Black players like Vierra have spoken out to say he isn't racist, but it's all rather *ahem* shitty.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=45197.msg1327737#msg1327737 date=1304685214]
This has got pretty messy.

Laurent Blanc may resign/lose his job.

Black players like Vierra have spoken out to say he isn't racist, but it's all rather *ahem* shitty.
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Btw, what did Blanc say?
I thought only director said something.
France would have won fck all without their non white players and that includes 1984, why do the French always bring this up, such a bunch of freaks.
 
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[quote author=themn link=topic=45197.msg1327737#msg1327737 date=1304685214]
This has got pretty messy.

Laurent Blanc may resign/lose his job.

Black players like Vierra have spoken out to say he isn't racist, but it's all rather *ahem* shitty.
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Btw, what did Blanc say?
I thought only director said something.
France would have won fck all without their non white players and that includes 1984, why do the French always bring this up, such a bunch of freaks.
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In conversation about the country's football academies, Blanc was quoted as saying: "You have the impression that they really train the same prototype of players, big, strong, powerful. What is there that is currently big, strong, powerful? The blacks."

He said the system needed to introduce other criteria to develop players "with our culture, our history".

Blanc then drew a contrast with Spanish football. "They say: 'We don't have a problem: we don't have any blacks'."
 
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Hahaha... did he *really* say that?

That sounds made up. Surely.
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[quote author=rubans link=topic=45197.msg1327753#msg1327753 date=1304686042]
[quote author=themn link=topic=45197.msg1327737#msg1327737 date=1304685214]
This has got pretty messy.

Laurent Blanc may resign/lose his job.

Black players like Vierra have spoken out to say he isn't racist, but it's all rather *ahem* shitty.
[/quote]
Btw, what did Blanc say?
I thought only director said something.
France would have won fck all without their non white players and that includes 1984, why do the French always bring this up, such a bunch of freaks.
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In conversation about the country's football academies, Blanc was quoted as saying: "You have the impression that they really train the same prototype of players, big, strong, powerful. What is there that is currently big, strong, powerful? The blacks."

He said the system needed to introduce other criteria to develop players "with our culture, our history".

Blanc then drew a contrast with Spanish football. "They say: 'We don't have a problem: we don't have any blacks'."
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If that is true, that's fcking ridiculous, especially the big black players that he played in the back 4 that won the world cup, how good was Thuram.
 
Doesn't matter how good he was rubans

he was black and therefore not french


or something?

i love the hilarity of it all. I mean BLANC having a go at black frenchies.

Immense
 
from a french perspective it is pretty damning, especially as they place such a high regard on the replublic and everyone being 'french'!
 
Ribery has gone from being touted as one of the top 5 players in the world to obscurity. Im glad as he is a little cunt but seems quite a dramatic fall from grace.
 
"@SkyNewsBreak: French sports minister clears France coach Laurent Blanc of racial discrimination"
 
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