For FUCK sake!
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I was always quite good at taking corners.
Shit at everything else mind.
Shit at everything else mind.
aurelio is back, it's no longer an issue.
A few points
1) Lucas takes poor corners, NEXT
2) Benayoun takes poor corners, NEXT
3) If we don't have a capable corner taker, put Gerrard there. Better to have a 'decent' corner without Stevie's head in the box than a 'shit' corner with Stevie roaming in the box
4) NO MORE short corners - we're terrible at them
5) Hi
1) Lucas takes poor corners, NEXT
2) Benayoun takes poor corners, NEXT
3) If we don't have a capable corner taker, put Gerrard there. Better to have a 'decent' corner without Stevie's head in the box than a 'shit' corner with Stevie roaming in the box
4) NO MORE short corners - we're terrible at them
5) Hi
gerrard should take all the corners from the right and aurelio should take all the corners from the left.
Johnson?
Aquaman may sort it out.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35864.msg944778#msg944778 date=1253150509]
The movement and positioning in the box is more of an issue than the actual corner-taker.
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corners usually don't clear the first defender making movement in the box from our players pretty much irrelavent. now macca knew how to take the perfect corner.
The movement and positioning in the box is more of an issue than the actual corner-taker.
[/quote]
corners usually don't clear the first defender making movement in the box from our players pretty much irrelavent. now macca knew how to take the perfect corner.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944815#msg944815 date=1253168559]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35864.msg944778#msg944778 date=1253150509]
The movement and positioning in the box is more of an issue than the actual corner-taker.
[/quote]
corners usually don't clear the first defender making movement in the box from our players pretty much irrelavent. now macca knew how to take the perfect corner.
[/quote]
That simply isn't true. Last night the corners were joke, but Gerrard for all the criticism does put some great balls in and we struggle to get headers on target. Gerrard also takes corners for England at times and they often look dangerous.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35864.msg944778#msg944778 date=1253150509]
The movement and positioning in the box is more of an issue than the actual corner-taker.
[/quote]
corners usually don't clear the first defender making movement in the box from our players pretty much irrelavent. now macca knew how to take the perfect corner.
[/quote]
That simply isn't true. Last night the corners were joke, but Gerrard for all the criticism does put some great balls in and we struggle to get headers on target. Gerrard also takes corners for England at times and they often look dangerous.
Yossi takes poor corners? I was impressed with all of his efforts last night. Mind you, after watching Gerrard take them for the past few years it doesn't take much to impress.
I'm pretty sure all of Yossi's corners last night found the head of a team mate in the box.
I'm pretty sure all of Yossi's corners last night found the head of a team mate in the box.
[quote author=Mamma Mia link=topic=35864.msg944863#msg944863 date=1253177651]
Yossi takes poor corners? I was impressed with all of his efforts last night. Mind you, after watching Gerrard take them for the past few years it doesn't take much to impress.
I'm pretty sure all of Yossi's corners last night found the head of a team mate in the box.
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Nah, I recall one good corner from Yossi and the rest found the first defender.
Yossi takes poor corners? I was impressed with all of his efforts last night. Mind you, after watching Gerrard take them for the past few years it doesn't take much to impress.
I'm pretty sure all of Yossi's corners last night found the head of a team mate in the box.
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Nah, I recall one good corner from Yossi and the rest found the first defender.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35864.msg944816#msg944816 date=1253168820]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944815#msg944815 date=1253168559]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35864.msg944778#msg944778 date=1253150509]
The movement and positioning in the box is more of an issue than the actual corner-taker.
[/quote]
corners usually don't clear the first defender making movement in the box from our players pretty much irrelavent. now macca knew how to take the perfect corner.
[/quote]
That simply isn't true. Last night the corners were joke, but Gerrard for all the criticism does put some great balls in and we struggle to get headers on target. Gerrard also takes corners for England at times and they often look dangerous.
[/quote]
our corners consistantly don't clear the first man, if it were a case of our not getting our head on good corners then I'd blame the people in the box, it's the delivery that is the problem. I love aurelio's corners because he whips them in at pace and they are at a decent height to attack. gerrard isn't a 'bad' corner but this is definately something we can improve upon.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944815#msg944815 date=1253168559]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35864.msg944778#msg944778 date=1253150509]
The movement and positioning in the box is more of an issue than the actual corner-taker.
[/quote]
corners usually don't clear the first defender making movement in the box from our players pretty much irrelavent. now macca knew how to take the perfect corner.
[/quote]
That simply isn't true. Last night the corners were joke, but Gerrard for all the criticism does put some great balls in and we struggle to get headers on target. Gerrard also takes corners for England at times and they often look dangerous.
[/quote]
our corners consistantly don't clear the first man, if it were a case of our not getting our head on good corners then I'd blame the people in the box, it's the delivery that is the problem. I love aurelio's corners because he whips them in at pace and they are at a decent height to attack. gerrard isn't a 'bad' corner but this is definately something we can improve upon.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35864.msg944816#msg944816 date=1253168820]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944815#msg944815 date=1253168559]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35864.msg944778#msg944778 date=1253150509]
The movement and positioning in the box is more of an issue than the actual corner-taker.
[/quote]
corners usually don't clear the first defender making movement in the box from our players pretty much irrelavent. now macca knew how to take the perfect corner.
[/quote]
That simply isn't true. Last night the corners were joke, but Gerrard for all the criticism does put some great balls in and we struggle to get headers on target. Gerrard also takes corners for England at times and they often look dangerous.
[/quote]
Gerrard seems to have a 'hit rate' of about 1:4 and that's nowhere near good enough when teams like Stoke, Villa & Spurs have constantly put our defence under pressure with consistently well taken and dangerous corners that show us what we are missing.
If anyone knows - how many goals did we score from headers following a corner last season ? I wonder what the EPL average is.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944815#msg944815 date=1253168559]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35864.msg944778#msg944778 date=1253150509]
The movement and positioning in the box is more of an issue than the actual corner-taker.
[/quote]
corners usually don't clear the first defender making movement in the box from our players pretty much irrelavent. now macca knew how to take the perfect corner.
[/quote]
That simply isn't true. Last night the corners were joke, but Gerrard for all the criticism does put some great balls in and we struggle to get headers on target. Gerrard also takes corners for England at times and they often look dangerous.
[/quote]
Gerrard seems to have a 'hit rate' of about 1:4 and that's nowhere near good enough when teams like Stoke, Villa & Spurs have constantly put our defence under pressure with consistently well taken and dangerous corners that show us what we are missing.
If anyone knows - how many goals did we score from headers following a corner last season ? I wonder what the EPL average is.
when macca was at the club we had the most headed goals in the league (2001) I wonder is currently we have one of the worst records in the league.
While I can't say I often watch other teams and think, 'Wow, their corners are fantastic!' I agree we seem depressingly inept. Kenny used to go out to collect short corners and then take the initiatve. Maybe Gerrard should do that. But the poor technique is bemusing these days when so many players are regarded as technically gifted. The sight of Mascher and Didi Hamman booting long shots high over the bar is another mystery - when these things happen time and time again surely they can recognise there's a basic technical fault?
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944916#msg944916 date=1253180264]
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
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Yes. You would think that, as do I, but plainly for some reason 1:4 seems to be the norm. Perplexing.
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
[/quote]
Yes. You would think that, as do I, but plainly for some reason 1:4 seems to be the norm. Perplexing.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944916#msg944916 date=1253180264]
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
[/quote]
corners are a definate skill.
hit too hard and it shoots over everyone's head
hit too soft and it fails to clear the first man
hit too close to the byline/goal and the keeper easily gathers
hit too to far from the byline/goal and it is behind our players
macca had it down to an absolute fine art
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
[/quote]
corners are a definate skill.
hit too hard and it shoots over everyone's head
hit too soft and it fails to clear the first man
hit too close to the byline/goal and the keeper easily gathers
hit too to far from the byline/goal and it is behind our players
macca had it down to an absolute fine art
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944951#msg944951 date=1253181334]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944916#msg944916 date=1253180264]
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
[/quote]
corners are a definate skill.
hit too hard and it shoots over everyone's head
hit too soft and it fails to clear the first man
hit too close to the byline/goal and the keeper easily gathers
hit too to far from the byline/goal and it is behind our players
[/quote]
Gosh thanks Neil, I never realised the difficult issues involved.
Fuck me
Anyway as I said for £100k a week they should be able to put a ball on a gnats dick each time every time
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944916#msg944916 date=1253180264]
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
[/quote]
corners are a definate skill.
hit too hard and it shoots over everyone's head
hit too soft and it fails to clear the first man
hit too close to the byline/goal and the keeper easily gathers
hit too to far from the byline/goal and it is behind our players
[/quote]
Gosh thanks Neil, I never realised the difficult issues involved.
Fuck me
Anyway as I said for £100k a week they should be able to put a ball on a gnats dick each time every time
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944956#msg944956 date=1253181515]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944951#msg944951 date=1253181334]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944916#msg944916 date=1253180264]
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
[/quote]
corners are a definate skill.
hit too hard and it shoots over everyone's head
hit too soft and it fails to clear the first man
hit too close to the byline/goal and the keeper easily gathers
hit too to far from the byline/goal and it is behind our players
[/quote]
Gosh thanks Neil, I never realised the difficult issues involved.
Fuck me
Anyway as I said for £100k a week they should be able to put a ball on a gnats dick each time every time
regards
[/quote]
I guess. anyway, aurelio is back and he is a very good corner taker (from the left).
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944951#msg944951 date=1253181334]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944916#msg944916 date=1253180264]
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
[/quote]
corners are a definate skill.
hit too hard and it shoots over everyone's head
hit too soft and it fails to clear the first man
hit too close to the byline/goal and the keeper easily gathers
hit too to far from the byline/goal and it is behind our players
[/quote]
Gosh thanks Neil, I never realised the difficult issues involved.
Fuck me
Anyway as I said for £100k a week they should be able to put a ball on a gnats dick each time every time
regards
[/quote]
I guess. anyway, aurelio is back and he is a very good corner taker (from the left).
One problem is they're a bit fixated on Torres going for near post headers, which look great when they reach him, but 99 times out of a hundred the first defender just heads them away. It adds insult to injury when they do those hand signals, as if they're dipping into a vast treasure trove of well-rehearsed routines. 'Aha - the two arms up with the left hand pointing forward - that means, er, same as last time'.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944963#msg944963 date=1253181758]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944956#msg944956 date=1253181515]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944951#msg944951 date=1253181334]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944916#msg944916 date=1253180264]
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
[/quote]
corners are a definate skill.
hit too hard and it shoots over everyone's head
hit too soft and it fails to clear the first man
hit too close to the byline/goal and the keeper easily gathers
hit too to far from the byline/goal and it is behind our players
[/quote]
Gosh thanks Neil, I never realised the difficult issues involved.
Fuck me
Anyway as I said for £100k a week they should be able to put a ball on a gnats dick each time every time
regards
[/quote]
I guess. anyway, aurelio is back and he is a very good corner taker (from the left).
[/quote]
It's a pity it's not like American football where you could take him on and off when you needed him. He's not that good btw, just better
regards
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944956#msg944956 date=1253181515]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35864.msg944951#msg944951 date=1253181334]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=35864.msg944916#msg944916 date=1253180264]
You would think for the hours they spend training, the skill levels they must have and the money they get paid, they could put a dead ball where they wanted it every time.
regards
[/quote]
corners are a definate skill.
hit too hard and it shoots over everyone's head
hit too soft and it fails to clear the first man
hit too close to the byline/goal and the keeper easily gathers
hit too to far from the byline/goal and it is behind our players
[/quote]
Gosh thanks Neil, I never realised the difficult issues involved.
Fuck me
Anyway as I said for £100k a week they should be able to put a ball on a gnats dick each time every time
regards
[/quote]
I guess. anyway, aurelio is back and he is a very good corner taker (from the left).
[/quote]
It's a pity it's not like American football where you could take him on and off when you needed him. He's not that good btw, just better
regards
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35864.msg944966#msg944966 date=1253181944]
One problem is they're a bit fixated on Torres going for near post headers, which look great when they reach him, but 99 times out of a hundred the first defender just heads them away. It adds insult to injury when they do those hand signals, as if they're dipping into a vast treasure trove of well-rehearsed routines. 'Aha - the two arms up with the left hand pointing forward - that means, er, same as last time'.
[/quote]
Haha, yeah, I think they do it only to try and give an impression that they've got something fiendishly clever worked out. TBF that probably applies to most everybody though.
One problem is they're a bit fixated on Torres going for near post headers, which look great when they reach him, but 99 times out of a hundred the first defender just heads them away. It adds insult to injury when they do those hand signals, as if they're dipping into a vast treasure trove of well-rehearsed routines. 'Aha - the two arms up with the left hand pointing forward - that means, er, same as last time'.
[/quote]
Haha, yeah, I think they do it only to try and give an impression that they've got something fiendishly clever worked out. TBF that probably applies to most everybody though.
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