Every goal we've leaked this season...

[hamstrung_pigeon]

I think this covers every one of them; caveat: I may not have attributed the goals to the scorers and scapegoats appropriately, but I think I'm probably not too far off.

Aug 18 FT West Bromwich Albion 3-0 Liverpool

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM6eFMkzQIw

- Gera wonder goal
- Agger concedes penalty; sent off; Reina saves from Long
- Skrtel concedes penalty; Odemwingie scores
- Lukaku scores unmarked at far post (Johnson fault) from unchallenged cross (Kelly fault)

Aug 26 FT Liverpool 2-2 Manchester City

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS5lR_YuF6w

- Tevez beats Sterling and crosses; Reina comes for cross and gets nothing as ball takes a deflection off Skrtel's head and comes off hard off Kelly's chest; Yaya Toure finishes
- Skrtel mindfart backpass; Tevez steals in and scores

Aug 30 FT Liverpool 1-1 Heart of Midlothian (Europa League)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-hPlI0Rh0

- Reina fumbles long shot from Templeton; ball escapes his grasp and trickles into goal; we are nearly knocked out of Europa League in playoff rounds

Sep 2 FT Liverpool 0-2 Arsenal

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIXYU8-EITU

- Podolski goal from incisive Arsenal counter-attack after Gerrard misplaces pass in Arsenal half
- Shelvey tracks Cazorla then fails to do a proper hand-over, Downing doesn't pick him up; Reina gets down for low shot across him but makes a mess of the save as ball bounces high up from under him into net

Sep 15 FT Sunderland 1-1 Liverpool

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGZoKc55850

- Reina comes off line but fails to cut out low cross into box; Fletcher scores after Skrtel fails to hold off Fletcher

Sep 20 FT Young Boys 3-5 Liverpool (Europa League)
http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/...olo-ojala-zarate-wisdom-coates-shelvey-video/
- Pass slipped behind the defence into the box; Jones rushes out to collect but Enrique intervenes and makes a mess of the clearance sending the ball straight to Nuzzolo to score into an empty net
- Ojala scores a header off a cross from our left; Coates totally misjudges the flight of the ball
- Zarate runs in down the left and chips Jones after receiving a pass from Bobadilla who had shrugged off the attentions of Carra and Suso too easily

Sep 23 FT Liverpool 1-2 Manchester United
http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/...ls-van-persie-penalty-shelvey-red-card-video/
- Team falls asleep at left elbow of penalty box defending Manc one-two; Agger doesn't even attempt to block Rafael's neat shot
- Johnson and Agger clash into each other in centre of pitch; Johnson recovers to concede very soft penalty for foul on Valencia; Van Persie scores

Sep 26 FT West Bromwich Albion 1-2 Liverpool (Capital One Cup)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UCmyQmc0dA
- Jones makes a mess of long free kick into box - comes to collect ball and drops it; Tamas scores

Sep 29 FT Norwich City 2-5 Liverpool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbaObG0unB0
- Reina fails to grasp hard shot straight at him; ball comes off his chest and Morison scores
- Skrtel gets turned too easily by Grant Holt; nice finish

Oct 4 FT Liverpool 2-3 Udinese (Europa League)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89huFusFjJ0
- Di Natale scores neat goal from unchallenged cross from right; Wisdom fails to close down player for cross
- Coates heads in own goal from free kick into box
- Carra and Coates allow Di Natale to juggle the box in the box for ages; Di Natale lays the ball to unchallenged Pasquale who scores a good goal into the far corner

Oct 28 FT Everton 2-2 Liverpool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CqpCiPyda8
- Jones punches out ball from corner that goes outside of box but falls to loosely marked Osman; Osman smashes low and hard into goal
- Unmarked Fellaini crosses in low from the right; Skrtel and Agger both lose track of their men in the box; Naismith nips in to score

Oct 31 FT Liverpool 1-3 Swansea City (Capital One Cup)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXptB_firYU
- Chico Flores scores from corner as Coates gets on wrong side of him to challenge
- Swansea lightning counter-attack; nobody tracks the run of Nathan Dyer who finishes into an empty net
- Slack defending on the right; some loses track of his man who runs with the ball and crosses low into the box; someone fails to track de Guzman's run properly and he gets an easy finish
- Liverpool knocked out

Nov 4 FT Liverpool 1-1 Newcastle United
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx7ckUdQfZI
- Cabaye's run on our right is totally unwatched; cracks in a wonderful goal from right far post area

Nov 8 FT Anzhi Makhachkala 1-0 Liverpool (Europa League)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5OROcrR1hA
- Traore turns Coates easily with a flick and scores with a lob over the onrushing Jones

Nov 11 FT Chelsea 1-1 Liverpool
http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/...2012-terry-suarez-goals-video-november-video/
- Terry scores a header from a Mata corner; Agger makes a mess of tracking his movement in the box

Nov 22 FT Liverpool 2-2 Young Boys (Europa League)
http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/...joe-cole-bobadilla-zverotic-goals-video-2012/
- Bobadilla thumps in a cracker from left inside the box; quality finish across Reina from a tigher angle
- Zverotic plays a one-two and is left unmarked in central midfield; proceeds to crash in a fabulous goal high into the corner

Nov 28 FT Tottenham Hotspur 2-1 Liverpool
http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/...hts-2012-bale-freekick-og-lennon-goals-video/
- Bale puts in a low cross from the left after a strong run; Downing falls asleep at far post and Lennon slips in to score
- Bale scores from a freekick straight down the centre; Reina for some odd reason moves to the side of the goal that's covered by the ball; would've caught the ball if he'd stayed in the centre

Dec 9 FT West Ham United 2-3 Liverpool
http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2012/...ins-gerrard-og-johnson-cole-highlights-video/
- Unchallenged cross from the right; ball is cleared to edge of box and Allen concedes soft penalty (handball) which Noble converts
- Another unchallenged cross from the right; Gerrard scores own goal

Dec 15 FT Liverpool 1-3 Aston Villa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IkYI2lmS1U
- Benteke crashes in goal from distance off Reina's near post
- Weimann's run into box is totally unchecked by 2 Red players; meets Benteke's backheel into the box and scores
- Benteke picks up the ball in midfield and surges into our box; Skrtel is easily sold the wrong way and Allen can't take the ball off him as he scores

Dec 26 FT Stoke City 3-1 Liverpool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE76bQZOXqQ
- Kenwyn Jones beats Agger in aerial challenge for long ball from deep; Skrtel slips and falls as Jonathan Walters latches on to the ball and scores
- Kenwyn Jones scores directly from corner after losing Skrtel
- Kenwyn Jones knocks down a throw in and Walters finishes off splendidly

Jan 6 FT Mansfield Town 1-2 Liverpool (FA Cup)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcxByAULX0g
- Matthew Green is left unmarked in the box (Allen should've picked him up?) and scores from a reverse pass from the left bye-line

Jan 13 FT Manchester United 2-1 Liverpool
http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2013/...s-2-1-van-persie-vidic-sturridge-goals-video/
- Wisdom doesn't attempt to stop a cross from the right and Agger fails to stay close to Van Persie; RVP scores
- Evra heads in a free kick after being left unmarked at the far post; Vidic might've gotten a touch off his header

Jan 27 FT Oldham Athletic 3-2 Liverpool (FA Cup)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbBOey60Eg4
- Matt Smith is left totally unmarked in the box; Wisdom allows the cross from the right and Smith leaps over Coates to head in
- Skrtel fails to cut out a cross from the left; Jones makes a mess of a simple catch; ball runs loose and ends up at the far post where Smith is left unmarked by Wisdom who has gone to defend on the goal line of the vacated goal; Smith scores
- Deep cross from the right that takes ages to come down is neatly headed in by Wabara at the far post despite two Liverpool players sandwiching him
- Liverpool knocked out

Jan 30 FT Arsenal 2-2 Liverpool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py3Qrr8JQ6A
- Giroud scores a free header from a free kick after Agger fails to pick him up in the box; another Gunner(who?) would've scored anyway had Giroud failed to connect as Carra had lost track of him as well
- Walcott thrashes in a good goal across Reina after neat passing between Cazorla and Giroud; Reina doesn't even move

Feb 3 FT Manchester City 2-2 Liverpool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG12F1N02tI
- Johnson is turned easily by Silva; slips a pass to Milner whom Agger has played onside; Carra can't catch Milner and Agger fails to cut out the cross as Dzeko scores
- Ball is slipped to Aguero who nips in behind the backline heading away from the goal; Skrtel gives up chasing the ball and goes to defend the angle to goal as he sees Reina charging out to close Aguero; Aguero whips in a delightful goal from a tight angle

Feb 11 Liverpool 0-2 West Brom
http://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-HIGHLI...-2012/tabid/317/articleID/286454/Default.aspx
- Corner comes in, Carra jumps but ball goes over him, Agger loses his man, McAuley scores
- With us committed forward to get an equalizer, West Brom trigger a quick counter; ball goes to Lukaku who easily (and almost in slow-mo) glides past Agger and scores

Feb 14 Zenit 2-0 Liverpool (Europa League)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6wVPIesTgY
- Henderson can't bring the ball under control fast enough a bit of the way inside our half; the ball is stolen by a Zenit player and fed to Hulk who advances towards down the centre just in front of the box. Gerrard can't catch him and Skrtel backs off; Hulk thumps in a scorcher into the top corner.
- Ball is worked down our left, an innocuous cross comes in which Skrtel fails to clear; Johnson doesn't track Semak sneaking in from behind at the far post; Semak scores

Feb 21 Liverpool 3-1 Zenit (Europa League)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh5Pv2Vz-jI
- Long ball out from Zenit's back; Carra first to get there but messes up with a very feeble back pass under pressure from Hulk; Hulk latches onto the ball and scores in a 1-1 vs Reina.

 

[Farkmaster]

Thanks for your work on this, it was hideously depressing informative.

 

[Dreambeliever]

Alot of work in this. What's it for?

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

Just for referencing and keeping track of the types of goals we leak, and the culprits (if any). I find it easier to have something to look at and read from than to recall from my memory.

For example, we know Skrtel and Agger have been poor in tracking their man and hence leaking goals this season - going back to look at the number of occasions this has happened shows they've been as bad as each other; and despite our poor defending at corners that regularly gives us heart attacks, we've actually only let in 3 goals directly from them surprisingly; the other that was scored indirectly was off a poor Jones punch out.

Also, I think someone posted a stat line from Opta Joe about Reina's mistakes directly leading to 8 goals, I wasn't sure whether that was an exaggerated figure, and wanted to relook at which occasions those were; turns out the stat line looks correct!

Stuff like that.

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

Also another observation is that, while our central midfield could use some improvement defensively, it seems to have improved a fair bit lately. Of course, a lot of the goals may start with the opponents having too easy a job moving the ball around, but no goals directly attributable to an unmarked man running into the box or opponents passing through our centre have been registered since the shocking defeat in mid-December at home to Villa.

The goals we've conceded since the Villa game have mainly been due to one or a combination of these factors:
1. Succumbing to pressure from a big strong target man
2. Not attempting to cut out crosses + slack marking at the far post
3. Poor marking/tracking of forwards in the box
4. Quality finishing
5. Goalkeeping errors

Is the drop in goals down the middle due to opponents targeting our other more glaring weaknesses or attributable to Lucas' quiet return (despite him not being at his best form yet) as well as Gerrard's and Henderson's improved form? Or is it just our luck that opponents haven't been shooting straight? We do not have a large sample of evidence of course, so this could well be just too simplistic an analysis to say that our defending in the centre has improved.

 

[reuque]

Just for referencing and keeping track of the types of goals we leak, and the culprits (if any). I find it easier to have something to look at and read from than to recall from my memory.

For example, we know Skrtel and Agger have been poor in tracking their man and hence leaking goals this season - going back to look at the number of occasions this has happened shows they've been as bad as each other; and despite our poor defending at corners that regularly gives us heart attacks, we've actually only let in 3 goals directly from them surprisingly; the other that was scored indirectly was off a poor Jones punch out.

Also, I think someone posted a stat line from Opta Joe about Reina's mistakes directly leading to 8 goals, I wasn't sure whether that was an exaggerated figure, and wanted to relook at which occasions those were; turns out the stat line looks correct!

Stuff like that.

I read something addressing that earlier yesterday here:

http://basstunedtored.com/2013/02/05/the-truth-about-pepe-reinas-errors/

The Truth About Pepe Reina’s Errors

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Following Pepe Reina’s part in Sergio Aguero’s equaliser for Manchester City in their 2-2 draw with Liverpool on Sunday, this tweet was in heavy circulation:

Reina‘s mistakes cost Liverpool 14 points this season. Without those faults, Liverpool would be in the 3rd place. (via Opta Stats)​

Fourteen points sounds like a hell of a lot, so I thought I’d investigate. As with many ‘facts’ floating around on Twitter, it proved to be hugely far from the truth.

​

Using the data from EPLIndex, I was able to establish that errors by Reina have, at most, cost Liverpool a mere three points this season, and that is based on the assumption that the result would have remained as it was if the error had not happened, which is obviously impossible to prove.
For the record, his errors that have lead to goals have occurred in the following matches:
Arsenal at home (the Reds would’ve still lost 1-0)
Norwich City away (which Liverpool won anyway)
Tottenham Hotspur away (which, in theory would have been a 1-1 draw without the mistake, so one point lost)
Manchester City away (Two points lost on the assumption that the Reds would’ve have won 2-1 otherwise; they may not have).
As the error data is available back to 2008/09, I checked all of those seasons too, and found that at most, Pepe Reina has cost Liverpool six points in four-and-a-half seasons; barely more than a point a year, in other words.
This isn’t to say that I think Reina should be entirely exempt from criticism right now, as his form has been on the wane for some time, but he is definitely not as costly error-wise as the Twitterati may have you believe.

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

In terms of points in the league; I'll just take it the author's probably right (didn't go run through the sums); the number of mistakes he's made though has been too high; it reminds me of Dudek in his final couple of seasons here. Even then, I don't know if Dudek made as many bad errors - he'd make them in the high profile games, but I don't remember if he was this bad.

 

[Hansern]

Goals conceded by errors is interesting.
We're 2nd in that league with 31%.
Arsenal are top

 

[Mors]

We've not been done by many 'worldys' this season, the vast majority we've only ourselves to blame. Defence and keeper have been a mess this season.

 

[Insignificance]

Nice job. Must have taken a while.

I think we need to have a couple of things in mind when we try to see the performances in perspective.

Defensively we have been weak as a unit this season. The ball possession has been a main focus, and we have not had midfielders picking up dep runs from opposition, and they have also been piss poor in the pressing and tackling when we chase the ball. I am not sure if this is on Rodgers agenda at all, but so far the midfield has been chopped and changed week by week, and that has probably happened due to poor and not strong performances. Rodgers have obviously also looked to get Allen to shine, something he has failed in. Seem like he have given that tought a rest for a while, which will only do the team and Allen good, as the midfield look more stable at the moment.

Attackingwise we have been weak as a unit for most of the season. Suarez has set us on fire on some occasions, and has been outstanding. Some games we have run riot and scored plenty as a team as well, and that is important. We need to have more people involved in the attacking responsibilities, and we have not been good at all when it comes to manning up the opposition box. The possesion game has been more sideways than setting up triangles to break through press levels. There are many reasons for this, and unexperienced and immature squad can be used as an excuse. However, the youngsters have not been worse than the more experienced ones.

All in all we have struggled, and if (it is a big if) this constant struggle to take the next step as a team start to affect peoples head it is big danger. Experienced pro's need to feel they are part of a team moving in certain direction. We have been unstable since that 86 points handing us the 2nd, and we have not been able to capitalize on that progress shown in the period 2005-2009. If solid defenders like Agger and Skrtel (they are the main culprits singled out here) drop their focus by 5-10% they are not longer top performers. We will all say that they should be motivated by their fat paycheques and get their arses together. But they are humans and footballers and they have plenty of money already, and the ability to take out the last 5% when we are far away from any footballing reward (CL or trophies or whatever) is extreme hard. if the motivation of these people have dropped5% it is understandable, and in my eyes changing them will make the team even worse. We must rather fill the squad with people able to give the team the ability to compete for titles or at least CL and this way lift the already experienced peoples head the last 5%.

 

[SummerOnions]

Good work.

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

Updated for the goals conceded in the WBA and Zenit games; for completeness sake.

 

[DHSC]

Here's hoping you dont have to update this thread again this season! 😉

 

[hamstrung_pigeon]

Here's hoping you dont have to update this thread again this season! 😉

I hope next season I'll be doing a thread of every goal we've scored in the season, and give up half way because I'm overworked.

 

[Ryan]

Alot of work in this. What's it for?

To (hopefully) stop people making lazy assumptions, pull out selective stats, and to focus on the facts.

And to point out that Daniel Agger is fucking hideously overrated.