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England match to be internet only

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England match to be internet only
England's World Cup qualifier in Ukraine on Saturday will be shown exclusively live to subscribers on the internet who will pay at least £4.99.

All previously broadcast England matches have been available on TV.

Kentaro - an international agency appointed by the Ukrainian Football Federation - originally sold the UK rights for the game to Setanta.

But after the pay-TV firm collapsed, digital sport specialist Perform was appointed to stream the match online.

The match will be shown on the website

and viewers will be able to subscribe to it using PayPal, the electronic payment service.
England have already qualified for the 2010 World Cup, winning all eight of their group matches.



It is understood none of the traditional broadcasters were willing to pay the asking price to screen the game, which kicks off at 1715 BST.

But the news has angered supporters who want to watch the action on television.

Peter Silverstone, managing director of Kentaro, told BBC Sport: "You will watch as you would any other streaming on the internet, like YouTube or the BBC iPlayer.

"There will be a pop-up player that will show the match in a very good quality stream."

Former England boss Sven-Goran Eriksson is part of the studio team for the match, while Kentaro has promised "a top commentary team".


The cost of watching the game was being advertised on Monday in the Daily Express as £4.99 if viewers signed up before midnight on Wednesday.

Charges rise to £9.99 for those who subscribe on Thursday and Friday, and £11.99 on Saturday.

Similar prices were advertised on the website of the Daily Telegraph, which promised a "high-quality stream available on Mac and PC".

Silverstone insisted the project was "commercially viable".

"We have a huge marketing effort behind us with the various newspaper groups that will promote the match on their websites," he said.

"Commercially this will work and genuinely offers an exciting opportunity for us. We wouldn't embark on this project if we didn't feel it had strategic long-term value, this isn't a one-off shot."

Silverstone said Kentaro would take a maximum of one million subscribers for the match - which he said equates to about 2.5m viewers - because this would be the "safe number to stop at to ensure the optimal broadcast".

The Odeon cinema chain will show the game live at 11 venues around the country, including at their flagship cinema at Leicester Square, but the match will not be available in pubs.

Football Association spokesman Adrian Bevington said his organisation "would obviously like to see the game broadcast to as many people as possible" but insisted the matter was out of the FA's hands.

"These are the rights of the Ukrainian FA and the agents they've appointed to sell them," he told BBC Sport.

"A traditional TV platform would be ideal to broadcast the game but it's not the case. It's not in our control."

In the future it'll probably be the reality. I think it's a good way to gauge how many people are interested
Rio Ferdinand England defender
ITV has the rights to home England games and, under the terms of their contract, has taken over Setanta's broadcast rights for away friendlies.

However, that aspect of the deal does not cover away qualifying games, and neither the BBC, ITV, Sky nor Channel Five made a successful bid for the match.

Perform streamed Manchester City and Spurs matches in the Uefa Cup last year when a TV deal could not be agreed, charging about £4 per game.

Bevington insisted: "We're obviously confident in the company that has got the rights - they're a very professional company".

However, travelling England fan Mark Perryman said the fact the match was available only on the internet was "disastrous and an outrage".

"A World Cup qualifier should be available for everybody on free-to-air TV," he told BBC Sport.

"It seems to me there's a very simple solution - Fifa and Uefa should insist as a condition of entry that all nations sell their games to terrestrial stations, whether its the home or away market."

England defender Rio Ferdinand said he thought the broadcasting of the match marked "a good step forward".

"I read that online advertising has taken over from TV, so that tells you something about where it's going in terms of the digital world," he told BBC Sport.

"So I'm sure it'll be the way forward and in the future it'll probably be the reality. I think it's a good way to gauge how many people are interested."

Andrew Croker, executive chairman of Perform, insisted England fans would "embrace" the internet broadcast.

"I think consumers are pretty sophisticated now, particularly in the UK, where we have been in the vanguard of adopting new technology," he told BBC Sport.

"I think people want a choice - the chance to watch football in a different way. This is pioneering, very exciting and I think people will enjoy it."

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8286886.stm
 
Surely it'll be free to stream elsewhere anyway.

This 'I'm outraged' bollocks is a bit tedious. We've qualified already, ffs, and you had to pay when the International matches were on Setanta - so get a grip.
 
Thanks for your input Rio. Tit.

Shit shit shit. Most fellas enjoy a pint while watching the game, so until the pubs get on board with streamed footage on their big screens, then it will never take off. I wouldnt be arsed paying for a stream, if it is not on at the pub then I suppose I will just watch Ireland lose.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=36292.msg958193#msg958193 date=1254772044]
"I think people want a choice - the chance to watch football in a different way. This is pioneering, very exciting and I think people will enjoy it."
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I'm spending $1000 a year beginning in Christmas solely to not have to watch football on the internet anymore, because it's shit, even though I get cable with my rent for free. It's not in demand, it's not in any decent resolution, it isn't better to pay for it than get it for free. I've done paid dedicated TV over IP with a set top box, I've done dodgy pay sites, and I've done free streams. It's all just not very good. It certainly isn't pioneering.
 
Pay sites are a lot better now than they were.

I, for the first time ever, dared to put a stream on my projector on Sat. It was great, me & two mates watched it, & one mate didnt even realise it was a stream till the other one mentioned it, at least 25 minutes in.
 
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Pay sites are a lot better now than they were.

I, for the first time ever, dared to put a stream on my projector on Sat. It was great, me & two mates watched it, & one mate didnt even realise it was a stream till the other one mentioned it, at least 25 minutes in.
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FLF? I used that last year and it was pretty good, but not great, has it improved since?
 
It doesn't really matter anyway, look, how much would you pay not to wake up at 445 on a saturday morning? There's no reliable way of recording any of these online sites.
 
Actually, FLFooty (& possibly liveonlinefooty too, dunno, not used them for a while) have a built in record function in their new streamplayers.
 
Though, if you're gonna do that you may as well just download the game, it takes 10mins max on a decent connection, set up an rss feed to auto-download torrents or, even better, newsgroups, & you're sorted.
 
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=36292.msg958273#msg958273 date=1254781612]
Though, if you're gonna do that you may as well just download the game, it takes 10mins max on a decent connection, set up an rss feed to auto-download torrents or, even better, newsgroups, & you're sorted.
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I'm on a university network which is ridiculously fast, but is also packet shaped, requires security software etc...

Yes, there are ways around it, but its a cat and mouse game that I'm not interested in constantly being involved in, and it's my girlfriend that gets the inquiries about ports and other things she's never heard of.

I haven't been into newsgroups for ages, so perhaps that'd be a way in the meantime. I'll look into it.

There's something to be said for having a brainless HD feed though, and I do like to watch as many games live as possible.
 
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