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Cracking first 11 but a bit cunt after that.
With that in mind, who's your 23 to get on the plane to Africa?

Id take.
James
Green
Bridge
Cole
Johnson
Brown
Terry
Ferdinand
King
Upson
Hargreaves (if fit)
Barry
Lampard
Gerrard
Beckham
Lennon
Young
Cole
Rooney
Crouch
Agbonlahor
Defoe
Walcott

The four casualties being Lescott, Swp, Heskey and Bent.
I think King is a much better than Lescott and being as its only going to be in emergency he should be fine, also Brown could cover.
I also think theres a place for just one of Lennon and swp and Lennon is better.
And Bent is too slow. And heskey too shite.
 
Don't disagree with much there.

Although you've forgotten Milner completely, who should definitely be on the plane. And Jenas or Carrick over Hargreeves, too, because there's not a chance he'll be ready.
 
Of course that wasn't the first 11 that played today, but just in general, its the lack of flare/creativity in the midfield area that prevents the attack from becoming promising. Players like xavi/iniesta/fabreagas know how to play the short/longer passes, and can spot movement in and around the midfield/attacking wide areas. They see passes that other players don't see.

It's actually infuriating to see them play, capello/mourinho/wenger won't be able to change that either as this is a very natural thing, you either have it or don't..what a shame.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=37198.msg988732#msg988732 date=1258230588]
Don't we need a 3rd GK?
[/quote]I dont think theres a rule. Id just take 2 personally.
 
I'm not sure we should be taking Agbonlahor and Walcott as well as Defoe. There's not much variety there if we need a change of plan. I'd sooner see Carlton Cole in there. (I'm assuming the other Cole you've put in is Joe Cole who should definitely be in the squad as far as I'm concerned.)
 
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[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=37198.msg988732#msg988732 date=1258230588]
Don't we need a 3rd GK?
[/quote]I dont think theres a rule. Id just take 2 personally.
[/quote]

Fair enough.

I thought it was a rule.
 
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=37198.msg988739#msg988739 date=1258231441]
I'm not sure we should be taking Agbonlahor and Walcott as well as Defoe. There's not much variety there if we need a change of plan. I'd sooner see Carlton Cole in there. (I'm assuming the other Cole you've put in is Joe Cole who should definitely be in the squad as far as I'm concerned.)
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Yeah, I'd take Carlton Cole as well. Carrick ahead of Hargreaves and Milner ahead of Young.
 
I have been saying we have been similar for ages fella, no left winger for years, too many long balls, always try to hang on to a slender lead.



the striker are the main talking point.

I would take, defoe, rooney, crouch and agbonalahor.

Fabio will swap heskey for Gabriel


SWP to miss out as well
 
You are 100% right about nothing beyond the first 11. I'd say 22 are ceerts and the only question is who we take as left sided back-up to Joe Cole

James, Green

Bridge, A. Cole
Terry, Ferdinand, King, Upson
Johnson, Brown

Hargreaves, Barry
Lampard, Gerrard
Beckham, Lennon
J. Cole, [Milner, SWP, Walcott]

Rooney, Heskey, Agbonlahor, Defoe
 
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*thinks out loud*

I THOUGHT WE WERE LIKE NEWCASTLE?


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I laughted !
 
england should just play 433 and be done with it.

cole and johnson are as good a pair of attacking fullbacks as most.

james

johnson ferdinand terry cole

barry lampard gerrard in the middle

lennon rooney agbonlahor/j cole up front.

strength in depth exists all across the team this way. shame we ain't got the balls to play this so will likely be a 1/4 final team at best.
 
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[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=37198.msg988739#msg988739 date=1258231441]
I'm not sure we should be taking Agbonlahor and Walcott as well as Defoe. There's not much variety there if we need a change of plan. I'd sooner see Carlton Cole in there. (I'm assuming the other Cole you've put in is Joe Cole who should definitely be in the squad as far as I'm concerned.)
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Yeah, I'd take Carlton Cole as well. Carrick ahead of Hargreaves and Milner ahead of Young.
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Not sure about Carrick. I suppose he has more experience than the other alternatives.

As for Carlton Cole, I'd be pleasantly surprised if Capello took him. He can do everything Heskey can plus he scores goals. It's a no-brainer from where I'm sitting. I think he'll take Heskey though, which depresses me to be honest.
 
Id take.
GK James
GK Green
LB Bridge
LB Cole
RB Johnson
RB Richards
CB Terry
CB Ferdinand
CB Taylor (newcastle)
CB Upson
MD Barry
MD Lampard
MD Gerrard
MD Beckham
MD Lennon
MD Young
MD SWP
ST Rooney
ST Crouch
ST Agbonlahor
ST Defoe
ST Bent
ST C.Cole
 
Not sure about Bridge.

He's been fucking awful for City.

England must have a better LB.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37198.msg988896#msg988896 date=1258263614]
Not sure about Bridge.

He's been fucking awful for City.

England must have a better LB.
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Lescott? :🙂
 
Omitting Heskey from your England side/squad, is like leaving Kuyt out of a Liverpool side or squad;

Fucking pointless.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37198.msg988896#msg988896 date=1258263614]
Not sure about Bridge.

He's been fucking awful for City.

England must have a better LB.
[/quote]

Gibbs.
 
Hart
Green
Foster

Johnson
Richards
Terry
Ferdinand
Upson
King
Bridge
Ashley Cole

Gerrard
Lampard
Barry
Walcott
Young
Hargreaves
Joe Cole
Wright-Phillips

Rooney
Bent
Heskey
Agbonlahor
 
Not sure about reserve RB and LB, but I'm pretty sure this will be the squad:

Hart
Green
James

Johnson
Richards
Terry
Ferdinand
Upson
King
Bridge
Ashley Cole

Gerrard
Lampard
Barry
Walcott
Milner
Carrick
Joe Cole
Wright-Phillips

Defoe
Rooney
Heskey
Cole
 
James, Hart, Green

Johnson, Terry, Ferdinand, A Cole, Upson, Brown, Lescott

Lennon/Walcott (whoever is in good form), Lampard, Hargreaves, Gerrard, Barry, Beckham, J Cole, Young

Rooney, Defoe, Agbonlahor, Owen, Heskey
 
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James, Hart, Green

Johnson, Terry, Ferdinand, A Cole, Upson, Brown, Lescott

Lennon/Walcott (whoever is in good form), Lampard, Hargreaves, Gerrard, Barry, Beckham, J Cole, Young

Rooney, Defoe, Agbonlahor, Owen, Heskey


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i'd take crouch and choose between one of agbonlahor and owen but the rest is prety spot on
 
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[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=37198.msg989615#msg989615 date=1258386564]
James, Hart, Green

Johnson, Terry, Ferdinand, A Cole, Upson, Brown, Lescott

Lennon/Walcott (whoever is in good form), Lampard, Hargreaves, Gerrard, Barry, Beckham, J Cole, Young

Rooney, Defoe, Agbonlahor, Owen, Heskey
[/quote]

i'd take crouch and choose between one of agbonlahor and owen but the rest is prety spot on
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I hate watching Crouch play football so i don't want him there. Ive gone without Bridge as Lescott can fill in at left back if need be to account for an extra striker which is Owen. Agbonlahor is in as a striker but also emergency right winger if Lennon/Walcott gets injured and we need a pacy outlet on the right. I don't think we need to take both Lennon and Walcott for this reason and im not a fan of Wright-Phillips on the left so Young is preferred to him for me.
 
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Not sure about reserve RB and LB, but I'm pretty sure this will be the squad:

Hart
Green
James

Johnson
Richards
Terry
Ferdinand
Upson
King
Bridge
Ashley Cole

Gerrard
Lampard
Barry
Walcott
Milner
Carrick
Joe Cole
Wright-Phillips

Defoe
Rooney
Heskey
Cole
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think you and mouse are forgetting Lennon, no way he is being left out. He has been Englands best RW for this season no doubt.

SWP will not go
 
Possibly, I'm not really arsed which tricky winger goes.

Neither are brilliant.

Pick whoever's in better form at the time.
 
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