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Liverpool to bring in second member of Bayern Munich’s backroom staff
• Nutritionist Mona Nemmer to join fitness coach Andreas Kornmayer
• Jürgen Klopp will oversee triple training sessions in pre-season

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Jürgen Klopp says Liverpool players participating in Euro 2016 may miss the first two weeks of next season to give them time to work on their fitness. Photograph: Domenech Castello/EPA


Jürgen Klopp will put Liverpool players through triple training sessions and hire a second member of Bayern Munich’s backroom staff in pre-season as he seeks to improve fitness levels for the 2016-17 campaign.
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The Liverpool manager, a long-time admirer of Bayern’s fitness work, has already tempted Andreas Kornmayer to leave his position as fitness coach at the Allianz Arena for Anfield this summer. To the annoyance of Carlo Ancelotti, who is to replace the Manchester City-bound Pep Guardiola, Bayern’s nutritionist Mona Nemmer has also accepted Klopp’s invitation to be part of a new-look conditioning team at Anfield next season.
Nemmer is regarded as one of the leading nutritionists in elite sport and joined Bayern in 2013 after five years with the German football association, where she also worked with the senior national team. She is expected to join up with Liverpool in pre-season when the players will face a demanding training schedule in Klopp’s first summer in charge.
“It will be triple training sessions, of course,” said the Liverpool manager, who will be based in California for part of pre-season for friendlies against Chelsea and Milan. “The problem with pre-season is that for the first three weeks we have 15 players who will have been away at the Euros and we also have to see how the squad is changing. On another planet we would have six weeks together training because in this league it is the only time that you can train.
“In all of the [pre-season] games we will play out full training. So if we play our best in pre-season then I’ve done something completely wrong. We have to do a lot to create a base for one year. We stop pre-season in the middle of August and maybe with the players who come back from the Euros it will be difficult so we might have to make their pre-season two weeks longer so that it goes into the season. That might mean they do not play at that stage or they are only allowed to play so many minutes.”
Klopp has often lamented his lack of training time with Liverpool this season, having replaced Brendan Rodgers last October and overseen a hectic fixture schedule because of the team’s progress to the Europa Leagueand Capital One Cup finals. His confidence in Liverpool showing a vast improvement next season is based in part on being free to impose his ideas during pre-season.
The German added: “We have a special plan of what we want to do with the boys. They cannot go home now when they are off at the end of the season. Nearly all of them have national team games but you cannot have six weeks off. You have something like four weeks and in four weeks you cannot sleep for the whole time so you have two weeks completely off and you have a plan and you have to do it. That means when you come back you are not at nil, you are at 60-70% and then you can start training. That’s how it works.
“Everything you do is based around physical potential and what you do in pre-season is key to that. We are now really fit but because of the games – our best sessions have been the games. On the one side we play a little bit too often and it’s too intense training but usually we are in a good shape and you saw against Chelsea that Emre [Can] played again after three weeks off. It was hard for him but it was very important for him to get through it. That shows the right training works. That is how it is and that’s why we will train a lot.”
 
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Dated Jul 2013:
[article]Bayern set a new sporting benchmark last term by winning the legendary treble, but new boss Pep Guardiola and his men will not rest on their laurels, and intend to improve whatever can be improved, on and off the field. One of these "pieces in the jigsaw," as Matthias Sammer likes to call them, is nutrition. "We want to be even more professional in this area and take the next step," the board director told fcbayern.de.

Coach Guardiola shares that opinion, as he regards the right diet as the third of the three essential pillars in elite sport, alongside training and regeneration. Bayern already employ one of the best thanks to the services provided by top chef Alfons Schuhbeck and his team, but the club will benefit in the future from the expertise of Mona Nemmer, a qualified nutrition instructor and a leading nutritionist in top-level sport.

The 28-year-old was introduced to the players at the training camp in Trentino on Saturday evening. During the week on Lake Garda, Nemmer will get to know the normal routines at the club, and begin shifting the individual players' nutritional plans to an even higher level. "I'm very happy to listen to what she has to say. Regardless of your age, you can always get better," commented model athlete Daniel van Buyten. Newcomer Jan Kirchhoff is just as impressed: "Mona is already a hit thanks to her open, personal approach."

Germany junior international Kirchhoff has already benefited from Nemmer's advice, as the qualified chef worked for the German FA (DFB) for five years. Nemmer also occasionally stood in for DFB head chef Holger Stromberg with the senior national team, so she is not unknown to Philipp Lahm and company either.

Nemmer will now combine theory and practice with FCB. On the one hand, she will explain her ideas regarding daily diet plans and offer individual players advice in liaison with medical unit specialist Dr Roland Schmidt. Certain players have already begun adapting their diets accordingly. And on the other hand, she will help out proactively in the kitchen.

Nemmer will also devote a proportion of her time to the junior team youth section. Sammer wishes to instil an awareness of proper nutrition to the talented youths at an early stage. Nemmer's teaching experience and qualities will be an essential factor.

The new staff member will also implement teambuilding exercises such as cooking sessions. The aim is to professionalise the club's work even with its most junior players, increasing the chances they might one day emulate their senior role models and lay hands on the biggest trophies in the game.[/article]

From "Pep Confidential: Inside Pep Guardiola's First Season at Bayern Munich"
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She looks semi-fit from that last pic.

On another note, what exactly would be the ideal diet for a footballer? Surprised that pasta is still seen in high regard.

I read a lot about a no-carb diet being optimal for sportstmen, because you enter ketosis and end up burning fat rather than carbs, which is apparently more efficient. Or something like that. Some say you should have fatty bacon and eggs before running a marathon / sport etc.

I've tried the no-carb paleo diet a few times, but gave up after a week ago, because its not sustainable or practical.
 
Klopp has a pretty weird idea of getting his revenge if all this turns out to be payback for Bayern poaching Gotze and Lewandowski under him at Dortmund.
 
JohnnyRocket said:
She looks semi-fit from that last pic.

On another note, what exactly would be the ideal diet for a footballer? Surprised that pasta is still seen in high regard.
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I was a bit surprised by that too,
but with the amount of training they do some carbs after a session/match is probably necessary.

From the little I've seen of Bayern though they always appear to be a physically dominant team so taking their fitness coach and dietician should be a positive move.
 
JohnnyRocket said:
She looks semi-fit from that last pic.

On another note, what exactly would be the ideal diet for a footballer? Surprised that pasta is still seen in high regard.

I read a lot about a no-carb diet being optimal for sportstmen, because you enter ketosis and end up burning fat rather than carbs, which is apparently more efficient. Or something like that. Some say you should have fatty bacon and eggs before running a marathon / sport etc.

I've tried the no-carb paleo diet a few times, but gave up after a week ago, because its not sustainable or practical.
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I'm not a fit 28-year old nutritionist but from what I understand...

Ketosis (burning fat) will always be a slower process than using glycogen, whether in your liver or your muscles, even after the body has adapted to burn fat efficiently.

The upshot of this is that ketosis is more efficient than liver glycogen over the length of a day, or for marathons etc, since it does not depend on the level of glycogen in your liver which varies with what/when you eat. (It has the added self-explanatory benefit of burning your body fat).

However, for fast, explosive actions the body's default and quickest energy source is not liver glycogen, or fat, but the glycogen stores in your muscles. Burning fat would take too long.

After a game, glycogen in the muscles are depleted and must be replenished before the next game, or performance will suffer. Without sufficient carbohydrates, muscle glycogen can still be replenished through protein alone but it will take a longer time.

Most athletes will therefore eat carbs just before and after a game as a boost, while training the body to burn fats as an energy source during off-season.
 
This is a HUGE move.

That may sound like hyperbole, but I read a shitton of articles about klopp when we got him & loads of the German journos linked Dortmund's slump with the loss of their physical trainer & nutritionist. Apparently the effect on the players energy levels was apparent throughout that season.

This means he's aware of that issue & wants to ensure it doesn't become a problem next season for us.
 
In related news:

Jurgen Klopp will introduce triple training sessions for his Liverpool players in pre-season as he attempts to get a flying start to next year.

The Reds boss is already looking forward to next year with his backroom staff about to be strengthed by the arrival of Andreas Kornmayer from Bayern Munich as head of fitness and conditioning.

And it appears that Kornmayer - who has spent the last decade at his home town club - will oversee an intense pre-season regime to allow the Reds to hit the ground running in 2016/17.

Klopp believes his team only got really fit this season playing games and his comments are certain to be interpreted as a sign he was unhappy with the state of the squad’s conditioning when he took over at Anfield from Brendan Rodgers in early October.

A spate of resulting injuries were blamed in some quarters on Klopp’s physically demanding pressing game while others suggested he had not given the players time enough to adjust to his new methods.

The only thing hovering over Klopp’s plans for pre-season are the Euros with so many Liverpool players likely to arrive back late after involvement in the championships.

Klopp said: “It’s triple training sessions, of course.

“I’m really looking forward to pre-season. The problem with pre-season is that for the first three weeks we have 15 players who will have been away at the European Championship and we also have to see how the squad is changing.

“On another planet we would have six weeks together where we train because in this league it is the only time when you can only train. In all of the (pre-season) games we will play we will play out full training. So if we play our best in pre-season then I’ve done something completely wrong. It’s another session, it’s not about beating our opponents. I don’t care about how big the opponent is we will say nothing about the situation.”

Liverpool are set to play a number of pre-season games in the UK as well as the tour of America, with visits to Tranmere and Huddersfield - where Klopp’s close friend David Wagner is manager - among the games expected to be announced.

Klopp believes he may have to be careful with players returning from the Euros and potentially limit their playing time in the first few weeks of the season.

He added: “We have to do a lot to create a base for one year. We stop pre-season in the middle of August - maybe with the players who come back from the Euros it will be difficult so we might have to make their pre-season two weeks longer so that it goes into the season. That might mean they do not play at that stage or they are only allowed to play so many minutes.

“Football is about training and all that we have done is because of the work we’ve done together. We have a special plan of what we want to do with the boys. They cannot go home now when they are off. Nearly all of them have national team games now so you cannot have six weeks off, you have something like four weeks and in four weeks you cannot sleep for the whole time, so you have two weeks completely off and you have a plan and you have to do it.

"That means when you come back you are not at nil, you are at 60-70% and then you can start training. That’s how it works.

“Everything you do is based around physical potential and what you create in pre-season is key to that. We are now really fit but because of the games, our best sessions have been the games.

"On the one side we play a little bit too often and it’s too intense training but usually we are in a good shape and you saw against Chelsea that Emre played again after three weeks off. It was hard for him but it was very important for him to get through it. That shows the right training works. That is how it is and that’s why we will train a lot.”
 
FoxForceFive said:
This is a HUGE move.

That may sound like hyperbole, but I read a shitton of articles about klopp when we got him & loads of the German journos linked Dortmund's slump with the loss of their physical trainer & nutritionist. Apparently the effect on the players energy levels was apparent throughout that season.

This means he's aware of that issue & wants to ensure it doesn't become a problem next season for us.
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Great.

I've always had a problem with spending millions on loads of players from around the world then simply hiring graduates from the local Uni to train them.

Finally ....
 
Given his justified compliants about the amount of games we've played this year, it will be interesting to see how much 'respect' Klopps shows to the national cups next year if we do qualify for the Champions League. Personally I hope it's fuck all. We need a strong league showing above all else.

These appointments make complete sense given the intensity which Klopp demands. We need the very best in nutrition and fitness and it looks like we've secured it. It's not much to get excited about but at the same time, as Keni says, it's world's apart from signing the ex Doncaster manager.
 
The Euros have come at a really bad time for us.

Can't imagine how intimidating we'd be like next season if Klopp had all summer with Sturridge, Origi, Lallana, Milner and Henderson.


Thankfully Firmino will be around.
 
JohnnyRocket said:
Can we get their goalkeeping coach as well?

And while we're at it, could we get Southampton's scouting team?
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The Southampton thing might be a bit dodgy. We hired their Academy guy Malcolm Elias and that turned out to be a massive damp squib. He's now at Fulham or some such nowhere outfit.
 
cloggypop said:
That's some quiff.
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Well, no, it's not. The op is about bringing in a nutritionist, the other is specifically about changes to training. Yes there are some bits in common because they came from the same group chat, but they were meant for the second report, not the first, unless you think the nutritionist is running the training as well.
 
gkmacca said:
Well, no, it's not. The op is about bringing in a nutritionist, the other is specifically about changes to training. Yes there are some bits in common because they came from the same group chat, but they were meant for the second report, not the first, unless you think the nutritionist is running the training as well.
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Everything you posted is in the OP.

Maybe not every single word. Damn close though. Andreas Kornmeyer certainly is so not sure why I'd think the nutritionalist would be taking training.
 
Hyena said:
I'm not a fit 28-year old nutritionist but from what I understand...

Ketosis (burning fat) will always be a slower process than using glycogen, whether in your liver or your muscles, even after the body has adapted to burn fat efficiently.

The upshot of this is that ketosis is more efficient than liver glycogen over the length of a day, or for marathons etc, since it does not depend on the level of glycogen in your liver which varies with what/when you eat. (It has the added self-explanatory benefit of burning your body fat).

However, for fast, explosive actions the body's default and quickest energy source is not liver glycogen, or fat, but the glycogen stores in your muscles. Burning fat would take too long.

After a game, glycogen in the muscles are depleted and must be replenished before the next game, or performance will suffer. Without sufficient carbohydrates, muscle glycogen can still be replenished through protein alone but it will take a longer time.

Most athletes will therefore eat carbs just before and after a game as a boost, while training the body to burn fats as an energy source during off-season.
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This is a great explanation and jives with my understanding as well.
 
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