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What the hell does Whoopi Goldberg do there?
"Bugger me bandy, I came back for THIS?"
That face when you left your keys in the house and shut the door, that one
Paul Pogba reacts to Souness Comments..
'Why cant I be as good as my nike ad implies'
Is he really crying?
Looks that way, check the vid in the MatchThread
Though it looked to me like too much light for him after coming out of jonjo shelveys pocket.
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If he is crying, I guarantee that it's not because his team is losing.
It's because he's from the 'pampered little shit' generation of late, and he's sad that he's not getting all the plaudits he usually gets for doing the bare minimum.
We should all be very gentle with him, as we might hurt his feelings otherwise.
It's because he's from the 'pampered little shit' generation of late, and he's sad that he's not getting all the plaudits he usually gets for doing the bare minimum.
We should all be very gentle with him, as we might hurt his feelings otherwise.
"Ah well, wouldn't have made it to the shitter anyway"
Looks, he's clearly talented, and will no doubt go on to become a very good player - but I just think he's playing under absolutely the wrong manager.
I can't remember Mourinho ever indulging central midfielders. None of his great teams ever had someone in the middle of the park who wasn't fundamentally drilled into a structure or had a clear role to play. I might be wrong of course. He just seems to me like he's too ill-disciplined to play in a Mourinho team. It's like being good at most things works to his detriment cos he's not amazing at one task. He's not a DM, a playmaker, a goalscorer, a disruptor, a box-to-box player. He can do all of those roles sure, but not really well, and certainly not to the levels Mourinho requires.
He reminds me of the Veron signing. Clearly a fantastic footballer, but maybe in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I can't remember Mourinho ever indulging central midfielders. None of his great teams ever had someone in the middle of the park who wasn't fundamentally drilled into a structure or had a clear role to play. I might be wrong of course. He just seems to me like he's too ill-disciplined to play in a Mourinho team. It's like being good at most things works to his detriment cos he's not amazing at one task. He's not a DM, a playmaker, a goalscorer, a disruptor, a box-to-box player. He can do all of those roles sure, but not really well, and certainly not to the levels Mourinho requires.
He reminds me of the Veron signing. Clearly a fantastic footballer, but maybe in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Bit wordy for a caption mate.
*Pogba thought bubble*
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Frank Lampard, maybe?
In any case, how many central midfielders playing under anyone can just waltz about the place doing whatever the fuck they want? None.
Unless of course, they're given a free, advanced role with two CMs sitting behind them. He can't play like that with just Matic holding, which is why a new CM will be on his list in summer.
Essien was great for Mourinho before he got injured as well.
People talking about players from a decade ago, when mourinho wasn't so scared of losing.
Recently he's a massive shithouse and couldn't develop a player or forge a team if he tried.
He needs another midfielder to partner matic, and pogba playing there instead of the attacking mid role is hilarious.
He's bought talent, but he's no clue where to play them.
Shifting martial to the right to accommodate Sanchez, shoehorning in lingard rather than play Sanchez or pogba there, no partner for matic, STILL relying on smalling and Jones....
He'll be quacking on about how he needs another half billion to make the competitive
Recently he's a massive shithouse and couldn't develop a player or forge a team if he tried.
He needs another midfielder to partner matic, and pogba playing there instead of the attacking mid role is hilarious.
He's bought talent, but he's no clue where to play them.
Shifting martial to the right to accommodate Sanchez, shoehorning in lingard rather than play Sanchez or pogba there, no partner for matic, STILL relying on smalling and Jones....
He'll be quacking on about how he needs another half billion to make the competitive
I love that there are enough games left for Spurs to go on a run and for Chelsea to potentially also catch United. It is kind of a tough choice of who i'd rather finished fifth. I feel if Chelsea do so, they are going to find themselves with an owner who is ready to sell once the stadium starts and has planning signed off. If it is United, we all know they'll bounce back. I feel like Chelsea dropping out could lead to lasting damage for the club - especially if/when Hazard leaves in the summer.
As for Pogba - i agree. He is a luxury player who belongs in an attacking team and flourishes when in possession. Without the ball and under pressure he is almost worthless.
As for Pogba - i agree. He is a luxury player who belongs in an attacking team and flourishes when in possession. Without the ball and under pressure he is almost worthless.
Mourinho’s Pogba problem deepens after Benítez overcomes his old foe
by Jonathan Wilson
The Manchester United manager’s talk of luck held no weight on a day when his clumsily assembled attack were again lifeless
The end was chaotic, Newcastle camped in their box with every block and clearance being roared to the rafters, but the tension of that final minute of injury time, and the similarly desperate scramble at around 80 minutes, should not allow the narrative to take hold that Manchester United were unlucky to lose. Rather they were desperately drab, short of inspiration, their forward line a strange bodge job of sparkly parts that do not really go together.
You dread to think what Jorge Valdano would have made of it. It was a battle between Rafa Benítez and José Mourinho, when in charge of Liverpool and Chelsea in the semi-final of the 2007 Champions League, that the former Argentina striker infamously likened to “a shit hanging from a stick”, insisting it was not art, no matter how august or appreciative the gallery in which it was placed.
This was not art either, but it was raucously enjoyed by home fans who may have doubts about their side’s quality, but certainly cannot doubt the commitment. Benítez kept setting and resetting the defensive line, as is his habit, but the win was rooted as much in the heart and desire of his players as his organisation. That and the strange disjointedness of United.
Beyond the crude imagery, Valdano bemoaned the lack of individual creativity in that 2007 game. He was frustrated by the absence of imagination in a clash between two sides whose managers seemed to lack any faith in their players to take the initiative and act outside a proscriptive blueprint.
This 18th meeting between the two former Real Madrid coaches was predictably tight, at least until Matt Ritchie put Newcastle ahead after 65 minutes, after which it took on a frenetic quality. Mourinho spoke positively of the effort of his own players, but that is a minimum requirement. “Were they lucky?” he asked of Newcastle. “Yes they were. But sometimes you attract that luck with your state of mind.”
Equally, though, it could be asked of Manchester United whether they were actually good. And the answer would be just as emphatic: no they were not, and that perhaps in turn encouraged Newcastle.
Maybe there is a sense of being spoiled by the verve of Manchester City and, to a lesser extent, Liverpool and Tottenham, but there was something unsatisfyingly scrappy about this United side, plenty of energy but not a huge amount in the way of quality or incision.
Every now and again someone will do something dangerous – they remain extremely gifted players – as when Nemanja Matic played in Anthony Martial with a finely weighted pass before the break, or when Alexis Sánchez shuffled through on the hour, but it all seemed very individualistic, piecemeal, lacking the cohesion of the most exciting sides in the division. The addition of Sánchez, it seems, has done nothing to solve the Paul Pogba problem. Perhaps in time a way will emerge by which all of United’s expensive stars can play together, but they have not found it yet.
Pogba remains an enormous frustration, manifestly talented and capable of the moments of penetration, but without an obvious role in a 4-2-3-1: he lacks the control, as Graeme Souness keeps pointing out, to play deep, but is too dependent on space in front of him to be the No 10. Here his touch was oddly heavy, his passing awry, his temptation always to overcomplicate, and it was no surprise when he was withdrawn as soon as United had fallen behind.
Sánchez’s arrival, meanwhile, has done little to improve the form of Romelu Lukaku, and has disrupted both Jesse Lingard, who was withdrawn with Pogba, and Martial, who seemed lost wide on the right. The two players who were giving United attacking verve, in other words, have seemingly been snuffed out by the arrival of another.
Those final seconds may have been tense for the home fans, but a team of United’s stature and aspirations should have rather more sophisticated modes of attack than simply lumping it into the box.
by Jonathan Wilson
The Manchester United manager’s talk of luck held no weight on a day when his clumsily assembled attack were again lifeless
The end was chaotic, Newcastle camped in their box with every block and clearance being roared to the rafters, but the tension of that final minute of injury time, and the similarly desperate scramble at around 80 minutes, should not allow the narrative to take hold that Manchester United were unlucky to lose. Rather they were desperately drab, short of inspiration, their forward line a strange bodge job of sparkly parts that do not really go together.
You dread to think what Jorge Valdano would have made of it. It was a battle between Rafa Benítez and José Mourinho, when in charge of Liverpool and Chelsea in the semi-final of the 2007 Champions League, that the former Argentina striker infamously likened to “a shit hanging from a stick”, insisting it was not art, no matter how august or appreciative the gallery in which it was placed.
This was not art either, but it was raucously enjoyed by home fans who may have doubts about their side’s quality, but certainly cannot doubt the commitment. Benítez kept setting and resetting the defensive line, as is his habit, but the win was rooted as much in the heart and desire of his players as his organisation. That and the strange disjointedness of United.
Beyond the crude imagery, Valdano bemoaned the lack of individual creativity in that 2007 game. He was frustrated by the absence of imagination in a clash between two sides whose managers seemed to lack any faith in their players to take the initiative and act outside a proscriptive blueprint.
This 18th meeting between the two former Real Madrid coaches was predictably tight, at least until Matt Ritchie put Newcastle ahead after 65 minutes, after which it took on a frenetic quality. Mourinho spoke positively of the effort of his own players, but that is a minimum requirement. “Were they lucky?” he asked of Newcastle. “Yes they were. But sometimes you attract that luck with your state of mind.”
Equally, though, it could be asked of Manchester United whether they were actually good. And the answer would be just as emphatic: no they were not, and that perhaps in turn encouraged Newcastle.
Maybe there is a sense of being spoiled by the verve of Manchester City and, to a lesser extent, Liverpool and Tottenham, but there was something unsatisfyingly scrappy about this United side, plenty of energy but not a huge amount in the way of quality or incision.
Every now and again someone will do something dangerous – they remain extremely gifted players – as when Nemanja Matic played in Anthony Martial with a finely weighted pass before the break, or when Alexis Sánchez shuffled through on the hour, but it all seemed very individualistic, piecemeal, lacking the cohesion of the most exciting sides in the division. The addition of Sánchez, it seems, has done nothing to solve the Paul Pogba problem. Perhaps in time a way will emerge by which all of United’s expensive stars can play together, but they have not found it yet.
Pogba remains an enormous frustration, manifestly talented and capable of the moments of penetration, but without an obvious role in a 4-2-3-1: he lacks the control, as Graeme Souness keeps pointing out, to play deep, but is too dependent on space in front of him to be the No 10. Here his touch was oddly heavy, his passing awry, his temptation always to overcomplicate, and it was no surprise when he was withdrawn as soon as United had fallen behind.
Sánchez’s arrival, meanwhile, has done little to improve the form of Romelu Lukaku, and has disrupted both Jesse Lingard, who was withdrawn with Pogba, and Martial, who seemed lost wide on the right. The two players who were giving United attacking verve, in other words, have seemingly been snuffed out by the arrival of another.
Those final seconds may have been tense for the home fans, but a team of United’s stature and aspirations should have rather more sophisticated modes of attack than simply lumping it into the box.
Pogba would probably be fantastic for us. We should offer them a swap for Gini.
Lampard scored goals AND worked his socks off every week. I get that Makalele and Essien/Ballack were there to provide defensive cover for him, but that was their role - Lampard's was to score the goals.
Pogba's not offering that.
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