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I saw some study has concluded that Benteke was the least value signing after martial this summer. Sterling was the best value. I don't doubt it that much.
 
There is nothing on ESPN about this, sounds like bullshit. Also if we were going to sack him after a poor result then getting dicked 3-0 at home by West Ham was much worse than losing away at Old Trafford which has happened most seasons for the last 20 years. It does feel like hes waiting for the bullet now, but I have absolutely no faith in FSG to get the appointment right. This is a management group whose entire shortlist for one of the biggest jobs in world football was Rodgers and Martinez. They have displayed a stunning lack of ambition so far and I wouldnt be too confident that is about to change, people are assuming it will be Klopp if Rodgers does go but Im not so sure he would work with FSG
 
........ people are assuming it will be Klopp if Rodgers does go but Im not so sure he would work with FSG
Why would he not work with FSG ? Owners that support the manager with funds and give him time to follow his vision ?
 
I hope John Henry roundhouses the shit out of Rodgers and says "Time's up, buddy".

Anything else and I say we get a march/ticket boycott going.
 
Why would he not work with FSG ? Owners that support the manager with funds and give him time to follow his vision ?


They are half arsing it with this scattergun transfer committe approach to signings, and happy to sell off our best players whenever somebody comes knocking with cash. Hes already built one great side and seen it broken apart by a club eager to sell off its best talent rather than invest in retaining it, its a law of diminishing returns, you cant expect to make progress if you keep selling players like Suarez and Sterling and then just hoping you can spend 50 million on 4 players gambling one of them might come good 2 or 3 years down the line. I cant think of any successful club that operates a similar transfer policy to us.
 
There is nothing on ESPN about this, sounds like bullshit. Also if we were going to sack him after a poor result then getting dicked 3-0 at home by West Ham was much worse than losing away at Old Trafford which has happened most seasons for the last 20 years. It does feel like hes waiting for the bullet now, but I have absolutely no faith in FSG to get the appointment right. This is a management group whose entire shortlist for one of the biggest jobs in world football was Rodgers and Martinez. They have displayed a stunning lack of ambition so far and I wouldnt be too confident that is about to change, people are assuming it will be Klopp if Rodgers does go but Im not so sure he would work with FSG
Watching Everton play with a much smaller budget than ours makes me wish we'd appointed Martinez rather than Rodgers at the time.
They have shape, bring in youngsters, hardly wate money in the transfer market, and actually play football.

I wanted Martinez at the time, but was also happy to see them appoint Rodgers. Looks like a bad choice.
 
I hope John Henry roundhouses the shit out of Rodgers and says "Time's up, buddy".

Anything else and I say we get a march/ticket boycott going.

Wouldn't it better if he smashed him with a clock or something whilst saying "time's up buddy?"
It would be more American.
 
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Watching Everton play with a much smaller budget than ours makes me wish we'd appointed Martinez rather than Rodgers at the time.
They have shape, bring in youngsters, hardly wate money in the transfer market, and actually play football.

I wanted Martinez at the time, but was also happy to see them appoint Rodgers. Looks like a bad choice.

Yeah I have to agree. I've watched Everton 3 times already this season and have been impressed with their organisation, strength in defence (Stones & Coleman are awesome) and speed on the break. They look miles ahead of us.
 
You should read the rest of the tweets from that "ESPN" fella. Its all made up bs.
Wont be any board meeting.
 
They are half arsing it with this scattergun transfer committe approach to signings, and happy to sell off our best players whenever somebody comes knocking with cash. Hes already built one great side and seen it broken apart by a club eager to sell off its best talent rather than invest in retaining it, its a law of diminishing returns, you cant expect to make progress if you keep selling players like Suarez and Sterling and then just hoping you can spend 50 million on 4 players gambling one of them might come good 2 or 3 years down the line. I cant think of any successful club that operates a similar transfer policy to us.

FSG have certainly made their share of mistakes (though as it happens I would put their preference for a younger manager high on the list) but I don't agree with this summary of their approach to selling players. With both Suarez and Sterling they absolutely did not rush to sell but, on the contrary, resisted doing so till it became clear that the players themselves were adamant, and then held out for stonking transfer fees. They can be justifiably criticised for a number of things, but not for that.
 
FSG have certainly made their share of mistakes (though as it happens I would put their preference for a younger manager high on the list) but I don't agree with this summary of their approach to selling players. With both Suarez and Sterling they absolutely did not rush to sell but, on the contrary, resisted doing so till it became clear that the players themselves were adamant, and then held out for stonking transfer fees. They can be justifiably criticised for a number of things, but not for that.
Exactly JJ far from criticise I think they should be praised for standing as firm as they possibly could in these instances.

As far as the earlier post saying if they were going to sack him it would have been after the West Ham game as we expect to get beaten at Old Trafford - beaten is one thing but to be beaten with little or no passion and fight is something else - from the players persona, I think he's lost the dressing room as well - they look beaten before they start.
 
Watching Everton play with a much smaller budget than ours makes me wish we'd appointed Martinez rather than Rodgers at the time.
They have shape, bring in youngsters, hardly wate money in the transfer market, and actually play football.

I wanted Martinez at the time, but was also happy to see them appoint Rodgers. Looks like a bad choice.

Weren't they flirting with relegation last season?
 
I don't think they were ever under any real threat.
Still, they kept playing football throughout Martinez time there.
 
Part of that though has been a pretty poor defence at times. They've started this season much better at the back, but (a) they have yet to prove they can sustain it over the longer term and (b) what are they going to do when Stones buggers off to the Chavs or whoever next summer?
 
Part of that though has been a pretty poor defence at times. They've started this season much better at the back, but (a) they have yet to prove they can sustain it over the longer term and (b) what are they going to do when Stones buggers off to the Chavs or whoever next summer?


Agree with (a).
As for (b) - what did we do when Suarez left for Barca?
It's a test for Martinez. I believe he's signed an Argentine defender' so he must be preparing himself for Stones departure.

Look, I'm not sure Martinez is the perfect manager for us. All I'm saying is that I'm very disappointed with Rodgers, and looks like Martinez was a better choice,
 
Martinez was mocked as a disaster last season, wasn't he??? Where's this re-evaluation come from - because they've had a couple of decent results??
I don't get this either.

Martinez looked Shite last year and often called out for his tactical naivity

Peculiar
 
Agree with (a).
As for (b) - what did we do when Suarez left for Barca?
It's a test for Martinez. I believe he's signed an Argentine defender' so he must be preparing himself for Stones departure.

Look, I'm not sure Martinez is the perfect manager for us. All I'm saying is that I'm very disappointed with Rodgers, and looks like Martinez was a better choice,

When Suarez left we failed to replace him. That's my point - whatever improvement they may be making this season has Stones at the heart of it, and there's zero guarantee that that improvement will survive his departure. In fact one could argue it's unlikely to do so given Martinez' overall record. I don't think we're anywhere near being able to say that Martinez would have been a better choice - on the contrary, my guess would be that he'd have performed similarly to Rodgers if he'd been appointed, because FSG were fishing in the wrong pool right from the off.
 
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