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Bilic gets the boot

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West Ham United have sacked Slaven Bilic as manager and are set to appoint David Moyes on an initial six-month contract.

The club are in the relegation zone following Saturday’s 4-1 defeat by Liverpool and, barring a breakdown in negotiations, Moyes will take over. West Ham are offering him a deal until the end of the season, at which point Moyes’s future would be reviewed.

West Ham said in a statement: “West Ham United can confirm that Slaven Bilic has today left his position with the Club.

“The chairmen and board of West Ham United would like to place on record their thanks and gratitude to Slaven and his team for their services over the past two and a half years, but believe a change is now necessary in order for the club to move forward positively and in line with their ambition.

“West Ham United can confirm that Bilic’s coaching assistants Nikola Jurcevic, Edin Terzic, Julian Dicks and Miljenko Rak have also left the club with immediate effect.


“The club’s search for a new manager to take West Ham United forward is underway and an announcement regarding Bilic’s successor is expected to be made over the coming days.”

Moyes is out of work after finishing bottom of the Premier League with Sunderland last season. He has also managed in England’s top flight with Everton and Manchester United and had an unsuccessful spell with Real Sociedad in 2014-15.

Bilic took over as West Ham manager in 2015 and finished seventh in his first campaign, then 11th last season. His team have managed only two wins from their first 11 league games this season and the heavy defeat by Liverpool followed a 3-0 reverse against Brighton in their previous home match.
 
I saw he has just more points per game than Curbishley and Redknapp. I guess they had to act as it look like the whole club has lost something vital after the stadium move. I like Bilic... seem like a decent character and likeable guy.. But his team has lost direction. If the players doesn't get their shit together I can ser them falling further. It's amazing that the owners believe Moyes can inspire these guys at all. Disastrous choice if true.
 
Its Funny Moyes stock is still high given, crashing and burning in each of his last three jobs within 12 months of starting in each.
 
Its Funny Moyes stock is still high given, crashing and burning in each of his last three jobs within 12 months of starting in each.

As stated by Insig above, Moyes seems a strange appointment, even if it is as an interim

The fans made their antipathy clear, and that has apparently delayed the announcement which seemed as they say 'nailed on' yesterday, as the Dildo Brothers and Queen have had pause for thought.

Nothing really surprises me anymore in football, but an interim manager who has spectacularly failed in his last three jobs, replacing one who the fans did seem to like, at a club like West Ham (remember Fat sam's travails there?) who apparently demand a certain type of epansive football?

It doesn't bode well for Moyes if he does go there, although on the evidence of the season so far, it can't get much worse

Feel for Bilic, seems a decent sort and it was only two seasons ago that he was a hero after they finished seventh or whatever
 
If I were West Ham I’d line up millions and bring Rodgers in.
Even if they get relegated the supporters there would be gizzing over the football.
 
Moyes seems a very odd choice. The stadium move seems to be a very bad decision given how the football side of the business is going for West Ham.
On Saturday it was the 10th time they have conceded more than 3 goals at home since the move. Thats fucking shocking.
Going to Boelyn Ground/Upton Park used to be a pain in the arse for most teams. Now its gone to the point were Brighton can win 3-0.
They lost a bit of their footballing soul moving to that shite stadium.
 
That's actually a good shout.

Carroll would love it...

Not sure why it would cost millions, and not sure if a interim post would suit him.

I am unsure what West Ham should do, and they seem unsure themselves. A lot of managers taking on a Project like West Ham long term would need some time to arrange their own team, and West Ham have no time to turn this around, cause if they keep on letting in goals like yesterday and Brighton at home they will sink. They also have lost the Upton Park atmosphere when moving to the track&field stadium of London, and desperately need something special to build a strong momentum. Their whole club suited a narrow and noisey stadium where the fans on the front rows were within a yard of the Pitch. I believe they should be psuhing for consistent top half positions, but I can see it takes a long time to build the Club to do that.

Short term solutions should include considering Paolo Di Canio as he has some bond to the Club already. I know the Sunderland job went bollocks, but still. But these days he enjoys a job at Italian Sky so a short term is probably not lucrative. Short term is allways difficult for Clubs, as good managers will not tie up to that. So you're left With Moyes et al.

Long term that could suit them? Maybe they should try to pinch Rafa from Castle. Test how deep that relationship is.
 
Carroll would love it...

Not sure why it would cost millions, and not sure if a interim post would suit him.

Because Celtic would demand it and Rodgers has the profile to command more wages than a David Moyes or other third tier options (and back room staff) would cost.
Wouldn’t be an interim appointment either.
 
Tough on Bilic, an intelligent and articulate guy (especially for an ex-bluenose) whom I'd have liked to have seen doing well, but it just hasn't worked out for him there.

Moyes' appointment as caretaker till the end of the season is interesting in two ways. One: it may (however slightly) relieve the pressure which attaches to that job at the moment, and the appointment of caretakers in such circs.can sometimes give a club a decent lift. Two: it suggests they'll also be looking around at other options meanwhile, not just at Moyes and how he's doing. If they use the intervening period well, this may turn out not to be quite such a daft decision after all.

LFC-related observation: I'm glad we played them just before, rather than after, the new guy arrives. I'm fed up of playing clubs which have just appointed a new manager whom the players are busting their nuts to impress.
 
After reading Brede Hangelands story about Felix Magath, I want someone to hire him ASAP.

Hangeland was struggeling with a dead leg, and the club doctor said they could fix it with extracting the blood. But he had to get Magaths approval, as he had said that everything that happened had to be approved by him.
When Hangeland approached Magath, he was told that he should not go ahead with what the club doctor had suggested but instead apply a mix of cream cheese and alcohol on his leg, and then call his mother. This would then start a biological reaction in his body and fix the injury.

We have to get that man back to managing in the Premier league. Preferably Everton or Utd.
 
Some sources (Sky Italia, I think) claiming West Ham have approached (and been rejected by) Koeman, Paulo Sousa, Ancelotti and Dyche.
Moyes will be officially announced as manager (poss "interim") within 24 hours.
 
I'm starting to think that the size of the pitch has more effect on a team's style of play than anybody thought. Perhaps it's simply not feasible to continue playing the same way West Ham were playing on a wider pitch – and so Bilic just couldn't figure out why the tactics that worked before were now totally ineffective.

If this hypothesis is right, than maybe hiring an attacking manager like Rodgers or Roberto Martinez might actually suit them.
 
After reading Brede Hangelands story about Felix Magath, I want someone to hire him ASAP.

Hangeland was struggeling with a dead leg, and the club doctor said they could fix it with extracting the blood. But he had to get Magaths approval, as he had said that everything that happened had to be approved by him.
When Hangeland approached Magath, he was told that he should not go ahead with what the club doctor had suggested but instead apply a mix of cream cheese and alcohol on his leg, and then call his mother. This would then start a biological reaction in his body and fix the injury.

We have to get that man back to managing in the Premier league. Preferably Everton or Utd.
What is the specific purpose of the "mummy call" step in the quoted remedy? Seems to be a catalyst for the biological reaction

Edit - on reflection, I reckon Hangeland's ma was a wine & cheese freak, so the expectation was she would sink her teeth into her little boy's cream cheese & alcohol coated thigh, thus drawing blood in a more natural/less clinical manner than what the doctor had in mind
 
When was the last time we got a manager sacked? It used to be quite common back in the day, but I don't remember it happening much recently
 
I'm starting to think that the size of the pitch has more effect on a team's style of play than anybody thought. Perhaps it's simply not feasible to continue playing the same way West Ham were playing on a wider pitch – and so Bilic just couldn't figure out why the tactics that worked before were now totally ineffective.

If this hypothesis is right, than maybe hiring an attacking manager like Rodgers or Roberto Martinez might actually suit them.

West Ham will have had complete control over the pitch dimensions. They could make the pitch the exact same as Upton Park if they wanted to. What exactly is the difference between the two?
 
West Ham will have had complete control over the pitch dimensions. They could make the pitch the exact same as Upton Park if they wanted to. What exactly is the difference between the two?

I think it's also that space around it. Bilic was going on about it making the pitch look bigger than it actually is, and that was making his players give up on balls and run less.

wanted it painted so it wasn't green and didn;t look like grass. Or something.
 
I'm starting to think that the size of the pitch has more effect on a team's style of play than anybody thought. Perhaps it's simply not feasible to continue playing the same way West Ham were playing on a wider pitch – and so Bilic just couldn't figure out why the tactics that worked before were now totally ineffective.

If this hypothesis is right, than maybe hiring an attacking manager like Rodgers or Roberto Martinez might actually suit them.
I'm sure it has an effect, one other aspect that does have some statistical support is that the proximity of the fans to the pitch.

The close they are the greater a teams home advantage
 
There was an intersting article in one of the papers on Saturday about Everton, making the point that a managerial shortlist of Allardyce, Dyche, Howe and Silva was evidence that the club didn't know what it was looking for. Replacing Bilic with Moyes is the exact same mistake.
 
If I were West Ham I’d line up millions and bring Rodgers in.
Even if they get relegated the supporters there would be gizzing over the football.

Perfect fit from West Ham's perspective but not sure they'd be able to lure Rodgers away from a pretty good situation at Celtic
 
Perfect fit from West Ham's perspective but not sure they'd be able to lure Rodgers away from a pretty good situation at Celtic

Yeah. I think Rodgers would hold out for a bigger and better opportunity. His stock has never been higher since that one glorious 'nearly' season, and I can't see him jumping ship from Celtic half way through a season either.

Would show poor character
 
What is the specific purpose of the "mummy call" step in the quoted remedy? Seems to be a catalyst for the biological reaction

Edit - on reflection, I reckon Hangeland's ma was a wine & cheese freak, so the expectation was she would sink her teeth into her little boy's cream cheese & alcohol coated thigh, thus drawing blood in a more natural/less clinical manner than what the doctor had in mind

Well, it wasn't clear whose mother Hangeland was supposed to call. My theory is that Felix had bet his own mother that he could persuade a professional footballer to turn his leg into a makeshift cheese and wine party.
 
Yeah. I think Rodgers would hold out for a bigger and better opportunity. His stock has never been higher since that one glorious 'nearly' season, and I can't see him jumping ship from Celtic half way through a season either.

Would show poor character

I think he also has the ego to think that Barca or similar will be the next port of call if their win streak continues much further.
 
Moyes !!! - the guy I work with - is a massive Hammers fan and he is like 'what the fuck - he don't even sound right when he talks...' - he just won't fit in their. I can only think the owners have selected him because he will take them down in gentle way.
 
When did it becomes zero chance for luring a manager away from Patrick Thistle away games to manage in PL?

If Hammers isn't attractive enough you'r not up to it anyway.
 
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