Besiktas looking to cancel loan

[Modo]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/loris-karius-could-return-liverpool-13503357

 

[Halmeister]

Hahaha fucking hell.

 

[Brizzle]

Origi is a strange case. Are we keeping him at Melwood to train him up into more of a Klopp player or could we just not find anyone to loan him? Seems a waste leaving him not playing unless there is more of a plan by Klopp to be using him?

Maybe we were expecting Studge to be shite/injured and he is the contingency plan.

 

[Mystic]

Wait, Origi's played in three games for us this season?

 

[Modo]

Origi is a strange case. Are we keeping him at Melwood to train him up into more of a Klopp player or could we just not find anyone to loan him? Seems a waste leaving him not playing unless there is more of a plan by Klopp to be using him?

Maybe we were expecting Studge to be shite/injured and he is the contingency plan.

We'll only sell for the right price, you know like we did with Moreno who's now leaving for free. Imagine how much cash we would have if we sold both Moreno and Emre?

 

[tombrown]

Don't be so negative, the money isnt yours and it's not like the lack of a fee for them have prevented us signing the world's most expensive defender or goalkeeper. And we got a decent season out of Can last year, we wouldn't otherwise have had, and a half decent first half from Moreno

 

[dantes]

If we refuse, there is a chance he turns up for training and somebody else leaves wearing his clothes.

 

[hmmmmm1]

He will do well for a mid table team with no pressure.

 

[Raz]

He is one of the worst strikers to have ever put on that jersey.

 

[JurgenKlopp]

Marvellous

 

[Mors]

Besiktas can piss off, they bought the donkey, they keep the donkey. If we take him back, we'll be back in the Lazar/Origi position again where nobody will take them and pay the wages.
The only possible way to take him back is if Besiktas agree to pay his wages between now and the end of his contract with us (which was the end of the 2yr loan?) and we can have him back, he can 'work from home' and Besiktas can pay his wages. Can't see them being too keen on that.

 

[Red Astaire]

What the fuck!? The guy has feelings and is probably feeling a sense of loss that his career has gone down the toilet. I mean how would you feel? Even Besiktas doesn't want him (after two months!) I'll admit he has nice hair and is prone to lapses of concentration due to suspected concussion (always a plus for me) - I say give the guy a break........

 

[Holle]

I thought so too but don't anymore. That fucking LA video did the trick.

 

[Red Astaire]

I thought so too but don't anymore. That fucking LA video did the trick.

I was of course being sarcastic - I mean fuck the prima douche. He pretty much cost us number 6! He's a cunt and if he ever set foot at Melwood I'll cough up my pelvic bone in disgust.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

Wait a minute. Am I the only one who read the article wrongly ?

Why on earth are you guys worrying about Origi ? Hello ?! Karius has been rejected by the mighty leagues of Turkey, and nobody's bothered by it ?

Who's gonna buy him now ?

 

[Hansern]

Its BS

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

Someone needs to ban the person who started this fake news thread then.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Someone needs to ban the person who started this fake news thread then.

I find your request to ban Modo very offensive.
I'm going to ban you for 10 seconds.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

Only 10s ?

 

[dantes]

That's enough time for LTW to run to his safe space.

 

[Jerry Laser]

Cant we just keep him for the Nivea adverts?

I mean the fuck does Milner and Hendo get in that..... they look like 2 brothers who's parents were brother and sister and lived in a log cabin out in some Scando forest for years.

 

[Mamma Mia]

Fake news, rumours about the personal lives of footballers, thoughts and prayers for people we've never met or known.

We're becoming the cunts that we accuse the rest of the Internet of being.

 

[Woland]

 

[Insignificance]

Cant we just keep him for the Nivea adverts?

I mean the fuck does Milner and Hendo get in that..... they look like 2 brothers who's parents were brother and sister and lived in a log cabin out in some Scando forest for years.

I think you will find a lot of englishmen with a Viking heritage.

 

[doctor_mac]

I think you will find a lot of englishmen with a Viking heritage.

Like Hendo and Milner from the North and North East in particular, as it happens. The area of England formally known as the Danelaw.

 

[Insignificance]

Like Hendo and Milner from the North and North East in particular, as it happens. The area of England formally known as the Danelaw.

But I must admit I am ashamed of the states of affair over here these days. The first "snow" arrived yesterday... and this inch of white paralyzed half a nation. Fucking whimps.

 

[Markeh]

But I must admit I am ashamed of the states of affair over here these days. The first "snow" arrived yesterday... and this inch of white paralyzed half a nation. Fucking whimps.

You're not looking at the big picture, snow is a great excuse. If we start handling snow like Canada then we lose the right to complain and work from home or be late or whatever

 

[darkstarexodus]

You're not looking at the big picture, snow is a great excuse. If we start handling snow like Canada then we lose the right to complain and work from home or be late or whatever

Yep. We royally messed that one up. Wish we had continued to be a bunch of big babies about the fluffy white stuff.

 

[rurikbird]

Why do the Turkish media seem to be out to get Loris Karius?
Stories about the goalkeeper, on loan at Besiktas from Liverpool, being dropped or sent back to England are simply not true so why are they being written?

Emre Sarigul
Published: 08:27 EDT Thursday, 01 November 2018

Nearly six months on from the Champions League final and Loris Karius has been making the headlines again for all the wrong reasons.

There have been almost weekly reports claiming Besiktas will drop the goalkeeper. A few days ago there was a bizarre rumour that the club wanted to end his two-year loan deal in January and replace him with the Liverpool forward Divock Origi. At one point there was also a media-led uproar about him allegedly messaging women on Instagram. The list goes on and on.
There appears to be an almost sadistic enjoyment in trying to make Karius suffer following the Champions League final, in which he made two high-profile mistakes as Real Madrid beat Liverpool 3-1. The negative reports from the Turkish press have been picked up by some British media outlets, painting an unfair representation of Karius’s first few months in Istanbul.

Contrary to popular belief the Besiktas management are happy with Karius and are bewildered by claims they want to get rid of him. The general feeling at the club is that Karius has settled in well to life in the city. He did not have a pre-season with the team but has adapted quickly.

The German has gone out of his way to make an effort with the fans. He has not locked himself away on the outskirts of the city as high-profile players who arrive in Istanbul often do. He can often be found frequenting cafes around the Besiktas area mingling with supporters and taking photos with them.

The Besiktas head coach, Senol Gunes, was a goalkeeper in his playing days – and a very good one as well – and knows a thing or two about what qualities he wants his No 1 to have. Gunes has kept faith in Karius, starting him in all 10 games since he joined from Liverpool in August and is showing no signs of dropping the 25-year-old.

There have been a few shaky moments. Karius has looked suspect dealing with crosses and aerial balls at times. And then there was that goal he conceded against Malmö. A cross from the right took a wicked deflection off Caner Erkin resulting in an own goal. Could Karius have positioned himself better? Perhaps. But it was one of those goals that most other keepers would not be blamed for. And certainly not mocked for days on end on social and in the mainstream media.

Karius has conceded 15 goals in 10 starts for the Black-Whites but raw statistics can be misleading. Karius has been playing behind a back four that has been struggling for consistency since Pepe picked up an injury. Besiktas have conceded seven goals in three games without the former Real Madrid centre-back, while luck has not been on their side this season: there have already been three own goals.

It is also worth highlighting that Karius has made important saves to rescue his side. Besiktas are fourth in the league, only three points behind the leaders, Basaksehir, whom they play on Sunday.

So why is Karius getting such a bad press? There are multiple factors at play. The second-choice goalkeeper Tolga Zengin is a former Turkish international keeper and there are some who believe he should be starting. Then there are football politics, with certain reporters and newspapers sympathetic to the club or club officials they support.

Arguably the main reason – and most depressing reason – is that news about the Liverpool loanee sells. Turkish papers have caught on to the fact that stories criticising Karius tend to get picked up and shared in the UK. There seems to be some schadenfreude at work but the bottom line is these rumours have popular appeal.

Take a look at the stories of him supposedly being dropped and Besiktas wanting to cut his loan short. These are simply being translated from Turkish to English without any fact checking. Thankfully not all of the Turkish media are doing this. There are balanced reports and stories with a positive spin too. However, the unfavourable stories are the ones that have been picked up outside of Turkey

The Karius-Origi swap rumour was quite obviously far-fetched if not farcical. However, it ended up causing such a stir that Karius’s agent, Florian Goll, was forced to deny the rumour. “Complete nonsense,” he told SID. “I wonder where such things come from. This news is absolutely untrue. Loris is on loan to Besiktas for two years – that’s the situation. The club has no intention of ending this loan contract prematurely.”

Karius, meanwhile, seems to be relaxed about the stories and wrote on Instagram one morning this week in a since-deleted post: “Coffee first, media’s bull**** second.”

It is best to ignore the bad media coverage Karius has been getting. He has not played badly but it seems that no one is interested in reading about the goalkeeper doing quite well.

 

[dantes]

A classic turkish brawl in the istanbul derby tonight. Even Skrtel got mauled. Karius is definitely getting dissolved if and when he puts a foot wrong out there.