Benitez to replace Houllier??
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44702.msg1305763#msg1305763 date=1301136266]
I mentioned in the other thread he was fav for the Blackburn job, it's beginning to look like he'll get a job but was waiting to see (via his media campaign) if he had a hope at getting the Liverpool job.
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Seriously? You thought he actually *had* a chance of getting it?
As for him taking the Villa job, there would be pros and cons IMO. On the one hand GH unfortunately hasn't been a good fit for them (as I'm afraid I suspected all along) and Rafa would instantly tidy them up and make them harder to beat. On the other hand, don't they have a DOF? In which case appointing Rafa would turn into a car crash eventually. Blackburn would allow him (a) to live at home more easily and (b) to give Allardyce the metaphorical finger if he succeeds there.
I mentioned in the other thread he was fav for the Blackburn job, it's beginning to look like he'll get a job but was waiting to see (via his media campaign) if he had a hope at getting the Liverpool job.
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Seriously? You thought he actually *had* a chance of getting it?
As for him taking the Villa job, there would be pros and cons IMO. On the one hand GH unfortunately hasn't been a good fit for them (as I'm afraid I suspected all along) and Rafa would instantly tidy them up and make them harder to beat. On the other hand, don't they have a DOF? In which case appointing Rafa would turn into a car crash eventually. Blackburn would allow him (a) to live at home more easily and (b) to give Allardyce the metaphorical finger if he succeeds there.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44702.msg1305797#msg1305797 date=1301138700]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44702.msg1305763#msg1305763 date=1301136266]
I mentioned in the other thread he was fav for the Blackburn job, it's beginning to look like he'll get a job but was waiting to see (via his media campaign) if he had a hope at getting the Liverpool job.
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Seriously? You thought he actually *had* a chance of getting it?
As for him taking the Villa job, there would be pros and cons IMO. On the one hand GH unfortunately hasn't been a good fit for them (as I'm afraid I suspected all along) and Rafa would instantly tidy them up and make them harder to beat. On the other hand, don't they have a DOF? In which case appointing Rafa would turn into a car crash eventually. Blackburn would allow him (a) to live at home more easily and (b) to give Allardyce the metaphorical finger if he succeeds there.
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I know he has no hope, but he's a deluded fuckwit who it seems was hoping to whip up some fan frenzy like he did when he screwed us over with his 5 year contract.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44702.msg1305763#msg1305763 date=1301136266]
I mentioned in the other thread he was fav for the Blackburn job, it's beginning to look like he'll get a job but was waiting to see (via his media campaign) if he had a hope at getting the Liverpool job.
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Seriously? You thought he actually *had* a chance of getting it?
As for him taking the Villa job, there would be pros and cons IMO. On the one hand GH unfortunately hasn't been a good fit for them (as I'm afraid I suspected all along) and Rafa would instantly tidy them up and make them harder to beat. On the other hand, don't they have a DOF? In which case appointing Rafa would turn into a car crash eventually. Blackburn would allow him (a) to live at home more easily and (b) to give Allardyce the metaphorical finger if he succeeds there.
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I know he has no hope, but he's a deluded fuckwit who it seems was hoping to whip up some fan frenzy like he did when he screwed us over with his 5 year contract.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44702.msg1305801#msg1305801 date=1301138889]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44702.msg1305797#msg1305797 date=1301138700]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44702.msg1305763#msg1305763 date=1301136266]
I mentioned in the other thread he was fav for the Blackburn job, it's beginning to look like he'll get a job but was waiting to see (via his media campaign) if he had a hope at getting the Liverpool job.
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Seriously? You thought he actually *had* a chance of getting it?
As for him taking the Villa job, there would be pros and cons IMO. On the one hand GH unfortunately hasn't been a good fit for them (as I'm afraid I suspected all along) and Rafa would instantly tidy them up and make them harder to beat. On the other hand, don't they have a DOF? In which case appointing Rafa would turn into a car crash eventually. Blackburn would allow him (a) to live at home more easily and (b) to give Allardyce the metaphorical finger if he succeeds there.
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I know he has no hope, but he's a deluded fuckwit who it seems was hoping to whip up some fan frenzy like he did when he screwed us over with his 5 year contract.
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Oh give it a rest, ross...
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44702.msg1305797#msg1305797 date=1301138700]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44702.msg1305763#msg1305763 date=1301136266]
I mentioned in the other thread he was fav for the Blackburn job, it's beginning to look like he'll get a job but was waiting to see (via his media campaign) if he had a hope at getting the Liverpool job.
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Seriously? You thought he actually *had* a chance of getting it?
As for him taking the Villa job, there would be pros and cons IMO. On the one hand GH unfortunately hasn't been a good fit for them (as I'm afraid I suspected all along) and Rafa would instantly tidy them up and make them harder to beat. On the other hand, don't they have a DOF? In which case appointing Rafa would turn into a car crash eventually. Blackburn would allow him (a) to live at home more easily and (b) to give Allardyce the metaphorical finger if he succeeds there.
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I know he has no hope, but he's a deluded fuckwit who it seems was hoping to whip up some fan frenzy like he did when he screwed us over with his 5 year contract.
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Oh give it a rest, ross...
Good. The little snippets about loving to manage us in the future, while Kenny is on a short term contract turned my stomach.
I wouldn't want him back at all. It would be like going out with your ex again, knowing from the start that it's not going to work out.
That ship has sailed.
Kenny all the way imho.
I wouldn't want him back at all. It would be like going out with your ex again, knowing from the start that it's not going to work out.
That ship has sailed.
Kenny all the way imho.
He's taken care to make complimentary remarks about the King and to say there isn't a vacancy currently. As long as the King is only a caretaker (and I too want him to be made permanent a.s.a.p.) some of you are making a mountain out of a molehill over this.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44702.msg1305837#msg1305837 date=1301141212]
He's taken care to make complimentary remarks about the King and to say there isn't a vacancy currently. As long as the King is only a caretaker (and I too want him to be made permanent a.s.a.p.) some of you are making a mountain out of a molehill over this.
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He shouldn't be making any comments at all.
He's taken care to make complimentary remarks about the King and to say there isn't a vacancy currently. As long as the King is only a caretaker (and I too want him to be made permanent a.s.a.p.) some of you are making a mountain out of a molehill over this.
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He shouldn't be making any comments at all.
Agree, which is why I recognise there's at least a molehill there.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44702.msg1305837#msg1305837 date=1301141212]
He's taken care to make complimentary remarks about the King and to say there isn't a vacancy currently. As long as the King is only a caretaker (and I too want him to be made permanent a.s.a.p.) some of you are making a mountain out of a molehill over this.
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Any excuse to slaughter Rafa. But Rebel is the mental one, don't ever forget that...
He's taken care to make complimentary remarks about the King and to say there isn't a vacancy currently. As long as the King is only a caretaker (and I too want him to be made permanent a.s.a.p.) some of you are making a mountain out of a molehill over this.
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Any excuse to slaughter Rafa. But Rebel is the mental one, don't ever forget that...
I think the Chelsea job will be free in the summer. Rafa will probably hold off for that.
If he does I reckon he'll be disappointed. I don't think Abramovich would dream of appointing a manager with such a history of briefing the media against his owners. This isn't to say Rafa was always wrong to do it, but it is to say Abramovich would never take that risk.
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It must really be driving Benitez loco that a few months after he left we finally get in what so far appear to be decent owners , have a stable , calm club and a positive future . It's everything he's wanted for years and when he finally fucks off it arrives . But I've no real sympathy for him cause as far as I'm concerned he contributed to the off field insanity and games as much as the other fuckwits .
But regarding taking over at a Villa or a Blackburn , it always amazes me how fans of these clubs write off "failures" from the big clubs , be they managers or players . I mean I'm not benitez's biggest fan in the world , far from it , but even I can acknowledge his record in football and a club like aston fucking villa should be happy to have him. If they don't want him because of his stupid games then fair enough but if it's because they think he's a "failure" then they need to cop on to themselves and have a dose of realism .
But regarding taking over at a Villa or a Blackburn , it always amazes me how fans of these clubs write off "failures" from the big clubs , be they managers or players . I mean I'm not benitez's biggest fan in the world , far from it , but even I can acknowledge his record in football and a club like aston fucking villa should be happy to have him. If they don't want him because of his stupid games then fair enough but if it's because they think he's a "failure" then they need to cop on to themselves and have a dose of realism .
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[quote author=RedZeppelin link=topic=44702.msg1305930#msg1305930 date=1301153571]
It must really be driving Benitez loco that a few months after he left we finally get in what so far appear to be decent owners , have a stable , calm club and a positive future . It's everything he's wanted for years and when he finally fucks off it arrives . But I've no real sympathy for him cause as far as I'm concerned he contributed to the off field insanity and games as much as the other fuckwits .
But regarding taking over at a Villa or a Blackburn , it always amazes me how fans of these clubs write off "failures" from the big clubs , be they managers or players . I mean I'm not benitez's biggest fan in the world , far from it , but even I can acknowledge his record in football and a club like aston fucking villa should be happy to have him. If they don't want him because of his stupid games then fair enough but if it's because they think he's a "failure" then they need to cop on to themselves and have a dose of realism .
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Well said.
It must really be driving Benitez loco that a few months after he left we finally get in what so far appear to be decent owners , have a stable , calm club and a positive future . It's everything he's wanted for years and when he finally fucks off it arrives . But I've no real sympathy for him cause as far as I'm concerned he contributed to the off field insanity and games as much as the other fuckwits .
But regarding taking over at a Villa or a Blackburn , it always amazes me how fans of these clubs write off "failures" from the big clubs , be they managers or players . I mean I'm not benitez's biggest fan in the world , far from it , but even I can acknowledge his record in football and a club like aston fucking villa should be happy to have him. If they don't want him because of his stupid games then fair enough but if it's because they think he's a "failure" then they need to cop on to themselves and have a dose of realism .
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Well said.
[quote author=RedZeppelin link=topic=44702.msg1305930#msg1305930 date=1301153571]
But regarding taking over at a Villa or a Blackburn , it always amazes me how fans of these clubs write off "failures" from the big clubs , be they managers or players . I mean I'm not benitez's biggest fan in the world , far from it , but even I can acknowledge his record in football and a club like aston fucking villa should be happy to have him. If they don't want him because of his stupid games then fair enough but if it's because they think he's a "failure" then they need to cop on to themselves and have a dose of realism . [/quote]
This. If they do land Benitez, they'll be going from someone with a decent record (O'Neil) to one with a solid career record (Houllier) to one with a great career record (Benitez). All three don't play beautiful football but to think that they're too good for the last two is bordering on insanity.
Would serve them bloody right if they end up with Phil Brown.
Although I'm sure the beloved Fat Sam will be throwing his name in the ring at the first opportunity.
But regarding taking over at a Villa or a Blackburn , it always amazes me how fans of these clubs write off "failures" from the big clubs , be they managers or players . I mean I'm not benitez's biggest fan in the world , far from it , but even I can acknowledge his record in football and a club like aston fucking villa should be happy to have him. If they don't want him because of his stupid games then fair enough but if it's because they think he's a "failure" then they need to cop on to themselves and have a dose of realism . [/quote]
This. If they do land Benitez, they'll be going from someone with a decent record (O'Neil) to one with a solid career record (Houllier) to one with a great career record (Benitez). All three don't play beautiful football but to think that they're too good for the last two is bordering on insanity.
Would serve them bloody right if they end up with Phil Brown.
Although I'm sure the beloved Fat Sam will be throwing his name in the ring at the first opportunity.
I hope Kevin MacDonald gets his chance.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44702.msg1305801#msg1305801 date=1301138889]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44702.msg1305797#msg1305797 date=1301138700]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44702.msg1305763#msg1305763 date=1301136266]
I mentioned in the other thread he was fav for the Blackburn job, it's beginning to look like he'll get a job but was waiting to see (via his media campaign) if he had a hope at getting the Liverpool job.
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Seriously? You thought he actually *had* a chance of getting it?
As for him taking the Villa job, there would be pros and cons IMO. On the one hand GH unfortunately hasn't been a good fit for them (as I'm afraid I suspected all along) and Rafa would instantly tidy them up and make them harder to beat. On the other hand, don't they have a DOF? In which case appointing Rafa would turn into a car crash eventually. Blackburn would allow him (a) to live at home more easily and (b) to give Allardyce the metaphorical finger if he succeeds there.
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I know he has no hope, but he's a deluded fuckwit who it seems was hoping to whip up some fan frenzy like he did when he screwed us over with his 5 year contract.
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You're obsession with Benitez is bordering on Brendan & Lucas-like.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44702.msg1305797#msg1305797 date=1301138700]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44702.msg1305763#msg1305763 date=1301136266]
I mentioned in the other thread he was fav for the Blackburn job, it's beginning to look like he'll get a job but was waiting to see (via his media campaign) if he had a hope at getting the Liverpool job.
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Seriously? You thought he actually *had* a chance of getting it?
As for him taking the Villa job, there would be pros and cons IMO. On the one hand GH unfortunately hasn't been a good fit for them (as I'm afraid I suspected all along) and Rafa would instantly tidy them up and make them harder to beat. On the other hand, don't they have a DOF? In which case appointing Rafa would turn into a car crash eventually. Blackburn would allow him (a) to live at home more easily and (b) to give Allardyce the metaphorical finger if he succeeds there.
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I know he has no hope, but he's a deluded fuckwit who it seems was hoping to whip up some fan frenzy like he did when he screwed us over with his 5 year contract.
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You're obsession with Benitez is bordering on Brendan & Lucas-like.
Rafa is a genius - but he is unfortunately a workaholic.
He thinks too much, works so hard that he forgets the joy and beauty of football and focuses on the most insignificant of details.. which eventually drive him nuts.
i love the bloke but dont want managing us every again. Id rather not see him in management again as i dont think its good for his health. He should use the money he has received over the last year to do something he loves.
He thinks too much, works so hard that he forgets the joy and beauty of football and focuses on the most insignificant of details.. which eventually drive him nuts.
i love the bloke but dont want managing us every again. Id rather not see him in management again as i dont think its good for his health. He should use the money he has received over the last year to do something he loves.
Rafa gets a ridiculous amount of stick on here.
He got us within spitting distance of a title; yes he's also arguably one of the reasons why we fell short but he was esssentially a few unfortunate injuries away from becoming a messiah.
He's a quality tactician with a clear pulling power for talented players,he's flawed but given the season Villa have just had I think he'd be a good option for them if GH gets the boot.
Rosco, you're being silly - 'Media Campaign' What do you expect? The man has a life in Liverpool, he loves the city, you just want him to up and fuck off to Madrid? Of course the media are going to ask him about the club and of course he's going to say he'd love to come back in the future, he loves the city, club and it's fans.
I really don't understand what you want the man to say.
He got us within spitting distance of a title; yes he's also arguably one of the reasons why we fell short but he was esssentially a few unfortunate injuries away from becoming a messiah.
He's a quality tactician with a clear pulling power for talented players,he's flawed but given the season Villa have just had I think he'd be a good option for them if GH gets the boot.
Rosco, you're being silly - 'Media Campaign' What do you expect? The man has a life in Liverpool, he loves the city, you just want him to up and fuck off to Madrid? Of course the media are going to ask him about the club and of course he's going to say he'd love to come back in the future, he loves the city, club and it's fans.
I really don't understand what you want the man to say.
Benitez would improve Villa I've no doubt but I think Allardyce would be a better fit. Benitez is a level above both Villa and Alardyce imo.
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