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Back-heel penalty - OK or disrespectful?

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More fool the keeper for standing on and watching while he had time to turn and do a fairly lame backheel. It would have been all the better if he'd made the effort to save it.
 
In a testimonial/charity/exhibition game thats fine, but when you're hammering some inferior team in a friendly you deserve a kick in the balls for that. It's demeaning:

Sportsmanship expresses an aspiration or ethos that the activity will be enjoyed for its own sake, with proper consideration for fairness, ethics, respect, and a sense of fellowship with one's competitors. Being a "good sport" involves being a "good winner" as well as being a "good loser"
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I dont really like it and wouldnt want my player to do it, but is it any worse than a chip penalty, a dragback, a nutmeg in fact any in game showboating?
As i said its not for me.
 
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I dont really like it and wouldnt want my player to do it, but is it any worse than a chip penalty, a dragback, a nutmeg in fact any in game showboating?
As i said its not for me.
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I still think it's worse, and it's shit :🙂
 
The taker looks a cunt for doing it (looks clumsy and shit) and the goalie looks a cunt for standing there and letting it in.
 
i dont see what the big deal is myself, its a little bit cuntish like, but not as bad as diving and stuff like that
 
It really depends who does it and in what circumstance.


Against West brom in the league in january, at the Hawthorns when you're already winning 2-0 and its fair game.
 
If that was my player I'd twat the cunt for doing it.

If that was my keeper I'd twat the cunt for not saving it!
 
Players are always doing things like that, I remember back to when Henry tried to set up Pires from a Peno not so many years ago. Was that disrespectful?
 
Don't see the fuss myself. It's way mote risky than a regular penalty kick so I'd be pleased if I was an opposition supporter and knew the guy was going to take a shot like that.
I'd be pissed off if it was our own player, simply because of the risk.
 
I don't get the whole respect thing on the pitch. I mean the purpose of the game is to score and as long as you're following the rules why should anything you do, or attempt to do, be considered disrespectful?
Our deceptive corner that we tried in the CL with Baros and ???, should it be considered disrespectful?
Nutmegging a player?
Lobbing the goalkeeper?
Scoring from the half-way line?

The only thing that's disrespectful IMO are situation when players purposely break the rules to deceive the ref.
Diving, faking injury, scoring using your hand( maradona, messi), saving the ball or clearing it with the use of hands (Neville, Suarez), time wasting etc.
 
Taking the piss when you've severely outclassed an opponent is disrespectful. Scoring from the half way line/megging the keeper to make it 1-0 isn't disrespectful
 
Surely that Cruyff penalty can't be legal can it? its way too easy to score that way for it to never be replicated. Suarez didn't deceive the referee, he did what he had to to win in the dying embers of a game and got punished. For some unexplainable reason I am more adverse to someone using there hand to score than to stop a goal. Diving is wrong cause it cheapens the game. The penalty in question is a shit penalty, that's my only issue with it.
 
I don't think that Cruyff peno is legal either. Once he's kicked it, surely no teammate of his can touch it until either the keeper's done so or the ball's gone in the net.

As for the original clip, the keeper was so pathetic that my first reaction was it had all been fixed beforehand. You could even argue that backheeling it gave the keeper more of a chance, because the taker barely tickled it.
 
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I don't think that Cruyff peno is legal either. Once he's kicked it, surely no teammate of his can touch it until either the keeper's done so or the ball's gone in the net.

As for the original clip, the keeper was so pathetic that my first reaction was it had all been fixed beforehand. You could even argue that backheeling it gave the keeper more of a chance, because the taker barely tickled it.
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WRT cruyff pen, what happens if it comes off the post? Another player can run in and slot

No difference really
 
Yeah he tried to to that, but Henry didn't touch the ball enough before pires ran in so everyone looked silly
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=46160.msg1367496#msg1367496 date=1311149587]
I don't think that Cruyff peno is legal either. Once he's kicked it, surely no teammate of his can touch it until either the keeper's done so or the ball's gone in the net.

As for the original clip, the keeper was so pathetic that my first reaction was it had all been fixed beforehand. You could even argue that backheeling it gave the keeper more of a chance, because the taker barely tickled it.
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Nothing wrong with the Cruyff penalty JJ.

A penalty kick's defined as a "direct freekick from inside the penalty box, taken from a spot 12yds from the goal line". As with a direct freekick, the kicker cannot touch the ball again once he's kicked it except it is touched by another player.

From Wikipedia: A two-man penalty or "tap" penalty occurs when the penalty-taker, instead of shooting to score a goal, taps the ball slightly forward and to the side so that a team-mate can run on to it. The team-mate, like all other players, must be at least ten yards from the penalty spot when the ball is kicked. This strategy depends on the element of surprise, so that the team-mate can reach the ball ahead of any defenders.
 
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