Antonio'ing

[LeTallecWiz]

If what hes done works against top class goalies, and there's no foul play, can't we just do the same with vvd? Put him on the goalie and let's do anything possible to give us an advantage ...

 

[Hansern]

I was more surprised that we didnt have a player taking out Antonio after the first corner.

 

[binomial]

Putting Vvd on the goalie would put us at a disadvantage.

 

[Hyena]

Haven't teams been doing this since the beginning of football? It's hardly a groundbreaking tactic, is it?

 

[Brizzle]

What was he doing? He just stood there and his physicality intimidated Alisson who presumably isn't training under similar circumstances. There was absolutely nothing new from Antonio and his role standing near the keeper was very passive, minimal contact or pushing. Ali fucked up, twice.

 

[moron]

Haven't teams been doing this since the beginning of football? It's hardly a groundbreaking tactic, is it?

Yeah exactly, Jose Mourinho even did an ad for tv with his chelsea team...'..you must block the keeper...'

 

[moron]

What was he doing? He just stood there and his physicality intimidated Alisson who presumably isn't training under similar circumstances. There was absolutely nothing new from Antonio and his role standing near the keeper was very passive, minimal contact or pushing. Ali fucked up, twice.

This is what happened, and is the truth of it. He actually fucked up from a keeper should have saved point of view ... all 3 goals.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

What was he doing? He just stood there and his physicality intimidated Alisson who presumably isn't training under similar circumstances. There was absolutely nothing new from Antonio and his role standing near the keeper was very passive, minimal contact or pushing. Ali fucked up, twice.

So let's do the same thing to other teams ... we have physically intimidating players too -

 

[Modo]

Kuyt used to that for us.

 

[mark1975]

I think we should concentrate more on the basics of defending, seeing as it's completely deserted us.

 

[Brizzle]

So let's do the same thing to other teams ... we have physically intimidating players too -

We've 100% done it in the past, but GKs are pretty used to having players in and around them. Ali had two complete brain farts, it was the GK version of Lovren vs Troy Deeney. He got sucked into jostling with the players rather than just dealing with a regulation cross into the box.

If Ali had concentrated and executed the basics at set pieces we would have won this game.

 

[binomial]

So let's do the same thing to other teams ... we have physically intimidating players too -

So just because West Ham did it to us and were effective with it means we have to do the same to others?

 

[LeTallecWiz]

So just because West Ham did it to us and were effective with it means we have to do the same to others?

a wise man learns from everyone.

 

[binomial]

I think we should concentrate more on the basics of defending, seeing as it's completely deserted us.

How many games is it now we've concede 2 or more goals in? It's actually ridiculous.

The line between our back 4 and midfield is totally disjointed....our forwards and midfield all press high and the defence is sat deep, it's very concerning to watch at the moment.

 

[binomial]

a wise man learns from everyone.

Only if there is something there to learn from,....in this instance we need to learn how to better defend/set up from corners not implementing someone else's tactics.

 

[Bradley]

After the first goal, it would have been good to put one of our lads in front of Ali as a but of a buffer. But we didn't and it doesn't matter anymore.

 

[Mystic]

Nothing wrong with what Antonio did for their goal, I still do think it was a foul by Ogbonna on Alisson, he blocks Alissons arm with his own arm, he's clearly obstructing the keeper. If his leg kicks out at an players leg to stop him playing the ball it's a foul, simple as, goalkeepers play with their arms, why should it be any different?

 

[King Binny]

 

[Markeh]

After the first goal, it would have been good to put one of our lads in front of Ali as a but of a buffer. But we didn't and it doesn't matter anymore.

I’m 100% sure we’ve done this previously to protect Allisson from people standing on him at corners.

I have to disagree with people saying Antonio is doing nothing wrong, it’s the fact he’s making no attempt to play the ball and his entire intention is to block the keeper. Does it fall foul of this rule?

IMPEDING THE PROGRESS OF AN OPPONENT WITHOUT CONTACT

Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the opponent’s path to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.

All players have a right to their position on the field of play; being in the way of an opponent is not the same as moving into the way of an opponent.

A player may shield the ball by taking a position between an opponent and the ball if the ball is within playing distance and the opponent is not held off with the arms or body. If the ball is within playing distance, the player may be fairly charged by an opponent.