Your initial comment was as dumb, or idealistic, as they come. It deserved the reply it got.
All Kicking Off after Serbia v England under 21s now
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Your initial comment was as dumb, or idealistic, as they come. It deserved the reply it got.
Hahaha ! Amended.
Shameless: Serbian police charge two England players (but it sounds like they haven't worked out which ones yet):
Secret police: Even FA don't know who's been charged by Serbian cops
30 Oct 2012 22:31
Two England U21 players are accused of "acts of violence" after last month's brawl - but angry Wembley suits have not been told who
Kicking off: Tempers boiled over at the end of the U21 qualifier
The unidentified members of Stuart Pearce's squad are among 12 people charged with "acts of violence during a sporting event" by Serbian police in the wake of the brawl with their Serbian counterparts earlier this month.
Sunderland's on-loan Spurs winger Danny Rose, who was sent off at the end of the match after receiving racist abuse from the home fans during the Euros qualifier, is thought to be one of them.
Also believed to have been charged is Pearce's assistant head coach Steve Wigley - even though HE was kicked in the stomach in the melee and was photographed being pushed to the ground.
Surrounded: England coach Wigley tries to fend off a gaggle of Serbs
Yet, farcically, the FA only learned of the charges when they were announced early on Tuesday evening.
In response, they insisted they would vehemently defend their stars over the allegations.
The brawl happened after England's 1-0 win over the Serbs in the second leg of a European Championship qualifying play-off on October 16.
The Football Associations of both countries have been charged by UEFA over the appalling scenes.
The Serbian FA have also been charged over the alleged racist abuse.
Secret police: Even FA don't know who's been charged by Serbian cops
30 Oct 2012 22:31
Two England U21 players are accused of "acts of violence" after last month's brawl - but angry Wembley suits have not been told who
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The FA are fuming after not even being told just which two England Under-21 players have been charged over this month's race-row brawl in Serbia.The unidentified members of Stuart Pearce's squad are among 12 people charged with "acts of violence during a sporting event" by Serbian police in the wake of the brawl with their Serbian counterparts earlier this month.
Sunderland's on-loan Spurs winger Danny Rose, who was sent off at the end of the match after receiving racist abuse from the home fans during the Euros qualifier, is thought to be one of them.
Also believed to have been charged is Pearce's assistant head coach Steve Wigley - even though HE was kicked in the stomach in the melee and was photographed being pushed to the ground.
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Yet, farcically, the FA only learned of the charges when they were announced early on Tuesday evening.
In response, they insisted they would vehemently defend their stars over the allegations.
The brawl happened after England's 1-0 win over the Serbs in the second leg of a European Championship qualifying play-off on October 16.
The Football Associations of both countries have been charged by UEFA over the appalling scenes.
The Serbian FA have also been charged over the alleged racist abuse.
It has no interest when Luis isn't involved.
DO IT!
Ince & Caulker apparently the two that the police want.
I was at a talk given by a Serbian guy who had done research on blood cholesterol levels. He said that the blood cholesterol levels among Serbians was particularly high during the period of NATO aggression. So at least their blood cholesterol levels are back to normal.
The FA want justice, I wonder what this fella thinks..........
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...epeatedly-stamps-mans-head-racist-attack.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...epeatedly-stamps-mans-head-racist-attack.html
I agree. With a mother like that the children would be better off without her.
Thomas Ince and Steven Caulker have been banned over incidents that took place during England Under-21s' win over Serbia in October.
Four Serbian players have also been banned, while two of their coaches are suspended for two years.
Uefa has ordered Serbia to play their next competitive under-21 match behind closed doors, and they have also been fined £65,000.
Ince and Caulker have been suspended for one and two matches respectively.
Uefa said Serbia were punished due to the "improper conduct of its supporters during and at the end of the match, as well as for the improper conduct of the Serbia players at the end of the game".
Blackpool winger Ince, 20, will sit out the England Under-21s' Euro 2013 game against Italy in June, while Tottenham defender Caulker, 20, will also be absent from the match against Norway.
Uefa's control and disciplinary body dismissed disciplinary proceedings opened against the Football Association.
Serbia assistant coach Predrag Katic has been banned from football for two years, with the final six months suspended for a probationary period of three years.
Fitness coach Andreja Milunovic has been banned from all football-related activities for two years, with the second suspended for a probationary period of three years.
Serbia players Ognjen Mudrinski and Nikola Ninkovic have already been suspended for a year by the Serbian Football Federation and they were handed respective three and two-match bans.
Goran Causic has been suspended for four games and Filip Malbasic is banned for three matches.
Kick It Out's Troy Townsend, whose son Andros played in the game in Krusevac, thinks that the penalties against the Serbian federation were not heavy enough.
He told BBC Radio 5 live: "Steps need to be taken to make sure these things don't happen again and I'm not sure that is going to be the case.
"He was out there and it wasn't a great situation. It's not nice for anyone to be watching those pictures, players being chased around the pitch, the chanting and England management being hit.
"It's not nice and you don't know if they're going to get out of that situation.
"I feel that Serbia have got away with it and the FA needs to be accountable.
"It's great fining them and banning the players but at some stage the FA have to be held accountable and it's not the first time they've been involved in incidents and they're getting away with it again with a slap on the wrist."
Recent Uefa fines
£16,700 to Porto for their fans' racist abuse during Europa League match against Manchester City
£32,500 to Lazio following racist chanting during a Europa League game against Tottenham.
£24,735 to Manchester City for being one minute late back onto the pitch after half-time against Porto
£80,000 to Denmark striker Nicklas Bendtner for revealing a sponsor's logo on his underpants during Euro 2012
From the Beeb.
Four Serbian players have also been banned, while two of their coaches are suspended for two years.
Uefa has ordered Serbia to play their next competitive under-21 match behind closed doors, and they have also been fined £65,000.
Ince and Caulker have been suspended for one and two matches respectively.
Uefa said Serbia were punished due to the "improper conduct of its supporters during and at the end of the match, as well as for the improper conduct of the Serbia players at the end of the game".
Blackpool winger Ince, 20, will sit out the England Under-21s' Euro 2013 game against Italy in June, while Tottenham defender Caulker, 20, will also be absent from the match against Norway.
Uefa's control and disciplinary body dismissed disciplinary proceedings opened against the Football Association.
Serbia assistant coach Predrag Katic has been banned from football for two years, with the final six months suspended for a probationary period of three years.
Fitness coach Andreja Milunovic has been banned from all football-related activities for two years, with the second suspended for a probationary period of three years.
Serbia players Ognjen Mudrinski and Nikola Ninkovic have already been suspended for a year by the Serbian Football Federation and they were handed respective three and two-match bans.
Goran Causic has been suspended for four games and Filip Malbasic is banned for three matches.
Kick It Out's Troy Townsend, whose son Andros played in the game in Krusevac, thinks that the penalties against the Serbian federation were not heavy enough.
He told BBC Radio 5 live: "Steps need to be taken to make sure these things don't happen again and I'm not sure that is going to be the case.
"He was out there and it wasn't a great situation. It's not nice for anyone to be watching those pictures, players being chased around the pitch, the chanting and England management being hit.
"It's not nice and you don't know if they're going to get out of that situation.
"I feel that Serbia have got away with it and the FA needs to be accountable.
"It's great fining them and banning the players but at some stage the FA have to be held accountable and it's not the first time they've been involved in incidents and they're getting away with it again with a slap on the wrist."
Recent Uefa fines
£16,700 to Porto for their fans' racist abuse during Europa League match against Manchester City
£32,500 to Lazio following racist chanting during a Europa League game against Tottenham.
£24,735 to Manchester City for being one minute late back onto the pitch after half-time against Porto
£80,000 to Denmark striker Nicklas Bendtner for revealing a sponsor's logo on his underpants during Euro 2012
From the Beeb.
It's hard to believe, isn't it....just taking the piss.
£16,700 to Porto for their fans' racist abuse during Europa League match against Manchester City
£24,735 to Manchester City for being one minute late back onto the pitch after half-time against Porto
And therein lies the reason why UEFA are a bunch of corrupt dickheads, like the other blerts running our own governing body.
Though I'm just being paranoid, obviously.
£24,735 to Manchester City for being one minute late back onto the pitch after half-time against Porto
And therein lies the reason why UEFA are a bunch of corrupt dickheads, like the other blerts running our own governing body.
Though I'm just being paranoid, obviously.
If it wasnt so believeable it would be unbelieveable
Embarrassed UEFA appeals against its OWN sanctions on Serbia for racism in England U21 match
By RIK SHARMA
PUBLISHED: 12:12 GMT, 26 December 2012 | UPDATED: 14:03 GMT, 26 December 201
UEFA have appealed against the sanctions its control and disciplinary body imposed on Serbia following the incidents in the U21 Euro 2013 play-off match against England in Krusevac on October 16.
Michel Platini, president of the European football governing body, was embarrassed by the leniency shown towards Serbia who were only fined £65,900 for the racist behaviour of their supporters.
In addition to the fine issued on December 13, the Serbian U21 side was ordered to play their next match behind closed doors.
Four players were given suspensions between two and four games and two coaches were also banned.
Danny Rose, who was dismissed after the final whistle for kicking the ball away in anger, complained he had been subjected to monkey chants throughout the match and as he left the pitch.
Astonishingly, England players Steven Caulker and Tom Ince were also hit with suspensions by the Control and Disciplinary Body.
An official statement by UEFA read: 'As per the UEFA Disciplinary Regulations, the UEFA disciplinary inspector has the right to open disciplinary investigations and to lodge appeals against decisions taken by the Control and Disciplinary Body.
'Having reviewed the motivated decisions for the sanctions imposed in this specific case, which have also been provided to all parties, the UEFA disciplinary inspector felt it necessary to immediately confirm his intention to appeal on UEFA's behalf.'
In what could prove to be a ridiculous twist, the UEFA disciplinary inspector could appeal against UEFA's appeal.
Tuesday January 8 is the date which the inspector must appeal by, and is also the same deadline which the FA must adhere to if they are to appeal against the sanctions against the England players.
Although issuing a larger fine may well be the outcome of the appeal, a more stringent and effective punishment could be the docking of points for future qualification campaigns.
After the initial punishment was issued PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor said: ‘This is a totally inadequate fine which sends a very poor message out to the football world.
‘I intend to write to Michel Platini expressing our dissatisfaction and will be asking UEFA to exercise its powers to appeal against the wholly disproportionate punishments imposed against Serbia.
‘In addition, we will strongly support the FA in their appeal against the decision to suspend Steven Caulker and Thomas Ince.’
FA general secretary Alex Horne had condemned the sanctions, which he deemed to be too lenient given the nature of the incident.
'We are disappointed with the sanctions levied by UEFA with regards to the racist behaviour displayed towards England's players,' Horne said earlier this month.
'Let's be clear, racism is unacceptable in any form and should play no part in football.
'The scenes were deplorable and we do not believe the sanction sends a strong enough message.'
Serbia have a history of similar incidents. In 2007, when they met England at this level at the finals in Holland, Nedum Onuoha was subjected to racial abuse.
Their players also brawled with England at the final whistle, charging at England’s bench after Matt Derbyshire made it 2-0.
UEFA fined them around £16,000 at the time, but then after an appeal, doubled it.
By RIK SHARMA
PUBLISHED: 12:12 GMT, 26 December 2012 | UPDATED: 14:03 GMT, 26 December 201
UEFA have appealed against the sanctions its control and disciplinary body imposed on Serbia following the incidents in the U21 Euro 2013 play-off match against England in Krusevac on October 16.
Michel Platini, president of the European football governing body, was embarrassed by the leniency shown towards Serbia who were only fined £65,900 for the racist behaviour of their supporters.
In addition to the fine issued on December 13, the Serbian U21 side was ordered to play their next match behind closed doors.
Four players were given suspensions between two and four games and two coaches were also banned.
Danny Rose, who was dismissed after the final whistle for kicking the ball away in anger, complained he had been subjected to monkey chants throughout the match and as he left the pitch.
Astonishingly, England players Steven Caulker and Tom Ince were also hit with suspensions by the Control and Disciplinary Body.
An official statement by UEFA read: 'As per the UEFA Disciplinary Regulations, the UEFA disciplinary inspector has the right to open disciplinary investigations and to lodge appeals against decisions taken by the Control and Disciplinary Body.
'Having reviewed the motivated decisions for the sanctions imposed in this specific case, which have also been provided to all parties, the UEFA disciplinary inspector felt it necessary to immediately confirm his intention to appeal on UEFA's behalf.'
In what could prove to be a ridiculous twist, the UEFA disciplinary inspector could appeal against UEFA's appeal.
Tuesday January 8 is the date which the inspector must appeal by, and is also the same deadline which the FA must adhere to if they are to appeal against the sanctions against the England players.
Although issuing a larger fine may well be the outcome of the appeal, a more stringent and effective punishment could be the docking of points for future qualification campaigns.
After the initial punishment was issued PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor said: ‘This is a totally inadequate fine which sends a very poor message out to the football world.
‘I intend to write to Michel Platini expressing our dissatisfaction and will be asking UEFA to exercise its powers to appeal against the wholly disproportionate punishments imposed against Serbia.
‘In addition, we will strongly support the FA in their appeal against the decision to suspend Steven Caulker and Thomas Ince.’
FA general secretary Alex Horne had condemned the sanctions, which he deemed to be too lenient given the nature of the incident.
'We are disappointed with the sanctions levied by UEFA with regards to the racist behaviour displayed towards England's players,' Horne said earlier this month.
'Let's be clear, racism is unacceptable in any form and should play no part in football.
'The scenes were deplorable and we do not believe the sanction sends a strong enough message.'
Serbia have a history of similar incidents. In 2007, when they met England at this level at the finals in Holland, Nedum Onuoha was subjected to racial abuse.
Their players also brawled with England at the final whistle, charging at England’s bench after Matt Derbyshire made it 2-0.
UEFA fined them around £16,000 at the time, but then after an appeal, doubled it.
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