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A story from Saturday night...

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Ryan

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So myself and StevieM were out on Saturday night in the city.

Been a while since I caught up with the big man, so we were having a decent catch-up over a few beers when we happened to bump into some huge Scottish guy who initiated conversation with us after overhearing Stevie's bizarre accent and enquiring if he the big man was Scottish (he's not, he's just a dirty prod from Norn Iron with a fucking shit accent). Anyway, I digress.

So this guy, Ian I think his name was, introduces himself to us and say's he's here on buiness in Melbourne for a week. He works for Siemens Wind Turbines if I remember correctly. So, he's in Melb on his own, and asked if he could join in with us. No probs. We spent a while chatting about work, travelling, etc etc, and moved around a few bars.

Eventually, after requisite beers, I decided to ask him why his nose was the shape it was. This thing was fucked, like worse than Steve Bruce fucked. The bottom of it pointed towards the top of his right ear.

His reply was "Well, I didn't get it from reading the newspaper."

He carried on to explain that he was 'An Aberdeen Casual' and had got it, amongst other injuries, from years of following the mighty Aberdeen FC around Scotland, Britain & Europe and getting into all manner of scrapes.

As the story goes, he was 12 years old when his Uncle took him and his cousin to Liverpool for the return leg of a European Cup tie. They'd got a draw in the home leg (please feel free to correct me here btw) and fancied their chances at Anfield. They got humped 4-0, and on the way out of the ground a fight erupted. There was fuck all police presence and most of their supporters ended up getting the shit kicked out of them by the Liverpool element. He say's he was knocked to the ground, and didn't manage to get up for about 5 minutes, during which time he got the shit kicked out of him. Broken nose #1. He was 12 years old.

What came out of it all though was a massive respect for the Liverpool fans. He say's they were all in awe at how cool we were. Decked out in the best gear, with the best songs, the coolest support, we were, according to him "everything they wanted to be". So they started acting like us. Copied everything we did, right down to the way we walked.

They took to the streets of Scotland mimicking the Liverpool fans, fighting everywhere, and gaining the reputation around the country of being the most feared, yet respected group of 'Casuals' in the land.

He told us a million stories, the majority of which I forgot due to being pretty smashed, the most vivid of which being an away trip to Hibs (whom they absolutely hate). As per usual, a pre-arranged riot broke out after the game. They were wildly outnumbered by the Hibs fans, and were chased down some street. One of them was caught, and was lifted up onto some telegraph pole where he was tied up. Apparently, every single chasing Hibs fan that ran past that pole swung a punch at the Aberdeen lad. He was killed after receiving too many blows to the head, and was left to hang there.

From that, a bitter rivalry has ensued between the two clubs, and it's now the most heavily policed game in Scotland, after the Old Firm match. A massive upgrade in CCTV, police presence, and security has put a halt to most of their charades since. Ian claimed that, for years, rival supporters regularly met up everywhere - side streets, trains, city centres, training grounds - and knocked the shit out of each other. From which he has had his nose broken 16 times.

The latest of which came in Madrid a few years back. Aberdeen had been drawn in the same group as Atletico Madrid in the UEFA Cup group stage thing. Not willing to miss something of such significance to such a dwindling club, Ian flew in from Canada (where he was living at the time) to attend the game in Madrid along with the rest of the Aberdeen support. Upon hearing that the 'Aberdeen Casuals' were going to be in Madrid, their rival 'Spurs Casuals' deceided to fly in from London to 'meet' for no other reason than to kick the fuck out of them in a relatively unpoliced area.

The result is below, hundreds of Aberdeen fans got the shit kicked out of them by a mixture of Atletico Madrid fans, Spurs Casuals, and local police. Ian claimed he was chasing some rival fan around a corner when he got confronted by a chasing mob of hundreds. When they eventually caught up with him, he received the beating of his life. Broken ribs, bottles to the head, broken nose from boots to the face, broken fingers, I can't even remember everything he told me. He claimed it was all on youtube somewhere under 'Aberdeen Madrid riots'. I just checked it, and our man Ian is the one 1 mins 10 seconds in stumbling about in an Aberdeen shirt with bloud pissing all over his head and face.

[flash=400,400]http://www.youtube.com/v/iakuyblqKGk&hl=en&fs=1&[/flash]

So that's my story. As the night wore on, he had more and more to drink, and he became increasingly scary. Stevie had by this stage fucked off and left me with this increasingly manic Scot.

Still, a fascinating evening, and interesting to see the impact our club and support has had on the rest of the World.
 
The impact our hooligans have had on other hooligans, you mean? Call me square if you like, but I really don't see anything cool or amusing about these knobheads.
 
I was always led to believe that Rangers v Aberdeen was the most heavily policed game after the old firm? Perhaps he meant not including the old firm.
 
We beat Aberdeen 1-0 at Pittodrie, Terry McDermott scored a sublime goal. Aberdeen were a force back in those days and were supposed to give us a real challenge and yet we destroyed them 5-0 on aggregate - God we were good.

A friend of mine who supports Aberdeen (even though he was born in Glasgow!) used to get tickets for the Celtic v Aberdeen game and watch it with the Celtic fans and celebrate Aberdeen goals - he loved the agro and regularly got into fights and got kicked out - he is now one of the top surgeons in the country. Scots are mental.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34068.msg884670#msg884670 date=1244529242]
The impact our hooligans have had on other hooligans, you mean? Call me square if you like, but I really don't see anything cool or amusing about these knobheads.

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I wasn't really pushing it from any angle, just passing on the story.

I thought it made for something different than the usual summer transfer nonsense.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34068.msg884681#msg884681 date=1244531632]
I wasn't really pushing it from any angle, just passing on the story.

I thought it made for something different than the usual summer transfer nonsense.
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It sounds the same to me, a far fetched story with some of the facts wrong. ;D
 
[quote author=Dee link=topic=34068.msg884685#msg884685 date=1244532636]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34068.msg884681#msg884681 date=1244531632]
I wasn't really pushing it from any angle, just passing on the story.

I thought it made for something different than the usual summer transfer nonsense.
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It sounds the same to me, a far fetched story with some of the facts wrong. ;D
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can i blame rafa? mmmnn not sure here, moves on.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=34068.msg884720#msg884720 date=1244533975]
Wasn't that the night fergie was gonna show everyone who the "best team in Britain" was?
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Good memory, he was very bullish before the first game - not quite so bullish after we dismantled his team.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=34068.msg884670#msg884670 date=1244529242]
The impact our hooligans have had on other hooligans, you mean? Call me square if you like, but I really don't see anything cool or amusing about these knobheads.

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They wasn't hooligans, though they could handle themselves - you had to in those days. They were as much into fashion and music. It was only when the London clubs cottoned on 4 years later did that sub culture become associated with hooligans.
 
I thought Ryan was going to get killed when he suggested that Craig Gordon isn't currently the best goalkeeper in the world.
 
What a stupid cunt.

Hopefully, he gets lamped with a fucking baseball bat and wiped the fuck off the face of this earth. Scum.
 
Cheers for that Ryan. Interesting read and as you say a bit of a change from the normal transfer bollox. If anyone is interested in the history of Liverpool casuals, then have a read of 'The Liverpool Boys Are In Town' by Dave Hewitson.
 
I just followed that tip to amazon. Here is the review of that book. Looks like an interesting read. Will have to check it out.

After self publishing THE LIVERPOOL BOYS ARE IN TOWN 1978-82 almost four years ago, the book now has a publisher.
Being a social historical document of the said years, the book now has added content including Peter Hootons take on the un-documented retro-scal look, which fused the listening of prog-rock icons such as gabriels genesis, pink floyd and zappa with a large intake of pot and an attire of clothing without a logo on show.
Numerous photos have been added giving a timeline of the ever changing fashion from the early days of peter storm cagoules, slazenger jumpers and adidas samba to a period of fila/borg tennis gear and adidas trimm trab brought back from european awaydays.
The birth of terrace culture as we now know it is covered in fine detail by also taking into account the whole culture including a look at the modes of transport [transalpino, the ordinary and the special] as well as the liverpool nightlife and shops of the time.
Before this period sportswear was hardly ever worn on the streets particulary trainers. This was a period that has changed the high street totally and is now known as the last great revolution in mens clothing.
 
I think it was late 1976 when I first started noticing lads around town with what can only be described as a 'bird's' haircut, inspired by the new romantic/new wave scene, and laterly called a 'scottie road flick'. Before that it was all Bay City roller haircuts and huge flares.

I had more of a crew cut, and wore tight Lois jeans, a navy M&S crew neck jumper and a pair of Adidas shoes.
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=34068.msg884895#msg884895 date=1244545510]
Can someone explain to me the attraction in getting beaten up?
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I think its actually the attraction of beating someone up
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=34068.msg884872#msg884872 date=1244543230]
Cheers for that Ryan. Interesting read and as you say a bit of a change from the normal transfer bollox. If anyone is interested in the history of Liverpool casuals, then have a read of 'The Liverpool Boys Are In Town' by Dave Hewitson.
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A slightly poorer alternative is "The Boys from the Mersey" by Nicky Allt - part of SOS now if I remember correctly?
 
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=34068.msg884855#msg884855 date=1244542289]
I thought Ryan was going to get killed when he suggested that Craig Gordon isn't currently the best goalkeeper in the world.
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Fuck, I forgot about that.

Do you remember the bit when we were arguing about how Aberdeen, and the rest of Scotland would diminish into a massive footballing backwater if Rangers and Celtic left?

NO THAT'S RIGHT YOU WOULDN'T, DUE TO YOU RUNNING OFF THE MINUTE THE CUNT STARTED GETTING ANGRY ABOUT IT.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=34068.msg884872#msg884872 date=1244543230]
Cheers for that Ryan. Interesting read and as you say a bit of a change from the normal transfer bollox. If anyone is interested in the history of Liverpool casuals, then have a read of 'The Liverpool Boys Are In Town' by Dave Hewitson.
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Cheers Sheik, I'll have a look.

Were you about at this time? And in any way a part of it all?
 
A fella in our work was part of all this. Nice bloke, but slighty scary, despite him being only about 5'6.

Him & his mates still go the game & get pissed before & after, but not much fighting or getting arrested now, most are settled down with decent jobs, one's a bizzie, which is ironic.

Bex dad's a bluenose, he was the worst I've heard of, along with a mate of his who's now dead, some of the stories his mates have told me when he's not there (he's plays them down), are downright fucking medieval & mental.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34068.msg885395#msg885395 date=1244587858]
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=34068.msg884855#msg884855 date=1244542289]
I thought Ryan was going to get killed when he suggested that Craig Gordon isn't currently the best goalkeeper in the world.
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Fuck, I forgot about that.

Do you remember the bit when we were arguing about how Aberdeen, and the rest of Scotland would diminish into a massive footballing backwater if Rangers and Celtic left?

NO THAT'S RIGHT YOU WOULDN'T, DUE TO YOU RUNNING OFF THE MINUTE THE CUNT STARTED GETTING ANGRY ABOUT IT.
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I have vague recollections. Did I not go to the bar or something. I seem to remember still being there when I poured you into a taxi with a Souvlaki.

I can't remember.

Besides I why on earth would you start an argument with a drunken 6 ft tall Scots man who has just told you he's had his nose broken 18 times because he loves to fight about football.

I'm trying to remember the drunken "Best Current World XI". I'm sure there were some crackers in there. Did someone mention Alan Hutton or was that me trying to wind him up so as you got a kicking.

I can't remember.

The souvlaki was good.
 
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=34068.msg885466#msg885466 date=1244603190]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34068.msg885395#msg885395 date=1244587858]
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=34068.msg884855#msg884855 date=1244542289]
I thought Ryan was going to get killed when he suggested that Craig Gordon isn't currently the best goalkeeper in the world.
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Fuck, I forgot about that.

Do you remember the bit when we were arguing about how Aberdeen, and the rest of Scotland would diminish into a massive footballing backwater if Rangers and Celtic left?

NO THAT'S RIGHT YOU WOULDN'T, DUE TO YOU RUNNING OFF THE MINUTE THE CUNT STARTED GETTING ANGRY ABOUT IT.
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I have vague recollections. Did I not go to the bar or something. I seem to remember still being there when I poured you into a taxi with a Souvlaki.

I can't remember.

Besides I why on earth would you start an argument with a drunken 6 ft tall Scots man who has just told you he's had his nose broken 18 times because he loves to fight about football.

I'm trying to remember the drunken "Best Current World XI". I'm sure there were some crackers in there. Did someone mention Alan Hutton or was that me trying to wind him up so as you got a kicking.

I can't remember.

The souvlaki was good.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA Alan fucking Hutton. In the words of Celine; it's all coming back to me now.

Yeah, the World 11 was a disaster. As was his assertion that Billy Dodd was "a great striker".

He was fucking scary. Proper mental. I think you shit yourself and ran away whenever the 'Aberdeen are hanging off Rangers and Celtic's coattails' conversation came around.

Did you watch the video? It's so him.

That Souv was fucking awesome yes. Although I could probably still taste it if I did a big enough burp.
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=34068.msg884688#msg884688 date=1244532790]
[quote author=Dee link=topic=34068.msg884685#msg884685 date=1244532636]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34068.msg884681#msg884681 date=1244531632]
I wasn't really pushing it from any angle, just passing on the story.

I thought it made for something different than the usual summer transfer nonsense.
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It sounds the same to me, a far fetched story with some of the facts wrong. ;D
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can i blame rafa? mmmnn not sure here, moves on.
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Ha ha brilliant.

As for this fan, well I wouldn''t even use the term with him doesn't deserve it.

People like this shouldn't be allowed near a football ground ever.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34068.msg885468#msg885468 date=1244603441]
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=34068.msg885466#msg885466 date=1244603190]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34068.msg885395#msg885395 date=1244587858]
[quote author=StevieM link=topic=34068.msg884855#msg884855 date=1244542289]
I thought Ryan was going to get killed when he suggested that Craig Gordon isn't currently the best goalkeeper in the world.
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Fuck, I forgot about that.

Do you remember the bit when we were arguing about how Aberdeen, and the rest of Scotland would diminish into a massive footballing backwater if Rangers and Celtic left?

NO THAT'S RIGHT YOU WOULDN'T, DUE TO YOU RUNNING OFF THE MINUTE THE CUNT STARTED GETTING ANGRY ABOUT IT.
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I have vague recollections. Did I not go to the bar or something. I seem to remember still being there when I poured you into a taxi with a Souvlaki.

I can't remember.

Besides I why on earth would you start an argument with a drunken 6 ft tall Scots man who has just told you he's had his nose broken 18 times because he loves to fight about football.

I'm trying to remember the drunken "Best Current World XI". I'm sure there were some crackers in there. Did someone mention Alan Hutton or was that me trying to wind him up so as you got a kicking.

I can't remember.

The souvlaki was good.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA Alan fucking Hutton. In the words of Celine; it's all coming back to me now.

Yeah, the World 11 was a disaster. As was his assertion that Billy Dodd was "a great striker".

He was fucking scary. Proper mental. I think you shit yourself and ran away whenever the 'Aberdeen are hanging off Rangers and Celtic's coattails' conversation came around.

Did you watch the video? It's so him.

That Souv was fucking awesome yes. Although I could probably still taste it if I did a big enough burp.
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I gave up on the conversation when he started saying "Just let it go man. Let it go". He sounded like Spud from Trainspotting, but he was getting more and more like Begbie every second.

Hah!

When's your next Saturday night off?
 
He doesn't seem that scary to me based on the Youtube vids.

Or maybe cos I don't feel his presence next to me.

But I've encountered much more scarier looking guys than the guy in the vid.
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=34068.msg885778#msg885778 date=1244653187]
He doesn't seem that scary to me based on the Youtube vids.

Or maybe cos I don't feel his presence next to me.

But I've encountered much more scarier looking guys than the guy in the vid.
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During your adventures with the mafia, presumably.
 
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