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115 vs the world

I doubt we will hear anything until the spring. It will all be behind closed doors.

The Athletic in a recent podcast were implying similar i.e. expect the verdict to be announced close to May. The hearings are expected to go on till end current year. The written verdict is expected to run into hundreds of pages which will have to be checked & rechecked by teams of lawyers. It's pretty much guaranteed that the commission verdict will be appealed & the whole thing will be dragged deep into 2025 till we know anything definitive.
 
Purely Anecdotally I have to say my experience is the opposite. Depressingly I've met many City fans on my travels, but it's also that type of transient, 'football appreciator' type fan, who also "likes Arsenal and Chelsea".

City are certainly pretty big across Africa (potentially Yaya Toure connection). There were always many Scandinavians in Manchester with City shirts on when I lived there for a bit, presumably Nords after both Haalands represented them. Additionally, kids growing up worldwide today, with no connection to the UK or parental influence, will surely be far more drawn to City than United. They'll be too young to understand or give a shit about this controversy and the shine of Manchester United is wearing off. I suspect Cities' global reach is disproportionately bigger than their share of the UK fan base, hence the low numbers at parades and memes, but many of their current numbers are legitimate(ish).

Additionally numbers are just rising across the board as growth of the Premier League rises each year, swelling the numbers of all, but mostly the top clubs ever further.
 
Everyone hates us more.
I think more hate Arsenal right now.

I bumped into my former manager yesterday. He’s an old school City fan. He expects to be harshly punished which he says he doesn’t mind because he liked the Macclesfield away days. Anyway, he expects them to struggle and would rather we win the league than those Arsenal cunts.
 
Purely Anecdotally I have to say my experience is the opposite. Depressingly I've met many City fans on my travels, but it's also that type of transient, 'football appreciator' type fan, who also "likes Arsenal and Chelsea".

City are certainly pretty big across Africa (potentially Yaya Toure connection). There were always many Scandinavians in Manchester with City shirts on when I lived there for a bit, presumably Nords after both Haalands represented them. Additionally, kids growing up worldwide today, with no connection to the UK or parental influence, will surely be far more drawn to City than United. They'll be too young to understand or give a shit about this controversy and the shine of Manchester United is wearing off. I suspect Cities' global reach is disproportionately bigger than their share of the UK fan base, hence the low numbers at parades and memes, but many of their current numbers are legitimate(ish).

Additionally numbers are just rising across the board as growth of the Premier League rises each year, swelling the numbers of all, but mostly the top clubs ever further.
Nah that isn't right at all mate. If you want to talk numbers don't look at Scando fans - come on, the population of Shanghai is higher than all four of those countries combined - seriously (about 26m vs ca. 30m for the Shanghai municipality) ! USA fanbase is tiny. You don't even look at Europe or South America at all because most fans support, and spend money on, clubs in their own country.

You look at Asia, how many are buying the TV rights & genuine merchandise sales, with ⅔ of the world's population and hardly a decent league between them. And City aren't even in the race in Asia (Barca, RM, United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Juve, Bayern).
 
It really is a thing with those new fangled non legacy supporters. They support Messi FC but now the pederast producers are pushing this weird Norwegian dude on them, and incredibly, even with his face, the kids like his upbeat numbers.
 
Txiki Begiristain leaving City in the summer. Maybe he knows Guardiola is off, or maybe he doesn't want to be stuck at a relegated club.
 
Rats and sinking ship.

The spin is that he was meant to leave 5 years ago and now is the natural time for him to leave.
 
Just an observation. The PL put out new associated party rules for a vote. Per the BBC, they preceded this with an 11-page letter to City - TLDR, you lads need to STFU. Within 24 hours they’ve written to all the other clubs bitching about how the new rules are unlawful and they’re going to litigate again if they are passed.
I feel like the PL’s attitude must be shifting. It started with “they’re probably up to something but it’s good for the brand”, to “yeah, they’ve cheated but we can’t prove it”, to “we’re going to have to do something because so many other teams are pissed off”, to “we can’t really ignore this stuff in der Spiegel and football leaks”, to “they’re really doing our heads in with all this delaying shit”, to “Christ, will they ever stop whining”, to “I’m sick of these twats now, we really need to nail them”.
It’s the legal and finance equivalent of Cristiano doing those 100 step overs at Graham Stuart. Eventually, he just thought “Fuck it”, kicked him up the arse and took the booking. I thing that’s where the PL are now. Hang the consequences, nail the fuckers. And they’ve only got themselves to blame.
 
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