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Liverpool v Arsenal - Match Thread

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by FoxForceFive, Sep 28, 2020.

  1. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    Watching Mr. DT on afTV and he says we were much better but that:
    a) Mane's forearm was an elbow ... I think yellow was fair. Clearly was going to shove his chest, and it raised. Red would have been very harsh.
    b) Lacazette should have made it 2-2
    c) Jota's goal was handball. When you watch highlights, touches upper part of arm ... not fussed ... ;-)
     
  2. the count

    the count SCM's least favourite muppet Honorary Member

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    Who gives a toss what he says? And Jota's goal wasn't handball.
     
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    momoWASboss Very Well-Known Member

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    The fume disagree. They are fuming we won because of the third goal in a 3-1 win.
     
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    I'm a bit surprised by Arteta. He seems to have learned more from Moyes than Guardiola. Yes, you could say he's using tactics to suit his personnel, but his current defenders clearly aren't suited to that goal kick routine, which is always one slight mistake from a catastrophe. And he's certainly made Arsenal a really cynical team - they're like the Spain side before they got good - every dirty little trick in the book. There's a lot of expectation about what signings he makes, but he doesn't strike me as a manager who's longing to play much of a different game.
     
  6. Dreambeliever

    Dreambeliever From Doubter to Believer -Cashed out to Cashed Up Member

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    Ha the look on Keane’s face.

    miscommunication but funny.

    Curtis Jones to help us beat them again this week.
     
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    i_rushie Very Active Member

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    The only reason why Arteta is being praised is because they haven't seen an Arsenal team with some resilience for nigh on a decade. They might as well have hired Dyche, at least he got a point with the same plan Arteta had today.
     
  8. My_Blood_Bleeds_Red

    My_Blood_Bleeds_Red Well-Known Member

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    Just watched the clip only now.

    Keane got owned by Klopp. Hahaha

    In all these years, i've never seen Keane being put on his spot ever before like that.

    This is how you treat bullies. You stand up to them, yet without malice.

    It's interesting to see Klopp gradually replacing the mantle once held for so long by Ferguson. Ferguson's team used to dominate English football for almost 2 decades and nobody dared stand up to him and those who did, would normally be lulled into a treacherous trap of resolve to see who cracks first. And almost everyone defeated by his mind games would hardly recover. He was the master manipulator in that sense.

    But Klopp is entirely different. He doesn't resort to bullying, unlike others, shows utter disgust when anyone in his team behave like cnuts, instead he emphasizes on things like sportsmanship, hard work, respect & integrity - all basic qualities that you'd expect players to understand from an elementary level, which realistically, doesnt happen most times. When he wins, he's magnanimous. When he loses, he's honest in defeat and seldom complains or blames, but finds ways to improve again. These are all qualities admired during Shanks' time, and Klopp's making old school look cool again. He really is the hero of the working class, isn't he ? He epitomizes it, lives it and thats why he endears to so many people, including rival fans. He sees players as people first and not just another multi-million galactico jigsaw piece.

    Gosh, i can go on and on. He's such a breath of fresh air and even a bully like Keane grudgingly knows that.
     
  9. rurikbird

    rurikbird Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    To be fair, I’ve seen Klopp being a bad loser a couple of times. He’s only human, after all - a boss kind of human.
     
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    One thing Ive noticed when we come up against teams that try and press us is we end up in a sort of stand off, we push high up the pitch on them and they do likewise to us. Where we tip the balance in our favour is we have Alison, Trent and VvD who are all capable of hitting accurste 30 or 40 yard passes to render the press useless. I havent seen any other team that has the ability to vary their play between long and short to break out of the press. It makes it so much harder fir teams to keep running those extra yards to press us when they know we can just switch outball and go on the offensive. It will be even worse when Matip and Thiago are available.
     
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    Virgil was majestic last night.
     
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    The mixture of long and short balls we played was beautiful to watch. A bit like the old days when we could play either style depending on what the opposition did.
    And my goodness me Thiago’s going to open up so many new options for us once he’s in the team.
     
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    Hoofball innit
     
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    Jota looked like he had been in the team of a few years already. Just a perfect fit into that top 3. Chuffed for him that he got a goal in his first Premier League game for us.
     
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    Mostly true. Though yeah not always a good loser and there have been some excuses over the years :D

    I believe a lot of that has to do with his religion. I have no time for religion but it does encourage some humans to live a better, benevolent (altruistic even), life.
     
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    Loads of my mates who supports other teams were crying about Mane still being on the pitch.
    So, should he have been sent off?
     
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    And Fabinho ... and yesterday Gomez too, he had a tremendous game, even running past 1-2 players to break the press.
     
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    Nah. Looked worse than it was. It wasn't a flying elbow, it was Bellerin (?) running into his arm, as Mane tried to fend him off, more than anything.
     
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    I thought he'd have got a red if it hadn't been so early. No attempt to play the ball, had a look, elbow in the face. Lucky
     
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    I thought, from the replays, he definitely didn't look. He was more concerned with controlling the ball and as has been said, thought the FB would have attempted to dispossess him, hence the attempted fend off that went wrong.
     

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