Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by 6TimesaRed, Nov 10, 2019.
Gini only gets an 8 ? The fuck.
in real time it happened so fast that you can understand why it wasn't given but thats what var is supposed to be there for.
Favourites lose all the time...
Haha yeah I was laughing out loud when I saw that !
Interesting comments from a City fan :
It's all well and good pointing the finger at the back four but they're being badly let down by a midfield who aren't pulling their weight defensively. The personnel of a Pep defence doesn't matter if the system works well. We once destroyed Tottenham with a back four of Walker, Otamendi, Mangala and Delph. We should be able to hold our own with a back four of Walker, Stones, Fernandinho and Angelino. Laporte and Kompany are big misses but the chronic problems are coming from further up the field.
De Bruyne looks sluggish out of possession and isn't leading the press from the front well enough. Bernardo's batteries are in need of recharging. Gundogan is a great #6 but only a decent #8. David Silva and Fernandinho are the best of the lot positionally but one's injured and the other is in defence. Despite all this, it's Rodri who's the real problem - defensively he doesn't track his man and can't keep up with the speed of play, and going forward he doesn't know how to make himself available for a pass out of the defence. He's classy in possession but without the ball he's causing trouble.
As I said, it's all well and good pointing the finger at the back four but all it takes for the opposition to get at them is two passes. Stones and Fernandinho were "protected" by a fifty-yard chasm with Rodri lumbering about somewhere in the middle of it, so no wonder Wijnaldum and Fabinho had so much space to pick passes out and put vital moves together. I think we lost yesterday because of poor finishing (mainly from Aguero) but the systemic issues in the middle really didn't help matters.
It's not a massive surprise that Rodri isn't as good a defensive midfielder as Fernandinho, but I was quite surprised at how far up the pitch he was positioned at times, and he doesn't have the pace to get back quickly enough either.
I don't watch City much, admittedly, but I was also a bit surprised at how collectively sluggish they seemed; seemed to be a bit slow to press and react.
But the rule states that if the ball is deflected onto your arm by yourself, a teammate or an opponent then it isn't handball. Right?
The refs will come out and say that when they looked back at the handball the first offence was off Silva's arm, so to pull it back for that would have been to our disadvantage as we'd scored, or that TAAs one wasn't handball because of that weird deflection rule. I suspect the reality is they looked at it and thought, dunno, play on.
Who's the Motd commentator, seems to be a fan.
No idea but if you want commentary just look for Drury's clips post every match , he fucking LOVES it when we score
I'm undecided. But it was an excellent excuse to watch Fabs' screamer several more times.
I suspect, without any basis, that the VAR team experienced a tiny orgasm when THAT thunderbolt went in, and decided that under no circumstances were they going to overturn the goal of the season for a silly handball .
Yesterday, the boys were really just after the win.
There was no moment of selfishness between Salah and Mane. They were both just playing for the win, and combining much earlier, whenever they had the chance.
Lately, I've sensed they were always looking for Bobby (who will always return the ball) and not each other. And when they did pass to each other, it was either slightly delayed (where they thought about it for half a second) or it was the typical "Trezeguet pass" where you could put someone clean through on goal, but instead you pass it just wide of the box so they have to square it back to you for a tap in.
It's funny, because Salah has been trying so hard to score, and the game he just relaxes and plays what he sees, is the game he's back on the scoring sheet.
I really believe his first season was us, he scored so many goals, not only because he was a new threat, but because he was relaxed and not so focused on winning the golden boot.
Like they say in boxing, the harder you go for the KO, the less chance you have of getting it.
I really hope both Salah and Mane take yesteday's selfless performance forward and continue playing for the team. If they do, we will win the league and one of them will probably be top goalscorer. And if not, and it's Vardy or even Aguero, who gives a fuck as they'll both have PL winners medals to console them (as Aguero has had over the last 2 years).
Fine margins babyyyyyy
Trent 7 - got targeted a little
Lovren 7.5 - Surprisingly very good
Fab 9 MOTM
Hendo 7 - +1 for the assist
Mane 7.5 - Took goal well, few bits of naff passing and control in promising situations
Mo 8 - Again, took his goal well...overall game much improved over last 4-5 weeks
Bobby 7 - was very isolated, didn't see much of the play at all
DERMOT SAYS: This incident has to be an on-field decision, as Oliver has the best view.
There's an angle where the referee makes the decision, we don't need to talk about the VAR, the on-field referee makes the decision. Straight away, he says no penalty. He sees the speed of the ball and he sees it hit Alexander-Arnold on the arm. I think he's got the best view of everybody - he's an amazing athlete to keep up with play.
POLL: Should City have had a penalty?
Remember, a ball striking an arm isn't a penalty. Oliver will have communicated with the VAR that the ball came too quickly at Alexander-Arnold - once Oliver makes that call, then VAR will never ever get involved. If you asked 100 neutral football fans about the decision, you'd have a split vote. There would not be a majority. Even if the referee had come over to the pitch-side monitor, he wouldn't have reversed his decision.