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"It's complicated"? -- No it isn't, fuck off Barca - £113 Million bid rejected

Discussion in 'The Vault' started by LeTallecWiz, Jun 12, 2017.

  1. the count

    the count SCM's least favourite muppet Honorary Member

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    Pretty ace if you were a rabbit though
     
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  2. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    I think he's ahead of Eriksen - but behind the others.

    I know you're now a big Spurs fan - and watch them religiously because of Eriksen, but his rise is very much because of what's around him (Kane, Alli, two top class DMs, Son's speed and the best defense in the league) ... He only got 12 goals overall last year - and before you talk about assists ('direct involvement in goals'), Coutinho had Mane (for 15-20 games or so) & Firmino vs Kane and Alli ... and isn't the primary free kick taker either.

    Watch them for their int'l teams - both out of systems that make the most of their talents, and Coutinho has been utterly boss for Brazil game after game the last 12 months and Eriksen finally was dominating yesterday against the Poles.

    Coutinho isn't worth '100 million' or '150 million' in reality - but in today's market, being the top creative talent on a Jurgen Klopp team wanted by only one team (with bucket loads of money), it's probably 'fair'. As I said last month, I'd happily sell Coutinho for 150 and replace him with Eriksen for 100. We'd be the same team ... well, we'd have one less cunt.
     
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    Boo
     
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    gene hughes Part of the Furniture Member

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    Yes I know it's an American favorite and I wanted to give it a try but I'm afraid it's truly revolting.
     
  5. Frogfish

    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    No, they didn't fuck them. They paid the Release Clause because Neymar wanted to go to PSG. Nothing wrong with that, Barca set the amount ..... I laughed until I nearly cried when I heard the Spanish FA were trying to block it.
     
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    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    Article: "The most frantic night that we've ever witnessed." That was how sources close to Barcelona's dealings on Friday described Deadline Day evening at the club's offices. Barça's directors began Friday in a sceptical manner, aware that the European market had closed in most countries without Liverpool signing a replacement for Philippe Coutinho and, worse, without giving signs of life.

    SPORT learned first hand that the player was really disappointed and had already thrown in the towel. Around about 6pm, Barça managed to directly contact Liverpool's biggest shareholder, John Henry, who was in the United States, and from that moment there was fluid contact.

    Meanwhile, at 8pm, as this newspaper revealed, the club received a signal from Angel Di Maria's agents that Paris Saint-Germain were ready to negotiate. Barça also decided to explore this avenue. At 9pm, both operations were on the table and things became franctic. For one part, Liverpool agreed to name a price for Coutinho, although Barça didn't know what. Elsewhere, the club knew PSG were dropping their demands, but only from 100 million euros to 80 million.

    The two clubs were a long way apart, but for the first time in many weeks there was hope. The door was open. PSG all of a sudden went from 80 million to 60 million, still above the 45 million Barça had offered. The agents decided to draw up contracts.

    Di Maria was kept up to date and according to sources close to the negotiation expressed his excitement that the transfer could go through. It was at this moment that the club's executives informed Josep Maria Bartomeu by telephone that "the two operations were do-able."

    Liverpool's owner, around 10pm, finally put a price on Coutinho: 200 million. Barça believed it was a tactic from the English club to be able to tell the player that the Catalan club had not wanted to pay the price on the table and that they had broken off talks. It was at that point that the negotiation ended.


    Minutes later, PSG communicated to Barça that they would not drop from a deal worth an initial 60 million. Barça then gave up on that deal, too, and began to leak that there would be no more signings. At that point, they decided to call a press conference for Saturday to give an explanation about what had happened. Coutinho, Di Maria or both could have come. In the end neither did. But it was a frantic night.
     
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    Good God man where on earth do you get that list from !

    Pecan, Macadamia and yeah, I'll give you hazelnuts - especially when they are in a paste form (pralines) !!
     
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    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    Club said that they never put a price on Coutinho.
     
  9. gkmacca

    gkmacca SCM Addict Member

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    Like Brazilians.
     
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    Pity in this stat-mad age of football that no site appears to have yet totalled up just how many lies Barca and their mates in the Spanish media made up about LFC during the past month.
     
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    I marginally like you so I won't stick my gene voodoo doll in any important bits. Pecan pie is legendary.
     
  12. Kay Age El

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    Not going into this, fair enough you rate Coutinho more.

    Just wanna let you know that Eriksen has scored 9 goals in his last 10 Int. games for Denmark. Last night he annihilated Poland with 3 assists and a goal. In a good team but not exactly Brazil. Yet.
     
  13. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    Not just me - also Barca & PSG (and almost all Liverpool fans) ... two of the biggest clubs in the world. Not one bid or inquiry into Eriksen it seems - right?

    Not sure why you don't want to discuss/debate your claims re: goals, assists and team strength (when you use that in your int'l comparison)?
    (and I only mentioned the Mane injury - not Coutinho's and the ~1 month to recover form wise after his injury!)

    Goals/assist per game:
    Coutinho: 23 goals/assists in 36 games = 0.64
    Eriksen: 35 goals/assists in 48 games = 0.73

    It will be interesting to see where Eriksen ends up as it seems that Spurs team is going to be ripped apart in the next 1-2 years (as per the Walker/Dier 'traitor' video on Alli's now deleted twitter video) by the bigger clubs. I honestly feel he'd have been a better fit for Barca than Coutinho, who's not going to fit into the Iniesta (impending) hole or Neymar hole. Eriksen is more of an Iniesa type than Coutinho.

    Brazil was in a really bad way if you remember not so long ago ... Their return to form? You look into it ... ;)
     
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    Fabio Former mod, consistent c*** Honorary Member

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    Brazil are still going to get annihilated on the world stage. They just don't click because they haven't got a midfield. Happened 3 years ago, and I've seen nothing to expect any change
     
  15. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    I dunno mate - I hate his fucking guts, dirty player but Casemiro has been fucking quality for over a year now for Madrid.
    Pair him with Fernandino and tell them to protect the back 4 and let Neymar, Jesus, Willian and Coutinho run rio.
     
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    This is so obviously a PR piece sent out by Barca.
     
  17. Kay Age El

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    Add to the goal/assist stat that Eriksen created about twice as many chances as Coutinho last Season (key passes) and the Kane/Alli argue seems a bit vague..

    Our Brazilian got superior dribling and 1-on-1 skills compared to Eriksen but apart from that the Tin Tin look-alike is as good or better in all other areas.
     
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    Eriksen is a great player but how many of those assists where feeding Kane or DA though?

    Coutinho would pass the ball forwards to divock or firmino, who were hardly clinical. Also he was evidently playing in. A better side so I'm not sure it's a fair comparison

    Coutinho is not as consistent as Eriksen but when's on form he's twice the layer eriksen is
     
  19. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    Are you ignore the state of the two teams last year mate? You went on and on last year about how great Spurs were - best back 4 ... 2 top class DMs, Son scoring 20 goals and two of the best talents in England were linked with Manure & Madrid. Compare that to our team ... We were struggling to keep our front 3 healthy (we were top before injuries/AFCON set in) and our defense and midfield don't afford nearly as much protection, or the ball, as theirs does.

    Coutinho has become a far better goalscorer - your stats showed that ...

    Can you compare open play chances? As chances created by free kicks/corners (Eriksen is their primary guy for good reason!) shouldn't be factored in.
     
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    Fabio Former mod, consistent c*** Honorary Member

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    Nah, fernandinho isn't that good and casmeiro, whilst good, also has an excellent defence behind him at Madrid, plus Zidane knows exactly how to use him.

    He will not be afforded the same luxury by Brazil and their inability to try and not be the harlem globetrotters.
     

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