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"It's complicated"? -- No it isn't, fuck off Barca - £113 Million bid rejected

Discussion in 'The Vault' started by LeTallecWiz, Jun 12, 2017.

  1. Dreambeliever

    Dreambeliever From Doubter to Believer Member

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    It'll all be forgotten once he breaks the deadlock in a tight game.  

    Big season coming up boys.
     
  2. FoxForceFive

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    Yeah, FFP means nothing when you own a country & hundreds of multinational companies who can set up sponsorship deals to fund player purchases!
     
  3. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    Speaking to Mundo Deportivo after the match, Neymar said: “I’m very happy because he has scored a goal and at this moment he is filled with great sadness.”
     
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    Woland Part of the Furniture Member

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    It'll be that hurricane and the threat of nuclear war. Awful stuff.
     
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    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    Article: Brazil coach Tite was reluctant yesterday to enter the debate over the future of Liverpool midfielder Philippe Coutinho.

    Coutinho remains hopeful of signing for Barcelona today.

    Asked about his midfielder, Tite would only say: "Of course I've talked to Coutinho, but I know my limit and I cannot talk about one club or another, I try to be discreet and fair, so I only recommended that he try to be happy.

    "I am not a manager, and therefore I do not have to evaluate the financial conditions, my concern is on the field, which is a very different reality."
     
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    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    Article: Real Madrid's boardroom have scoffed at Barcelona's battle to land Liverpool midfield ace Philippe Coutinho, it has been revealed.

    Those inside the Real brainstrust have dubbed Coutinho 'Andre Gomes Mk II' and are convinced Barca are over-paying and over-rating the Brazilian.

    If a deal is done today, Barca will have to part with at least €150m, which has amazed Real president Florentino Perez and his directors.

    Diario Gol says Real rejected Coutinho when offered the midfielder several years ago and recall he made little impact when with Espanyol.

    They also question where Coutinho will fit in Barca's system, as he's not a natural attacker like Neymar, nor a genuine midfielder like captain Andres Iniesta.

    Florentino has confided to friends he sees Barca making the same mistakes as Joan Gaspart did with the money Real paid for Luis Figo, when the former Blaugrana president failed to put the cash raised to good use.
     
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    He can go today.

    For a world record fee.

    You would think the lad would've started to think about a game plan to atleast survive the season but no, he cries like a bitch infront of the world as if he's just scored in memory of a relative or something.

    Knuckle down and play so well that Barca have no choice but to make an offer the club cant refuse next summer.
     
  9. Rosco

    Rosco Worse than Brendan Honorary Member

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    I don't know about anyone else but i'm reading that Brazilian coaches name as 'titty'
     
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    doctor_mac My cowboy name is Garland Justice Moderator

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    It must be.
     
  11. Kay Age El

    Kay Age El Well-Known Member

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    I am in sync with the Real brainstrust, whatever that might be..
     
  12. doctor_mac

    doctor_mac My cowboy name is Garland Justice Moderator

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    I think the Real brain trust are dicks.  Coutinho is a player who is really coming into his prime and whilst the tag of the new Iniesta is a tough bill to live up to, I think he is as close as anybody out there to matching that skill-set. He used to be a bit hit and miss, but he has become more consistent, and if it were not for the injury last year, was being talked about as the potential PL player of the year. He'd fit in at Barca very well indeed.
     
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    Fabio Former mod, consistent c*** Honorary Member

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    I still doubt, regardless of injury, Coutinho would have been consistent throughout the season
     
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    Coutinho spotted leaving Melwood for international duty. [​IMG]
     
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  15. doctor_mac

    doctor_mac My cowboy name is Garland Justice Moderator

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    Well, he was showing levels of consistency we hadn't seen before. Up to his injury last season he was fantastic, and was being talked about ahead of the likes of Hazard and such like.  We'll never know if he would have maintained it, but it is normal for consistency to be something that grows as a player matures into his mid 20s.
     
  16. Judge Jules

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    I see it more as an equivalent to the word "shite" - you have shit/shite, so now there's also tit/tite.
     
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    Philippe Coutinho | All games w/o FA Cup/League Cup

    Season 16/17
    28 Apps 13 Goals 7 Assists

    Season 15/16
    35 Apps 10 Goals 7 Assists

    Season 14/15
    36 Apps 5 Goals 5 Assists

    By no means bad numbers, but if anyone talked about him being ahead of the likes of Hazard/Bruyne/Alli/Eriksen/Sanchez they must've meant form wise only, because those stats are not top drawer.

    I know football is more than stats, of course it is, but when we talk about a 25-year-old attacking midfielder with a price tag of £100M+ I'd certainly expect more direct involvement in goals. When you then add that he's got a history with injuries then I am even more inclined to believe that Barca are over-valuing him.
     
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    Depends on the standards to which you're referring when making that judgment.  Looking at Coutinho in isolation, yes they are.  Looking at a possible deal in the context of today's transfer market, no they absolutely are not.
     
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    doctor_mac My cowboy name is Garland Justice Moderator

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    But this illustrates my theory that he has grown into a consistently good player.  He was injured before Christmas but even after he came back in (March?) it took him a good few games to recapture his form (no doubt impacting upon his stats here). He also played the last handful of games in a deeper position.  Now if he had played an extra 7 or 8 games then extrapolating he could have easily had another 3 goals and a couple of assists (and given his dip in form post injury, his overall figure could have been better still if he hadn't been injured).  Anyway, it wasn't a direct comparison between Hazard and that type of player, but yes, was on his form and overall influence. He was contributing very clearly in important moments within games, like that amazing freekick that got us back into the game away to Arsenal.

    In preseason, even with the exciting Salah and the return of Mane he stood out as the genius pulling the strings. Hopefully the wee cunt comes back and performs like he is capable, because I think he can be a player that warrants that price.

    If one is to compare his stats with Iniesta by the way, he is massively more productive in terms of goals.
     
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    If you forget about the price for a bit, because that is highly volatile as the market has shown recently with £20M players of last season now being sold for £50M etc., but instead asked the Q whether Barcelona could find better alternatives in the market than Coutinho, when it comes to create/score goals, then yeah, I believe they could and that's why I was a bit baffled when rumors occurred in Spring that he could Barca's number one transfer target come Summer.

    I understood completely when they came in for Suarez, but this time around I am much more on the fence why I have also not been completely against cashing in if we could add players like Lemar/VvD etc. for the Coutinho money.
     

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