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Hengo?

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by LeTallecWiz, Jul 19, 2021.

  1. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    There's two stories floating around right now - Hendo signing an extension, or us looking to move on from him with PSG & Athletico being interested.

    I think his leadership is invaluable.  He's a rare breed as a leader.
    His style of play also is key to our attacking footy - as he covers the marauding fullbacks while also being key to our press.
    However, the big issue is he's struggling to stay on the pitch ...

    Where do you guys stand?
     
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    keniget Part of the Furniture Member

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    I'm not so sure he's the sort of player that can maintain his level - particularly as required by our team - well into his thirties. I think his body will start to catch up with him, if it hasn't started to already.

    My understanding is that his current contract runs for another two years at which point he will be 33 and we don't want a 33 year old Henderson on 150K+ a week, do we?
     
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    Fallon Very Active Member

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    If we don't have the money to buy a quality replacement, which it'd seem we don't, then he stays. There's more pressing concerns in the squad, and many less deserving of their wage.
     
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    The Nomad Well-Known Member

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    This... It wouldn't surprise me if we were trying to do some American style extension here. "Hey, you can stay beyond you are 33, but it will be on reduced wages... oh and the wage cut kicks in now".
     
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    Squiggles Very Well-Known Member

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    He absolutely stays. There's not a chance in hell we're actively looking to move him on. Whether he gets/accepts an extension is another matter, but he'll see out his deal here.
     
  6. Modo

    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    Just in case this thread needs a "fall guy"...have at it...
     
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    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    Yup...
     
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    The Nomad Well-Known Member

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    Have what at it?
     
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    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    Inside joke thing.
     
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  11. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    WAIT!  It's a joke?
     
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    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    Oh shit, it's not?
     
  13. LeTallecWiz

    LeTallecWiz Administrator Administrator

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    You're just lucky I like you - otherwise, I may actually believe you're a cunt!
     
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    Richey Well-Known Member

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    We don't tend to seem very interested in selling our less good players, so it seems rather unlikely that we would be willing to sell one of our best ones.
     
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    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    This. I’m amazed at people given this any credence whatsoever. Nuts.
     
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    Hansern SCM Addict Member

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    Probably a slow news day. He absolutely stays.
     
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    It just means Ox is here to stay till his contract runs out.
     
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    Exactly. Gini (barely any injuries) has/had more chance of maintaining his level at 33 than Hendo and we let him go.

    I think Hendo getting to 33 and us re-assessing his injury record/legs/quality then makes sense.
     
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    King Binny Part of the Furniture Honorary Member

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    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/foot...rpool-transfer-news-jordan-henderson-24568871

    Article: Now, at the age of 31, speculation and uncertainty surround Henderson’s future once more.

    The Liverpool captain is into the final two years of his contract on Merseyside a situation in which Virgil van Dijk, Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane, Alisson and Fabinho all find themselves also.

    All six are in talks with the club over new deals, as sporting director Michael Edwards seeks to both retain and maximise the value of the club’s premier talent.


    The Brazilian duo are close to signing new long-term deals, as first reported by The Athletic, while an extension for Van Dijk isn’t expected to be a problem. The club are also confident over Mane and Salah too, given that there really isn’t a market for either given the financial issues facing Real Madrid - also prioritising Kylian Mbappe - and Barcelona, and that FSG have made clear to both how important they remain.

    But Henderson, the long-serving club captain, is a different situation and, despite the esteem in which he is held, isn’t seen it appears as a major priority. Liverpool would like an extension done, but the aforementioned quintet, are taking precedence.

    And given football is very much a ‘it’s not what you’ve done yesterday, but what you can do for me tomorrow’ business, perhaps that is the correct strategy; the five men mentioned are all arguably more important in terms of what they bring on the field, while all are younger than Henderson. In terms of transfer value, all would bring in fees considerably more than the England international.

    When Henderson signed a five-year deal in 2018, he declared: “There is no other place in the world I would rather play football. I want to be here for as long as I can be.”

    Two years on, as he lifted the Premier League on the Kop and was crowned the FWA Footballer of the Year, that looked set to be the reality.

    But now he finds himself in a situation similar to Gini Wijnaldum, who walked out on the club this summer after failing to find a contract agreement, joining Paris Saint-Germain.

    Wijnaldum, 31 later this year, wanted a long-term contract that the club wouldn’t agree too. Klopp wanted a deal to be done, but ultimately the hierarchy wouldn’t budge on their stance, the player wouldn’t budge on his, and he will now play his football in the French capital.

    The interesting part of Henderson’s contract stalemate going public, is how it has been brought into the public domain.

    At the weekend, Liverpool sought to push the narrative that they want to tie down Henderson to a new deal that could indeed see him end his career at Anfield.

    Of course, the devil is in the detail.

    Because separate sources are making clear that there is an impasse, that talks aren’t progressing and even tipping PSG, Juventus and Atletico Madrid - and a reunion with Luis Suarez - as possible destinations should they break down altogether and an, at this stage still unlikely, summer sale occur.

    Henderson doesn't want to be drawn into a situation ala Wijnaldum, where talks drag on. Simply, he cannot afford to be out of contract at 33, so better to get the situation sorted now, but he also wants Liverpool to show how much he is valued.

    As with Wijnaldum, Klopp does not want his captain, who sets the standards for those around him, to depart. But then, were it solely down to the German, he wouldn’t have lost the Dutchman.

    Liverpool’s chief decision-makers, namely Edwards and FSG president Mike Gordon, are looking to refresh and revitalise a squad that hit something of a wall in 2020-21. It’s not going to be a single summer process, especially in light of the coronavirus pandemic and the vast financial implications being felt across the world, to which Liverpool certainly aren’t immune.

    But it’s clear too that, with a number of their most important players now at the peak of their careers or fast approaching, there are going to be changes in the coming transfer windows.

    Ibrahima Konate, snapped up from RB Leipzig for £35million was one part of that and while they will move on other targets, there is an increased desire to shift some of the club's fringe players.

    Eventually, of course, veteran players will need replacing and it's been notable since pre-season that Klopp has spoken at length about young players, notably Harvey Elliott, stepping up.

    What is also clear is that, had a contract been offered to Henderson that the captain and his representatives felt matched his value and was acceptable, then the situation would already be resolved.

    He would have signed and when he returns to pre-season training later this month following his post-Euro 2020 holiday, there would be no speculation or questions over his future.

    Football is a short career and the Reds talisman wants to maximise his time at the highest level before it comes to a close. However, he knows it is a ruthless business, and that there could well be a case for the club saying 'thanks for the memories'.

    It's little wonder the Liverpool captain is seeking an answer over precisely where he stands.
     
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    He was the captain that led the mutiny against their super league. He might have already sealed his fate.
     

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