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Bournemouth post-match

Discussion in 'The Football Forum' started by rurikbird, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. Frogfish

    Frogfish Gone to Redcafe Member

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    Indeed. But Keita's position (and excellent playmaking) yesterday also gave Gini the freedom to play far more aggressively in attack, something I couldn't see Hendo doing (Milner maybe). It's going to be a tough game by game selection headache. Love it.
     
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  2. Oncy

    Oncy Administrator Administrator

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    I heard yesterday on Radio 5 that Henderson has missed 8 games.
    We lost 4 and drew 2 and won 2

    Games hes played we win more often.

    Chelsea defeat - missed
    Napoli defeat - missed
    Arsenal draw - missed
    Red Star defeat - missed
    Wolves defeat - missed
    West Ham draw missed

    Hes only played in one defeat this season away at City.

    We have lost 5 games Henderson has only played in one of them

    Hes a key part of the team and I would still have him in there more often than not.
    Bournemouth away is different to United or Everton or......well almost any good team.

    He would start for me
     
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  3. Oncy

    Oncy Administrator Administrator

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    Bournemouth have lost 10 out of 13 games away from home with a goal difference of -18

    I think people need to calm it down.
     
  4. mark1975

    mark1975 Moderator Moderator

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    Yeah but obviously this goes against the narrative after a home battering of one of the weaker teams in the league. What about the last game where Fabinho and Keita both played, Henderson didn't and we were utter shite?
     
  5. Modo

    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    He played some of those
     
  6. Modo

    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    What about the City game when Fabinho came on and changed the game? It goes both ways.
     
  7. Oncy

    Oncy Administrator Administrator

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    He didnt start any of them.
    Even if you want to be childish and stick to a dogma (and I know you do)
    We have had 5 defeats all season
    He started ONE of those and came on in one other.

    I dont see the point in you making any other point in this thread.
    You asked a question.
    I answered it. Giving reason.

    Any counter argument just shows your usual bias and no one gives a fuck.

    I would start him next game.
    You wouldnt.
    Cool.
     
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  8. Modo

    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    How am I being childish, you changed the narrative. YOU said he missed the games, I just showed you that he didn't. Now you say that he didn't start. Well yes, he didn't start.

    Also, wrong again. We've lost 5 games this season. He started against City. Where was he against PSG? Oh yeah, he started that one too.
    So that's at least being present in half the games we lost. City, PSG and Napoli.
    Those he didn't play in, Wolves away League cup and Red Star away with the backups.
    Which were more important?
     
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    Mystic Part of the Furniture Member

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    It's a difficult one, the stats don't lie about Henderson, we generally do better with him in the team, however that City performance sticks in the memory. That midfield yesterday also looked superb, however it was against a Bournemouth team that's beyond poor away from home. United will be a completely different prospect, and I'm pretty sure Klopp will add physicality to his midfield to combat them, probably in the form of Henderson for Keita, and that's cool, I'd be happy with that, likewise I'd be happy if the same midfield that started yesterday, or if Milner came in for Keita, it's a good position for us to be in.

    Unless Lallana starts there again of course.
     
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  10. Oncy

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    Ok
     
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    Brizzle Well-Known Member

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    On another note. In our next 5 games we are only away twice and those are at Everton & United. This gives the players a great month of staying at Melwood & largely staying at home. I wonder if that lack of travel will have much positive effect on performances.
     
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    It helped us over Christmas
     
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    Fabio Former mod, consistent c*** Honorary Member

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    Hendo plays brilliantly next to fabinho.
    Gini plays brilliantly next to fabinho

    Hendo and Gini are average when played next to each other.

    I don't see why it's a bizarre crusade

    It's fabinho who is intrinsic to how we play.
     
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    A DM. Shocker
     
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    I know it does, that's why I said it, seeing as you keep citing one game against the best team in the league as evidence that Henderson shouldn't start, even though we've done terrifically with him and the results without him aren't that great. I don't really give a fuck who starts, I just want us to do well and win, you're the one hung up on stupid pet-hate player versus favourite player agendas. So yeah, practice what you fucking preach, "it works both ways", are you like 12 years old or something?
     
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    No, I actually identify myself as a 14 year old. So, stop with these micro aggressions
     
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    One game, so grain of salt, but...

    He looked like a player who is finally figuring out the pace and physicality of the Premier League. He seemed to know when he did and did not have time.

    I have always thought the German game to closest to the English game in these terms and remember that Klopp was also surprised by the difference in intensity, so perhaps this a shaped his patience with Keita.

    And, yes, playing further back helped him a lot and maybe Klopp has seen that this would benefit his confidence and development.

    Will be many ups and downs, but he seems a confidence player, not unlike Mane, so hopefully this was just the dose he needed to push on.
     
  19. manwithnoname

    manwithnoname Bravo old man. Bravo. Member

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    That's not going to work in court
     
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    Modo A contentious scando Member

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    I blame the liberal media
     

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